View Full Version : SECUREBUXX ARE NOT SO SECURE! IT'S BAD ENOUGH TO GET SLOW PAID BY A BOOK.
outandup
08-05-2003, 12:26 PM
This is the first bankwire request I've made from Securebuxx. I requested the bankwire 7-31-03 and was assured I'd receive the funds by 8-4-03.
I've called 9 times in the last 2 days and no one can tell me when the bankwire will even go out. I emailed twice today and did not receive a response.
Slash
08-05-2003, 12:34 PM
How the hell is this company operating? Anyone care to explain to me? I thought they were similar to Neteller, but it seems I was very wrong.
outandup
08-05-2003, 01:13 PM
From my dealings with them they have no one in charge. They are very vague when you call CS and ask about your money.
Seems they really don't care at this point, makes me wonder if they are going out of business.
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 01:23 PM
Out, have you tried asking the book to help at all?
From what i understand, they pretty much pushed you into this Securebuxx bullshit to begin with.
What a disgrace. I hope this shit gets resolved before this gets really damn messy. http://therxforum.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
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Fishhead
08-05-2003, 01:28 PM
AS LONG AS WE ALL HAVE NETELLER TO WORK WITH..........FORGET SECUREBUXX FOR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS A NO-BRAINER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 01:38 PM
strut, it isn't that simple in this case.
outandup
08-05-2003, 01:44 PM
could not pay by Neteller or Western Union or any other way. So I took my chances with Securebuxx.
outandup
08-05-2003, 01:47 PM
I'm really not sure the book is in position to help as they barely helped to begin with.
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 01:48 PM
out
Check your email
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 01:49 PM
Not sure, but, i know a few others were having similar problems, and the main guy from the book was able to help them. I am trying to get ahold of him now.
outandup
08-05-2003, 01:52 PM
Thanks
outandup
08-05-2003, 02:35 PM
and it's more of the same. He has no clue as to when I'll get my money. And there's no supervisor available to speak to.
I'm truly amazed that no one is in charge of this company.
Slash
08-05-2003, 02:39 PM
I was looking forward to Securebuxx being made available to customers outside the US and Canada. I guess I'll pass now.
jjgold
08-05-2003, 02:42 PM
I think securebuux's days are numbered
lakerfan
08-05-2003, 02:45 PM
If you aren't getting results demand to speak to Anthony or a manager. I am in the same boat as you in regard to why I am at Securebuxx, but from what I have been told, he can get you answers.
outandup
08-05-2003, 02:51 PM
I've asked for Anthony the last 7 times I've called and David says Anthony is not in the office. I ask for a supervisor and David says he's handling things. I ask David when I'll get my money and he has no clue. I emailed securebuxx twice and still no response. The person I can get is this kid David and he repeats the same thing everytime.
Are you also waiting to be paid by SBXX?
theswami
08-05-2003, 03:03 PM
outandup-
Is the money in your securebuxx account?
If you have the money in your account and David says that he's running the place while Anthony is out, why can't he answer when the money will be sent?
What is his reason for not sending the money? What is his response? If some guy is telling me he's running the show, he's going to give me some answers (even if they are bs and lies).
If this issue is even remotely related to the issues dating back to Friday/Saturday with securebuxx and a book that shall remain nameless then it would be nice for someone from this site to step in here and help this guy. If related, it would seem to me that the book and securebuxx are up to no good and slow paying like a mothereffer.
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 03:04 PM
This is disgusting http://therxforum.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
I wonder how many others are having this problem, and either don't post, or just haven't posted about it yet.
lakerfan
08-05-2003, 03:08 PM
That is really poor outandup. But I am not too surprised. I tried to set up and fund an account twice before w/ Securebuxx and both times CS was so poor it never happen.
I put in a bank wire withdrawal request today with them, but I am in no hurry.
I am with the others, if David says he is the man then he should be able to tell you when the wire was sent. If he is just saying he doesn't know when it will get to you, I could buy that for a couple days. But he should provide you details of when it was sent.
theswami
08-05-2003, 03:14 PM
By the way, what book is it? Why can't they pay any other way except securebuxx especially if they mention other withdrawal methods on their website?
