Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle

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WASHINGTON — The police officer who fatally shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., two months ago has told investigators that he was pinned in his vehicle and in fear for his life as he struggled over his gun with Mr. Brown, according to government officials briefed on the federal civil rights investigation into the matter.

The officer, Darren Wilson, has told the authorities that during the scuffle, Mr. Brown reached for the gun. It was fired twice in the car, according to forensics tests performed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The first bullet struck Mr. Brown in the arm; the second bullet missed.

The forensics tests showed Mr. Brown’s blood on the gun, as well as on the interior door panel and on Officer Wilson’s uniform. Officer Wilson told the authorities that Mr. Brown had punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck.

This is the first public account of Officer Wilson’s testimony to investigators, but it does not explain why, after he emerged from his vehicle, he fired at Mr. Brown multiple times. It contradicts some witness accounts, and it will not calm those who have been demanding to know why an unarmed man was shot a total of six times. Mr. Brown’s death continues to fuel anger and sometimes-violent protests.

In September, Officer Wilson appeared for four hours before a St. Louis County grand jury, which was convened to determine whether there is probable cause that he committed a crime. Legal experts have said that his decision to testify was surprising, given that it was not required by law. But the struggle in the car may prove to be a more influential piece of information for the grand jury, one that speaks to Officer Wilson’s state of mind, his feeling of vulnerability and his sense of heightened alert when he killed Mr. Brown.

Police officers typically have wide latitude to use lethal force if they reasonably believe that they are in imminent danger.

The officials said that while the federal investigation was continuing, the evidence so far did not support civil rights charges against Officer Wilson. To press charges, the Justice Department would need to clear a high bar, proving that Officer Wilson willfully violated Mr. Brown’s civil rights when he shot him.

The account of Officer Wilson’s version of events did not come from the Ferguson Police Department or from officials whose activities are being investigated as part of the civil rights inquiry.

In the many accounts of Mr. Brown’s death, the most potent imagery has come from his final moments, when he and Officer Wilson faced each other on Canfield Drive. Some witnesses have said that he appeared to be surrendering with his hands in the air as he was hit with the fatal gunshots. Others have said that Mr. Brown was moving toward Officer Wilson when he was killed.

Few witnesses had perfect vantage points for the fight in the car, which occurred just after noon on Aug. 9. Mr. Brown was walking down the middle of the street with a friend, Dorian Johnson, when Officer Wilson stopped his S.U.V., a Chevy Tahoe, to order them to the sidewalk.

Within seconds, the encounter turned into a physical struggle, as the officer and Mr. Brown became entangled through the open driver’s-side window.

One witness, Piaget Crenshaw, said later that while she could not see clearly, it appeared Mr. Brown was “trying to flee.” Another witness, Tiffany Mitchell, said that she had watched with alarm from a close distance and that as the two briefly struggled, “Michael was pulling off and the cop was trying to pull him in.”

Michael T. Brady, who lives nearby, said that the altercation was “something strange,” but that he could not tell exactly what was happening. “I can’t say whether he was punching the officer or whatever,” Mr. Brady said. “But something was going on in that window, and it didn’t look right.”

However, Mr. Johnson’s description of the scuffle is detailed and specific, and directly contradicts what Officer Wilson has told the authorities.

Mr. Johnson has said that Officer Wilson was the aggressor, backing up his vehicle and opening the door, which hit Mr. Johnson and Mr. Brown and then bounced back.

“He just reached his arm out the window and grabbed my friend around his neck, and he was trying to choke my friend,” Mr. Johnson told reporters after the shooting. “He was trying to get away, and the officer then reached out and grabbed his arm to pull him inside the car.”

Officer Wilson then drew his weapon, Mr. Johnson said, and threatened to shoot.

“In the same moment, the first shot went off,” he said. “We looked at him. He was shot. There was blood coming from him. And we took off running.”

Never, Mr. Johnson said, did Mr. Brown reach for the officer’s weapon.

The officials briefed on the case said the forensic evidence gathered in the car lent credence to Officer Wilson’s version of events. According to his account, he was trying to leave his vehicle when Mr. Brown pushed him back in. Once inside the S.U.V., the two began to fight, Officer Wilson told investigators, and he removed his gun from the holster on his right hip.

Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department has said in interviews that Officer Wilson was “pushed back into the car” by Mr. Brown and “physically assaulted.” The department is conducting the local investigation into Mr. Brown’s death.

Spokesmen for the F.B.I. and the Justice Department declined to comment.

In an interview, Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for the Brown family, dismissed Officer Wilson’s account of what happened in the S.U.V. that day.

“What the police say is not to be taken as gospel,” Mr. Crump said, adding that Officer Wilson should be indicted by the grand jury and his case sent to trial. “He can say what he wants to say in front of a jury. They can listen to all the evidence and the people can have it transparent so they know that the system works for everybody.”

He added: “The officer’s going to say whatever he’s going to say to justify killing an unarmed kid. Right now, they have this secret proceeding where nobody knows what’s happening and nobody knows what’s going on. No matter what happened in the car, Michael Brown ran away from him.”

The grand jury has been meeting in Clayton, Mo., since Aug. 20. Robert P. McCulloch, the St. Louis County prosecutor, has said that he expects a decision on probable cause by mid-November.
 

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I think it's pretty well established that the thug attacked him - probably did attempt to get his gun - got shot in the process - fled - and the cop had lost his temper and put the bad dog down - I don't blame him but its still a crime
 

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I think it's pretty well established that the thug attacked him - probably did attempt to get his gun - got shot in the process - fled - and the cop had lost his temper and put the bad dog down - I don't blame him but its still a crime

Not if Brown came at him and he feared for his safety.
 

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too many bullets were used here.............plus Wilson and Brown had a bigger gap between them after the car struggle........The officer was emotional after the struggle in the car and it carried over to his trigger finger......
 

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Stop-SS--Just stop it.....
When "The Gentle Giant" was finally stopped, reportedly he landed only 2 feet from the Officer
 

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I think it's pretty well established that the thug attacked him - probably did attempt to get his gun - got shot in the process - fled - and the cop had lost his temper and put the bad dog down - I don't blame him but its still a crime

To rob a store and assault a police officer


The mistake was Brown didn't hurt the officer bad enough for him to run away and not get caught so he went back after him bad mistake
 

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The fact that the FBI and DOJ are investigating this is sickening.

The idea that Brown put up his hands and was trying to surrender and the officer shot him 6 times anyway is so preposterous only those ghetto wanna-be thugs and race hustlers would believe it.
 

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too many bullets were used here.............plus Wilson and Brown had a bigger gap between them after the car struggle........The officer was emotional after the struggle in the car and it carried over to his trigger finger......

It's in the handbook. . You NEVER EVER USE 1 OR 2 bullets.. it shows control and the attys can use it to show methodical intent. They are taught to empty gun/5-6 shots... this shows more fear.

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That thief is guiltier than fkn OJ.
 

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The cop walks. Charges shouldn't even be brought against him. The media has set up for riots all over the country. Brown was a bad person who got exactly what he deserved.
 

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The fact that the FBI and DOJ are investigating this is sickening.

Agreed, the police officer should have been arrested by now. At the time the person was shot there was no imminent danger to the officer. I personally dont think race even matters here, it should be about a cop who used excessive force.
 

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Agreed, the police officer should have been arrested by now. At the time the person was shot there was no imminent danger to the officer. I personally dont think race even matters here, it should be about a cop who used excessive force.

You just don't know this. How would you?
 

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too many bullets were used here.............plus Wilson and Brown had a bigger gap between them after the car struggle........The officer was emotional after the struggle in the car and it carried over to his trigger finger......


So what?

Don't attack a police officer then.

Guy got what he deserved. Period.
 

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If the DA officially states they are not gonna charge the officer - man day gonna be buck wildin out there
 

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Then how did the thug only land 2 feet from him?

I'll just point out that by calling him a "thug" indicates your bias in this issue. Ask yourself a simple question: would you feel the same way if it had been a black officer and using lethal force on an unarmed white kid?
 

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I'll just point out that by calling him a "thug" indicates your bias in this issue. Ask yourself a simple question: would you feel the same way if it had been a black officer and using lethal force on an unarmed white kid?

yes i would


Anyone that attacks a police officer deserves to be shot
 

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