Johnny Manziel will make his first career start this weekend against the Cincinnati Bengals

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Cleveland Browns rookie quarterback Johnny Manziel will make his first career start this weekend against the Cincinnati Bengals, sources confirmed to ESPN.
The Browns informed Manziel and Brian Hoyer, who has started Cleveland's first 13 games this season, of their decision, sources confirmed.
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Cleveland's choice to start Manziel was reported earlier Tuesday by Fox Sports.



Manziel is expected to arrive at the facility sometime Tuesday to begin to prepare to face the Bengals, a team source told ESPN.com's Jeremy Fowler. Manziel will not be making any public comments Tuesday as he's focused on preparation for his first start, the source said.
He is expected to address the media from the locker room Wednesday.


Browns coach Mike Pettine indicated that he was leaning toward a quarterback change during his news conference Monday, one day after Hoyer struggled in a loss to the Indianapolis Colts.


Manziel, whose debut start will come in Cleveland's final home game, will have three games to show the Browns (7-6) if he can be the franchise quarterback they've coveted for two decades. Manziel is the Browns' 21st starting quarterback since 1999.


Cleveland has lost three of its last four games but can remain in serious postseason contention with a win Sunday over rival Cincinnati (8-4-1), which leads the AFC North by one-half game.


Even before Manziel was told he'll start, the possibility sparked some controversy, with Bengals coach Marvin Lewis calling the 6-foot rookie "a midget" on Monday night. Lewis later apologized, but the jab stirred up the Ohio rivalry.


Manziel replaced an ineffective Hoyer against the Bills on Nov. 30, and orchestrated an 80-yard touchdown drive, completing three of his first four passes for 54 yards. Pettine was impressed with that drive but acknowledged that the Bills were playing a prevent defense and that the sequence wasn't a true test of what Manziel might have faced against Indianapolis.


<cite>AP Photo/Bill Wippert</cite>Rookie Johnny Manziel will make his first career start Sunday, according to sources.





Hoyer has orchestrated just one touchdown drive in his last 29 series, according to ESPN Stats & Information. He played well to start the year and led the Browns to a 7-4 record but has struggled mightily the past five games.


In Sunday's 25-24 loss to the Colts, Hoyer completed 14 of 31 passes for 140 yards and two interceptions.


The Browns selected Manziel, 22, with the 22nd overall pick in this year's draft out of Texas A&M, where he won the Heisman Trophy as a freshman in 2012.
Manziel's promotion could signal the end of Hoyer's time with the Browns. A Cleveland-area native who grew up attending Browns games with his father, Hoyer, who battled back from a season-ending knee injury in 2013, is in the final year of his contract. With Manziel as the starter, Hoyer likely will have to sign elsewhere if he wants to remain a starter.


The Browns' switch at quarterback didn't affect the oddsmakers in Las Vegas, as Cleveland stayed as a pick 'em Tuesday.


Asked if there had been any reaction from bettors to the news, Ed Salmons, head football oddsmaker at the Westgate SuperBook said, "None." Added: Nick Bodganovich, director of trading at William Hill: "Not one bit."


The ticket market, meanwhile, did see a jump.


The average list price on the resale market for Sunday's game has gone from $123.78 to $169.49 (36.93 percent increase), according to resale ticket aggregator TiqIQ.


Cleveland ticket broker Mark Klang, who says his company Amazing Tickets is the Browns' largest ticket-holder, said sales picked up Tuesday, despite prices increasing.


"Our prices are about 15 higher so far," Klang said. "If this keeps up the rest of day and evening, I expect prices will jump another 10 percent in the morning."
Manziel couldn't beat out Hoyer during training camp and the rookie's off-the-field behavior, which included weekend trips to Las Vegas, led to outside criticism of his maturity and commitment. The Browns held off on playing him until they felt he was ready, and now Pettine has put the team's season in Manziel's hands.



ESPN.com's Jeremy Fowler, David Purdum and Darren Rovell and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

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should be interesting to see how he does. I know you are a HUGE fan BAS.
 
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If your QB sucks for 3 hours it is usually pretty hard to win. Of course he was a big reason they lost.

Guess I was watching the wrong game. Because I could Swear that Hoyer/Browns had a 24-19 Lead with 3:46 left in the game.
and by the time he got the ball back he had 32 seconds left in the game.

My Bad
 

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Yeah cause they scored 2 defensive TDs. If he played better then maybe they would've won.

Not sure why anyone would think a QB sucking has no correlation to a loss when a team loses by a field goal.

He has 0 Tds and 7 INTs in his last 3 against suppar competition, think they might wanna find someone else.....
 
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Yeah cause they scored 2 defensive TDs. If he played better then maybe they would've won.

Not sure why anyone would think a QB sucking has no correlation to a loss when a team loses by a field goal.

He has 0 Tds and 7 INTs in his last 3 against suppar competition, think they might wanna find someone else.....

Not saying he doesn't Sucks lately. Said HE didn't lose the game for them.

They had the Lead... Doesn't matter How they had the lead. It's not like he threw a Pick 6 to Lose the game.
Defense couldn't hold the Lead. Hoyer did NOT lose the game for them.
 

