Preparing for GOY Wagers

BigdaddyQH · Apr 18, 2015

It is that time of year to start to prepare for the GOY wagers that will be up in June. The first thing I do is study the schedule. I look for what should be the obvious lines such as Notre Dame -3 vs USC, TCU -3 vs Baylor, Michigan State -3 vs Oregon, etc...If the lines are too big, or if the away team is favored in those type of games, that is the first indication that we may have a bad line.

Next, we look for lines to stay away from. Example. OU vs Texas. OU will be favored, but by how much. Anything between 2 1/2 and 6 1/2 is a red flag. These two teams are so flakey that anything can happen, especially in that game, so we tend to stay away from them.

Finally, we give lines to all of the games that we may be interested in. Normally there is a team or two that the linesmaker will either like or dislike. Those are good lines to study. Northwestern has always been a favorite among the folks at the Nugget. I do not know why. We try to find teams that we think will be "sleepers" and look at those lines. We then prepare to specifically look at lines involving those teams.

GOY wagering can be fun, if you are prepared. Watching the action is always fun because it is like the stock market floor after a majer event has taken place. Totally crazy.

cloverleaf · Apr 18, 2015

BD, what are the Nuggets rules?

Bet size (max/min)? Number of bets allowed? Any totals betting? Time to get bets in? Do you have to appear in person or can you have someone place bets for you? Is a bet laid a bet played? What is the time frame for placing bets?

Appreciate you educating me on how GOY wagers work...................

REDEYE · Apr 18, 2015

You need to prepare a little harder..LY you were awful with GOY wagers.. We can bring up the thread if you want..lets try not to BS us this year with your BS..thanks

Conan · Apr 19, 2015

I think what RedEye is saying is that preconceived ideas and notions that indicate a reversal of historical trends don't work very often. Also, you must be keenly aware of holes that have yet to be filled on rosters and depth charts paying close attention to key players that have not yet reported to camp. It's probably best to use the history between 2 teams as a baseline guide then make note of recent trends and upswings for past defeated teams who may be on the verge of turning the tables. That right there might work out to be a nice moneyline shot on a dog if he's cool and he's wearing his doggles. But to me it would take some significant news or publicized surprises or situations to interest me in a side to wager, What matters and what doesn't and recognizing the difference separates the men from the boys.

Conan · Apr 19, 2015

First off, I have a probable fade on USC when they go to Tempe to play the Sun Devils on Sept. 26.
In what looks like a tough opening conference schedule, the Trojans will be entertaining the Stanford
Cardinal on the 19th, one week prior to hitting the road to Arizona. According to past history, that
week is predictably going to be a sore one for a bunch of Trojans. Everyone that plays Stanford feels
it for days and days.

Conan · Apr 19, 2015

Second, one more USC fade, this time a wager ON the Colorado Buffs at home entertaining USC right after Rich Rodriguez puts the Trojan's defense through his more evolved offensive tests as I've been reading. He always was good at mounting an offense that gives DC's nightmares, especially in games like this one on a national stage. Here is where the Trojans will find things are harder going than expected and there won't be much that Sark can do about it. It will take some acts of great heroism for the Trojans to survive the Wildcats.

Then whew!

The Colorado Buffalos home will provide a nice break and maybe a night on the town for the Trojans the following Saturday. It will seem almost like a vacation. I bet you that there are no notes at all in the calendar week of the Colorado game on the USC locker room wall, nor will there be any. The Trojans could use a week of taking it easy anyway. That being said, I really like Mike MacIntyre as a head coach and he won't be taking this game lightly. He has a history of coaching up his teams and it is a good one, especially when he takes over a program from scratch. He is in his sophomore season at Colorado after he put San Jose St. back on the map in the WAC.

The Trojan faithful will have to pay dearly if they wish to bet on their Alma Mater here -- as is often the case, it's not a good deal. The fact that the game is being played in November towards the end of the season is to MacIntyre's advantage. It may also be to his advantage that the Trojans will be looking "forward" to traveling to Autzen Stadium the following week to take on the Ducks right before they wrap things up vs UCLA. I bet you that Sarkisian blinks at Colorado. It won't be as easy as he thinks it will be. Nice guys like him tend to ease up and play down to their opponents level.

GoSooners · Apr 19, 2015

Sarkasian better find some defense or none of USC's games are going to be easy...

BigdaddyQH · Apr 19, 2015

cloverleaf said:
BD, what are the Nuggets rules?

Bet size (max/min)? Number of bets allowed? Any totals betting? Time to get bets in? Do you have to appear in person or can you have someone place bets for you? Is a bet laid a bet played? What is the time frame for placing bets?

Appreciate you educating me on how GOY wagers work...................

Clover. Last year you were allowed to make 5 wager of up to $1,000 each before having to go to the back of the line. There were no totals. Only sides. Many people go in groups that want to play the same team, so they can get their action down as quickly as possible. Some line move quickly. Others do not move at all. You can make these wagers anytime after the wagering starts. Most of the Vegas Sports Books use the opening line to try and avoid getting "middled" down the road. Here is an interesting thing that we noticed last season. Teams may have performed better than expected or worse than expected for part of the season, but the lines did not vary much, if at all, from the Golden Nugget posted GOY lines. UCLA was -4 against USC at the Nugget in June. When they played, UCLA was a two loss team and USC was a three loss team, but the line actually went down to 3 1/2, even though the game was played in Pasadena, the home of UCLA.

