Why does ESPN mess with guys like Greenberg, Golic, Herm Edwards, Kornheiser, Screamin A smiff, Skip Bayless, Wilbon

Vlad the Impaler · Jan 6, 2015

Put me on the air. I would be more interesting. Myself and Colin Cowherd are the ones that understand 95% of this bs we see everyday.

We all know what happened in the game. Don't need another breakdown especially from someone with a lower IQ. Herm Edwards and Tony Dungy may be the 2 dumbest coaches we have seen in the last 10 years. Hey Tony, do you run any different defense besides rushing 4, middle backer running 20 yards back to the middle, corners covering soft up, safeties split....And Herm Edwards learned from him and someone hired him as Head Coach? I don't know how he fucked up.

PatsFan1283 · Jan 6, 2015

that tampa 2 works great if you got dominant pass rushers

Vlad the Impaler · Jan 6, 2015

PatsFan1283 said:
that tampa 2 works great if you got dominant pass rushers

Tampa 2 is complete shit. There is a reason teams; the majority of the good teams run a 3-4. Dungy's defense was so obvious. Belichich probably laughed to himself. Guy never blitzed. Dungy was so predictable. Because he is black and a nice guy, people overated him. Worst coach I have ever seen. I would have put him in a camp years ago.

Vlad the Impaler · Jan 6, 2015

Herm Edwards is a complete moron. I suppose that is ESPN's entertainment for the day

Vlad the Impaler · Jan 6, 2015

And by the way, what defense doesn't work if you have dominant pass rushers?

REDEYE · Jan 6, 2015

PTI guys are ok.. agree with you on some of the others.. Edwards starts every other sentence with " here's the problem " Outside of PTI I don't listen much at all with the others

cy1981 · Jan 6, 2015

Dungy built a team in Tampa that won a Super Bowl. Then went to Indy where he won a Super Bowl. But he can't coach. :think2:

Mobdeeper7239 · Jan 6, 2015

Cant cuss on the air man. Lol

lt56 · Jan 6, 2015

cy1981 said:
Dungy built a team in Tampa that won a Super Bowl. Then went to Indy where he won a Super Bowl. But he can't coach. :think2:

for 5 years Dungy had one of the most dominant defenses of all time. that was Kiffin's defense, not Dungy's in TB. Dungy could not figure out in all that time he needed an average at best offense to win the superbowl easily. he stuck with the same offensive coordinator and players who together formed one of the worst offenses in NFL history. the conservative approach that prevented that team from winning multiple championships was never adjusted. then Gruden comes in and brings in an average Brad Johnson, an average running game and a few receivers. what happens????? Gruden wins the superbowl going away in his 1st year. Dungy is one of the worst coaches in NFL history.

then he tags along on the Tom Moore - Peyton Manning train and they win him a superbowl. he did nothing with the colts defense to improve it and certainly had no say in the offense. the defense played well only in the playoffs when they won the bowl. that's it. other than that they sucked. they managed to shut down Rex Grossman in the big game. listening to his nonsensical babble on TV makes me look for a rope, a strong beam and a stool.

rickardodry · Jan 6, 2015

U can also throw Jim Caldwell on the same train as dungy, the Manning train.

cy1981 · Jan 6, 2015

Yeah winning is not a barometer for success.

Dungy's career in NFL: 13 seasons.
One losing season...his first at Tampa Bay.
Career record: 139-69 for a 66.8% winning %.
One Super Bowl champion.
6th best winning percentage of all-time.

Yep. Horrible coach.

packer2012 · Jan 6, 2015

cy1981 said:
Dungy built a team in Tampa that won a Super Bowl. Then went to Indy where he won a Super Bowl. But he can't coach. :think2:

Tony should have remained a defensive coordinator and would have been great. But the bullshit.... you got to interview a black man.... crap came along. He should never have been a head coach!

cy1981 · Jan 6, 2015

See above. You will never convince me he wasn't a good coach.

cy1981 · Jan 6, 2015

I would like for you guys to name your good coaches if Dungy wasn't.

lt56 · Jan 6, 2015

cy1981 said:
Yeah winning is not a barometer for success.

Dungy's career in NFL: 13 seasons.
One losing season...his first at Tampa Bay.
Career record: 139-69 for a 66.8% winning %.
One Super Bowl champion.
6th best winning percentage of all-time.

Yep. Horrible coach.

winning nothing when the only thing that needed done was the simplest coaching move ever makes you a bad coach. i already explained he did nothing in indy.
for people that don't know anything about football, stats mean more to simpletons like you.

lt56 · Jan 6, 2015

cy1981 said:
I would like for you guys to name your good coaches if Dungy wasn't.

so if a coach has no talent to work with and goes 10-6, and a coach with the most talent in the league who goes 11-5, who is a better coach??????

Ironman_8 · Jan 6, 2015

Vlad, to be honest the average sports fan isnt very smart. The biggest troll on the list here is Bayless and probably the most popular. If you look at his twitter feed and his comments on First Take you will notice its just to illicit a

(emotional) response from others. Cowherd is cool with me other than his remarks on John Wall.

Vlad the Impaler · Jan 6, 2015

cy1981 said:
Dungy built a team in Tampa that won a Super Bowl. Then went to Indy where he won a Super Bowl. But he can't coach. :think2:

No he can not. He is the most overated coach in NFL history but the Democratic media pushes its agenda on us because he is a nice and likeable guy. His kids suck too. I played 1 in basketball

Vlad the Impaler · Jan 6, 2015

lt56 said:
for 5 years Dungy had one of the most dominant defenses of all time. that was Kiffin's defense, not Dungy's in TB. Dungy could not figure out in all that time he needed an average at best offense to win the superbowl easily. he stuck with the same offensive coordinator and players who together formed one of the worst offenses in NFL history. the conservative approach that prevented that team from winning multiple championships was never adjusted. then Gruden comes in and brings in an average Brad Johnson, an average running game and a few receivers. what happens????? Gruden wins the superbowl going away in his 1st year. Dungy is one of the worst coaches in NFL history.

then he tags along on the Tom Moore - Peyton Manning train and they win him a superbowl. he did nothing with the colts defense to improve it and certainly had no say in the offense. the defense played well only in the playoffs when they won the bowl. that's it. other than that they sucked. they managed to shut down Rex Grossman in the big game. listening to his nonsensical babble on TV makes me look for a rope, a strong beam and a stool.

See, this guy gets it. I think Dungy costs the colts a SB or 2 with his nice guy approach...Lets rest everyone for a month or so, then play them all game in a playoff game with the world watching

Vlad the Impaler · Jan 6, 2015

I remember a play in which Peyton overruled Dungy on a 4th down. Dumb guy wanted to punt and Manning waved the punt team off the field.

Why does ESPN mess with guys like Greenberg, Golic, Herm Edwards, Kornheiser, Screamin A smiff, Skip Bayless, Wilbon

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