If they stated previously that the ONLY method of withdrawal method is securebuxx then fine but if this is a recent occurence then posters should know what the eff is going on there.
outandup
08-05-2003, 03:26 PM
I just received an email saying they declined my request for a bankwire due to incorrect information, TOTAL BULLSHIT. I called in and spoke to Vince this time and I asked what do you mean by incorrect info. Vince says Anthony rejected my payout because I did not list my banks address. Then I asked for Anthony and Vince said he's gone for the day, I said oh really David told me all day Anthony was out of the office. Seems they're playing games here.
Anyway I went to the SBXX site again and notice that you have to fill in all the fields or it will not let you go to the next page when requesting a bankwire. Then I really noticed something fishy, even though I filled in the address it did not make it to the next page. I wonder how many have been declined due to this. Besides they don't have to have a bank address.
theswami
08-05-2003, 03:36 PM
Follow their rules to the letter if you want to get paid otherwise you give them a reason to delay payment for at least another half-day.
Gringo in CR
08-05-2003, 03:37 PM
Looks like the run on the bank, broke the bank.
outandup
08-05-2003, 03:38 PM
process a bankwire and you'll see that when you enter all the info requested and go to the next page the bank address does not copy over to the next page. Also the first page will not allow you to continue to go to the next page until all fields are answered. This is a fukin joke.
ballsofblue
08-05-2003, 03:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PariAction Office:
What a joke!
You might remember when SecureBuxx had a run on their bank and paid EVERY SINGLE player and book within a day and still had more than ample cash flow....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
guess they don't want to chime in
ballsofblue
08-05-2003, 03:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PariAction Office:
We keep a VERY HEALTHY balance with securebuxx and most other reputable books do as well. They process for some of the largest CR and Australian books.
We have players that bet more on one game than the total liability at MB, so it defiantely a joke to think that MB could have ANY affect on SecureBuxx...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
maybe it has nothing to do with MB. they just suck
outandup
08-05-2003, 03:49 PM
I have jumped thru their hoops again and resubmitted the bank info again.
Keep in mind I requested the funds last Thursday and I called and spoke to a young lady and asked her to review the request and make sure they had everything they needed, she said everything was fine and I'd receive the money by Monday. Now the funds are rejected 6 days later after I post here.
Scoob
08-05-2003, 03:52 PM
out - i was in a similar position as you. the only advise i would give you is to just transfer your funds from securebuxx to another book that will let you w/d through neteller. there arent too many but the one i chose was 5dimes.
lakerfan
08-05-2003, 03:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Anyway I went to the SBXX site again and notice that you have to fill in all the fields or it will not let you go to the next page when requesting a bankwire. Then I really noticed something fishy, even though I filled in the address it did not make it to the next page. I wonder how many have been declined due to this. Besides they don't have to have a bank address.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I can confirm this from my experience. I entered the banks address and when I got to the final screen they replaced the address with wording like "unknown" or something like that.
I then filled in the address in again and submitted it. So if it doesn't show up they can't blame me, there application replaced it with crap.
So outandup, I have no doubt you filled in the address, but looks like this form/db likes to remove it for some reason.
Anyone else scared that if/when Neteller gets out of the business that will leave us with this level of service or WORSE?
Scoob
08-05-2003, 03:59 PM
Lakerfan - If neteller gets out of this business and there isnt a comparable option I wouldnt play offshore anymore. There is no way very many people would put up with the type of customer service that securebuxx provides.
PS - thanks for the support today at mw.
PariAction Office
08-05-2003, 03:59 PM
The customer service there is often terrible as they rely too heavily on Anthony to approve everything. There is not much you can do until tomorrow. I also tried calling today and was told he is not in town.
TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE service...
outandup
08-05-2003, 04:04 PM
How long did it take for SBXX to transfer the funds to 5dimes?
skirmish
08-05-2003, 04:05 PM
Don't hold your breath waiting to get paid by these guys it might never happen .
Others have been waiting for weeks to get paid , and this latest rush on the bank has to have taken its toll .
outandup
08-05-2003, 04:13 PM
I'm beginning to wonder.
jjgold
08-05-2003, 04:15 PM
This place is finished
Bank wires and western union only boys or offshore credit cards
Tu Li Ming
08-05-2003, 04:41 PM
Minnow from MW said it is a customer service problem.
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 05:23 PM
out
Check your email
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 05:55 PM
bump
outandup
08-05-2003, 06:00 PM
I emailed you. Securebuxx has emailed me and now says I'm approved to receive the bankwire.