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In what world does a QB not share responsibility for a loss when he goes 14-31 for 140 yards and 2 INTs? I mean he played awful by any reasonable estimation.

They got an F out of QB sunday, if they get a C- maybe they win....

You can't break the game down into the final 4 mins and completely ignore that deficient QB play is what got them in that scenario in the first place.

Do you realize how often teams win in the NFL when they get 2 non-offensive TDs? It is probably like 95%
 
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In what world does a QB not share responsibility for a loss when he goes 14-31 for 140 yards and 2 INTs? I mean he played awful by any reasonable estimation.

They got an F out of QB sunday, if they get a C- maybe they win....

You can't break the game down into the final 4 mins and completely ignore that deficient QB play is what got them in that scenario in the first place.

Do you realize how often teams win in the NFL when they get 2 non-offensive TDs? It is probably like 95%

QB's and All Players have a bad day... maybe even a bad couple of weeks. Yes if you want to say IF he would have played better, they could have Won.
If Luck played better for 3/4 of the game, we Probably wouldn't even be talking about this.

But you can't go by "IF"

The FACT is, with 3:46 left in the game. The COLTS got the ball , down 24-19 and Scored on a 4th Down play.
regardless how the Browns had the lead, they Lost That Game because the Browns Defense didn't stop the Colts on 4th Down.

Yes, Hoyer has been Horrible. .... was Horrible in the game. But I wouldn't care if the Defense Scored Every Point in Every Game. If they have a Lead and Can't hold because the Defense couldn't hold it, then it was the Defense that Lost the game.

You can't go by IF's
 

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The game is 60 minutes long, to ignore highly deficent play at the most important position for 56 of those minutes and say it has nothing to do with a loss is highly flawed analysis.

I can't even believe we're debating this.

If the defense scores MORE POINTS than the offense, usually most people are gonna tell you the offense is the reason the team lost....

What you are doing is isolating a variable over a small portion of the game rather than looking at the entire game.



QB plays awful = teams chances to win decrease = deficient QB play a big reason team lost
 
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The game is 60 minutes long, to ignore highly deficent play at the most important position for 56 of those minutes and say it has nothing to do with a loss is highly flawed analysis.

I can't even believe we're debating this.

If the defense scores MORE POINTS than the offense, usually most people are gonna tell you the offense is the reason the team lost....

What you are doing is isolating a variable over a small portion of the game rather than looking at the entire game.



QB plays awful = teams chances to win decrease = deficient QB play a big reason team lost

Yeah but we are debating this because you are set on saying that the Cleveland Browns Defense had Nothing to do with Losing this game.

I understand what you are saying. But You Don't understand my point. QB not playing well is part of the reason for losing a game.
But regardless how he played, they still held a lead. You are Totally ignoring the fact that they had a lead with less than 4 minutes left in the game, and Lost it While The Browns Defense was on the field .. Not while Hoyer was on the field.

Perfect example would be the Bears last week. We all know that Cutler Sucks. But his stats weren't what lost them the game. ( 32-46, 341 YDS, 2 TDS )
they scored 28 points, but the DEFENSE gave up 41

Should have Cutler passed for 500 yards to win the game ??

and we can't go by "IF'S "

an Offense will Win & Lose Games... same goes for Defenses.

The Colts started out at their own 10 yard line. They went 90 Yards to score a TD, that's not on Hoyer
 

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No I never said that re: the Browns D and I never ignored that fact. Nothing in my posts suggests I did, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Overall through 60 mins they gave the team much more of a chance to win than the offense though.

All I said was if you get an abysmal QB performance and lose by a field goal then QB play is a big reason you lost. You said it wasn't a reason they lost and it was because the defense gaveup a TD with 45 seconds left. I'd be surprised if anyone besides you would argue that Hoyer doesn't share significant blame for their loss Sunday.

And lastly, this warrants repeating....When your defense scores MORE POINTS than your offense, I think we know which side of the ball is more responsible for the loss.
 
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No I never said that re: the Browns D and I never ignored that fact. Nothing in my posts suggests I did, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Overall through 60 mins they gave the team much more of a chance to win than the offense though.

All I said was if you get an abysmal QB performance and lose by a field goal then QB play is a big reason you lost. You said it wasn't a reason they lost and it was because the defense gaveup a TD with 45 seconds left. I'd be surprised if anyone besides you would argue that Hoyer doesn't share significant blame for their loss Sunday.

And lastly, this warrants repeating....When your defense scores MORE POINTS than your offense, I think we know which side of the ball is more responsible for the loss.

You could say Hoyer had something to do with losing. But he didn't Lose the game.

I'm done
 

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You could say Hoyer had something to do with losing. But he didn't Lose the game.

I'm done

That is what I said in post #7. My first post in this thread and you seemed to disagree with it


"If your QB sucks for 3 hours it is usually pretty hard to win. Of course he was a big reason they lost."​


Infact that is was I said every single post in this thread

 

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14/31 for 140yds and 0 td's against a D that gave up 392 yards and 3 td's to colt McCoy the week before . Manziel deserves the start
 

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