TTinCO
08-05-2003, 06:10 PM
Good to hear Out.....someone must have found Anthony-he's the key to resolving anything at Sbuxx.
He's been top notch in all my dealings with them, but he apparently can't do everything all the time.
Don't forget the Paypal days-they flat out had NO customer service.
Uncle Butternutts
08-05-2003, 06:14 PM
Cool, guess we will see soon enough. http://www.therx.com/forum/grem/1036316054.gif
Scoob
08-05-2003, 07:00 PM
Out - It took less than 30 minutes to get the funds from sbxx to 5dimes.
Lou Diamond
08-05-2003, 08:47 PM
FWIW,
"Minnow from MW said it is a customer service problem."
Minnow is a Fluffer and say what she is told.
TTinco Is just a kiss-ass.
Devil and Anthony of SBuxx are lying thry their teeth, and fools like Minnow and TT try to spin for them.
Back to you guys getting scammed again.
Out,
If you don't get your money, I'd strongly advise you to take Scoob's advice. I've never dealt with a more dishonest group of peple than Anthony and his staff. I remember when i had tried to contact Anthony, at 9:30 AM, they would tell me he wasn't in yet, at 10:30 AM, they would tell me he's in a meeting, at 11:30 Am, they would tell me he's out to lunch. By 1:00 Pm he'd be gone for the day. This went on for weeks until i finally gave up.
betmonkey
08-05-2003, 09:10 PM
Transfer it to CARIB...you can then withdraw it into a Neteller or Prepaidatm account and go from there. They offer no deposit bonus and I'm pretty sure they don't require your money to stay there for a certain amount of time.
GL
outandup
08-06-2003, 05:45 AM
week now and was told I'd be paid by Monday and then yesterday is when they got around to declining my bankwire because of the bank address missing, which is a BS excuse. Now they say I'll be paid, when is the question? So I'll see what happens today.
Mjulian
08-06-2003, 06:34 AM
http://www.talentondisplay.com/1aca23.jpg
Hey Lou, cut your damn hair you freak. And why are you dissing Anthony? It looks like you guys are good buds here.
gambler1
08-06-2003, 06:50 AM
i've heard mw ownes part of securebuxx and anthony likes to gamble some, didn't some books pull out of Securebuxx about 6 months ago?
skirmish
08-06-2003, 07:17 AM
Gambler1:
Funny you should say that , nothing mentioned about the SECUREBUXX issues "across the street" interesting ?.
Across the street this issue is being avoided like the plague .
TTinCO
08-06-2003, 07:29 AM
"i've heard mw ownes part of securebuxx"
100% flat out wrong......
jjgold
08-06-2003, 08:08 AM
securebuxx is extremley high risk now and yes mw covers for them. They probably have a silent hush money agreement that when they steal everyone's money they will divide it up
sad but true
lakerfan
08-06-2003, 08:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Gambler1:
Funny you should say that , nothing mentioned about the SECUREBUXX issues "across the street" interesting ?.
Across the street this issue is being avoided like the plague .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No one might be mentioning it at the moment, but The Major rips Securebuxx all the time. Every couple month he makes some huge post about how they are the worst company and the CS is non-existent.
jjgold
08-06-2003, 08:24 AM
Major ripping securebuxx is staged boys. They are in bed together and they make it look like there fighting, pretty clever I must say.
skirmish
08-06-2003, 08:37 AM
Question :
Did anyone actually receive any CASH from SECUREBUXX yet , or is this all still paper and promises .
FatFrank
08-06-2003, 08:54 AM
A post about this 'problem' w/Securebuxx was indeed posted in the mess hall at MW but was edited and moved to the canteen.
skirmish
08-06-2003, 08:55 AM
Frank :
Now why would that be ?
FatFrank
08-06-2003, 09:00 AM
>Now why would that be ?
I have the foggiest... http://therx.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
But is strange! Last week when the slow-pay deal with Devil was going on, I pushed the issue foward on MW with a post and included a link to TheRx!! Never was edited or moved.
Joey C
08-06-2003, 09:56 AM
My sources tell me to avoid SecureBuxx at ALL COSTS.
Major Cash Flow issues.
skirmish
08-06-2003, 10:01 AM
JC:
Are SECUREBUXX busted out ? , we all ready know of some very SLOWWWWWWWWW pay .
Are they done JC ?.
jjgold
08-06-2003, 10:03 AM
MY PEOPLE HAVE SENT ME FAXES SAYING BE VERY VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS PLACE AND KEEP NO MORE THAN $300 IN THE ACCOUNT.
Scoob
08-06-2003, 10:03 AM
I was warned by someone "in the know" to get my funds out of securebuxx asap. I would advise others to do the same.
TTinCO
08-06-2003, 10:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jjgold:
Major ripping securebuxx is staged boys. They are in bed together and they make it look like there fighting, pretty clever I must say.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You are absolutely out of your mind....
jjgold
08-06-2003, 10:34 AM
In bed together already setting up swiss accounts as we speak
Pull out of securebuxx now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FatFrank
08-06-2003, 10:34 AM
>I was warned by someone "in the know" to
>get my funds out of securebuxx asap
http://therxforum.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
skirmish
08-06-2003, 10:44 AM
Frank:
Your post across the street so far did not get moved .
Do you not think that they can dare not move this as it would be admittance as to what JJ is stating .
I believe that there could be collusion between MB, MW and IN-SECUREBUXX but Tin states this is not so .
jjgold
08-06-2003, 10:47 AM
Big scandal over at mw with securebuxx
protecting a dead horse
pull out!!!!
KimBojea
08-06-2003, 11:16 AM
....................
Freddie The Man
08-06-2003, 11:21 AM
TTinCO,
If you are so sure that MW and securebuxx arn't partners in some way you must know the truth about whats going on with all this mess. Maybe since you are so knowledgeable about securebuxx and the Major, you can tell us all the truth. I think we all deserve to hear it.
skirmish
08-06-2003, 11:23 AM
Ttinco :
Could you let us all in on the secret info you have please .
outandup
08-06-2003, 11:40 AM
asked for Anthony 10 times and he hasn't been in the office. David is back in the office today and he has no clue when I'll get paid. I asked since you don't have a clue put someone on the phone who does and then David claims he does have a clue and I ask him when I'll get paid and he says he doesn't know. David claims there is no truth that SBXX is ready to fold.
I'd like to see if someone called SBXX and was trying to send funds in, if they could get someone in charge to assist with sending in the funds. Maybe a supervisor would appear.
jjgold
08-06-2003, 11:48 AM
TICO IS A FRAUD AN KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE OFFSHORE WORLD, THROW HIM A FEW DIMES LIKE MW DOES AND HE HAS A MEMORY LAPSE.
skirmish
08-06-2003, 11:51 AM
Outandup:
Open invitation by the Major across the street for you .
Pickles
08-06-2003, 11:54 AM
Lakerfan said-
No one might be mentioning it at the moment, but The Major rips Securebuxx all the time. Every couple month he makes some huge post about how they are the worst company and the CS is non-existent.
......
I could never get those-Major said he doesnt bet
and also said it has nothing to do with securebuxx ad bills,so...??? what is it- are some books paying him their ad bills thru securebuxx?
jjgold
08-06-2003, 11:55 AM
WHEN MW RIPS THEM IT IS AN ACT. THEY ARE LAUGHING TO EACH OTHER WHEN THOSE THREADS COME UP AND ARE ON THE PHONE TOGETHER.
Scoob
08-06-2003, 12:03 PM
Let me clarify what i was saying above and what I have learned since. Somebody told me to get my funds out of securebuxx asap. I thought he was implying that he had some knowledge that they were not safe. He has since informed me that is not the case but rather he meant that since I was not happy with the service I rec'd there I should get my money out and move on. I have no knowledge of any financial problems at securebuxx. I was paid there and do not know of anyone who wasnt. I do know that their customer service is lacking and because of that I will not use them in the future.
Uncle Butternutts
08-06-2003, 12:09 PM
outandup
Check your email
outandup
08-06-2003, 12:53 PM
I think Anthony may have actually sent the money now. I realize he's over at MW saying everyone has been paid. The FACT of the matter is the funds are not in my bank account. Technically he probably has sent them now, look what it took. So maybe the check is in the mail. As far as the open invitation over there I posted my problem 27 hours ago as fromtherx and I did not get one response from an owner nor a moderator. So I thought they had no interest in helping me.
jjgold
08-06-2003, 01:12 PM
Why is getting chump change a hassle with this place?????
They have no money!!!!!!1
Western Union boys
or bank wires
forget the rest
skirmish
08-06-2003, 01:18 PM
Out :
Did you get any assistance from The Major on this issue 27 hours ago .
If not :
Would this not make you think that they could all be in this plot together , and now it has become an issue they want it gone hence the sudden posts by Anthony to quell the fire.
The important issue here is that you get paid .
jjgold
08-06-2003, 01:23 PM
SECUREBUXX IS BETTING MONEY WITH YOUR FUNDS!!!!!!
THEY ARE GAMBLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jjgold
08-06-2003, 01:24 PM
DONT TRUST MW AS FAR AS YOU COULD THROW THEM
THEY ARE IN THIS GAME TOGETHER
PULL OUT
skirmish
08-06-2003, 02:25 PM
JJ :
GUESS WHAT MAJOR NEVER KNEW !!!!!!!
The Major
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6214
Joined: Jun 2000
Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:08 PM
Fat Frank , right you are.
This is amazing.
True to form...... Securebuxx drops another bomb and doesnt let anyone know.
YEH RIGHT .
PariAction Office
08-06-2003, 02:27 PM
understandably, they kept it as a guarded secret...
jjgold
08-06-2003, 02:28 PM
SKIRMY I AM ON THE TARGET WAY MORE THAN I AM WRONG AND CAN READ PEOPLE LIKE BOOKS, I CALLED THIS TO A TEE!!!!!!!!!
SURE MY DELIVER GETS A LITTLE HARSH AT TIMES BUT I AM A TRUE WATCHDOG!!!!!!!
FOLLOW ME KID ANF YOU WILL BE FINE
jjgold
08-06-2003, 02:28 PM
MAJOR KNEW ALL OF THIS STUFF, WE CAUGHT HIM AGAIN IN LIES!!!!!!
YES , YES YES!!!!!
WE AT THE RX WIN AGAIN!!!!!
outandup
08-07-2003, 07:22 AM
DAY 8 OF THE DELAY PAY SHORTLY.
Joey C
08-07-2003, 07:36 AM
Looks like MW backed the wrong horse in this race.
Securebuxx is not secure and they don't have the buxx.
Set up accounts with bonus $$ trying to middle with the bonus $$
MW knows all this
jjgold
08-07-2003, 08:47 AM
mw backs losers and they are on the "take" with tons of stuff.
skirmish
08-07-2003, 09:32 AM
JC :
MW makes out like he knows nothing about any of this , can you believe that .
Joey C
08-07-2003, 09:51 AM
Skirmish:
MW knows the real deal here. Next excuse SBuxx will make is "pending legislation" etc etc
outandup
08-07-2003, 09:56 AM
JC,
BINGO.
outandup
08-07-2003, 09:57 AM
The gloves are about to come off, I could be wrong though. That's why I'm holding off.
skirmish
08-07-2003, 10:03 AM
JC:
So what do you see here , slow pay or NO pay .
I would go for the second option what about you .
Do you know if MW and Securebuxx are partners .
jjgold
08-07-2003, 10:04 AM
mw recieves hidden kickbacks from securebuxx and they actually have a name for it
operation mint
Joey C
08-07-2003, 11:54 AM
Hopefully, payout checks by SBuxx won't bounce.
Time, not me, will tell.
I wonder if any MW advertisers will pull ads if they get stuck by SB??
Uncle Butternutts
08-07-2003, 11:59 AM
outandup
Have you tried just having the funds sent back to the book?
outandup
08-07-2003, 12:22 PM
I can't get an answer. I asked Anthony that question across the street and no response in a couple of hours. I emailed Anthony and asked that question and he responsed at first and asked my name on the account and after I gave it nothing.
This may get ugly.
Pickles
08-07-2003, 12:30 PM
Well I think the leverage is gone- he could care less about your so called balance
Are we talking 2k from what I remember?
For 2k and all the agravation youve caused it wouldve been worth it-
Now I dont know
YMFO
outandup
08-07-2003, 12:35 PM
Pickles,
It's a bit more $'s. This is nothing, I'm still kindly asking when I'll get paid.
skirmish
08-07-2003, 12:40 PM
The writings on the wall will this turn from SLOW to NO pay .
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