BigdaddyQH · Apr 19, 2015

RED EYE said:
You need to prepare a little harder..LY you were awful with GOY wagers.. We can bring up the thread if you want..lets try not to BS us this year with your BS..thanks

Red, anytime you want to make a wager for any amount of money, you just let me know. For a guy who rarely makes wagers,and then for very little money, you sure do talk a lot. You are just upset because once again, your Oregon team lost in the clutch. They always have, and they always will. They just do not have the discipline that it takes to win it all. Sorry but that is the way it is, and I have the PROOF to say this. You are correct when you say that my GOY wagers were losers at the beginning of the season. As usual, you totally forget to include my record at the end of the season. When you are as successful as I am, you come to expect attacks from the wanna-be's like you. You really contribute little to college football conversations. Stick to your nickel and dime wagers at the off shore sites.

BigdaddyQH · Apr 19, 2015

GoSooners said:
Sarkasian better find some defense or none of USC's games are going to be easy...

I do not think that Sark has to find anything as far as talent goes. Obviously USC has more overall talent than any Big 12 team with the possible exception of TCU. What Sark had better find is a way to get this team to play consistantly EVERY WEEK. They also had better find a way to win the close games and not give away games. Losing games to Boston College, and the give away game to Arizona State is simply unacceptable.

REDEYE · Apr 19, 2015

BigdaddyQH said:
Red, anytime you want to make a wager for any amount of money, you just let me know. For a guy who rarely makes wagers,and then for very little money, you sure do talk a lot. You are just upset because once again, your Oregon team lost in the clutch. They always have, and they always will. They just do not have the discipline that it takes to win it all. Sorry but that is the way it is, and I have the PROOF to say this. You are correct when you say that my GOY wagers were losers at the beginning of the season. As usual, you totally forget to include my record at the end of the season. When you are as successful as I am, you come to expect attacks from the wanna-be's like you. You really contribute little to college football conversations. Stick to your nickel and dime wagers at the off shore sites.

I know, I get it.. We are all nothing, and you are at the top of the food chain.... How many times have we heard this ? But for the record, you know very little what I do....and the reason......Unlike you, I'm not bragging about myself, and more importantly, I don't constantly put other posters on this forum down.... As far as the subject matter is concerned, LY's GOY thread was bumped and exposed several times before it was flushed for good.. Again we can bump this embarrassment of yours again if you like...

REDEYE · Apr 19, 2015

BigdaddyQH said:
Red, anytime you want to make a wager for any amount of money, you just let me know. For a guy who rarely makes wagers,and then for very little money, you sure do talk a lot. You are just upset because once again, your Oregon team lost in the clutch. They always have, and they always will. They just do not have the discipline that it takes to win it all. Sorry but that is the way it is, and I have the PROOF to say this. You are correct when you say that my GOY wagers were losers at the beginning of the season. As usual, you totally forget to include my record at the end of the season. When you are as successful as I am, you come to expect attacks from the wanna-be's like you. You really contribute little to college football conversations. Stick to your nickel and dime wagers at the off shore sites.

I have 2 Vegas trips scheduled in next 6 weeks..I will be at the Westgate if you want to wager something.... Tell me when up front when your available....

BigdaddyQH · Apr 19, 2015

I do not have my dates firm yet, but I will be at the Nugget for the GOY wagering. I will let you know. You can't do better than the Westgate? How sad. I thought you could at least stay at one of the less expensive strip hotels. It must be those $39.00 room rates.

REDEYE · Apr 19, 2015

BigdaddyQH said:
I do not have my dates firm yet, but I will be at the Nugget for the GOY wagering. I will let you know. You can't do better than the Westgate? How sad. I thought you could at least stay at one of the less expensive strip hotels. It must be those $39.00 room rates.

Best sportsbook in Vegas... nice accommodations.. Why not stay there ? save us all the bull shit that you only stay at a suite on the top floor at the Wynn

Conan · Apr 20, 2015

I'm afraid RedEye has you here on this one BDQH.

The Westgate is the largest race and sportsbook in the world.
They have the best if not the most plush accommodations found
in any sportsbook in Vegas. Leather back chairs that breathe
and don't leave you drenched in a pool of your own sweat after
a long day playing the ponies or watching CFB. I could go on but
it sounds like you don't know much about the place BD and I'm not
here to sell timeshares or book rooms. It wouldn't hurt you one bit
to see what the Westgate has to offer. By all means, don't take my
word for it, and don't take RedEye's word for it either.
See it for yourself.

I don't understand why anyone would spend much of their own
time and money searching for an advantage in lines or rules to
go by then piss away money they gained by finding good value
at the betting window. You may as well make paper airplanes
out of $100 bills and sending them flying from a top floor suite
down to the street below.

BigdaddyQH · Apr 20, 2015

Conan, the hotel is a dump. Period. I can go to any Sportsbook and do use the Westgate, but as far as everything else is concerned, it is for the degenerate gambler. I tip more than a room costs there. I have nothing against the Sportsbook, just the rest of that dump.

You also know nothing about GOY wagering, so I suggest that you cease commenting on it until you try it. It can be a huge money maker because it opens up many opportunities at middling, and any gambler worth his weight in gold will tell you that middling is the easiest way to make money. I really do not expect you, or anyone else in here to understand the concept. You guys do not wager enough to understand it.

REDEYE · Apr 20, 2015

BigdaddyQH said:
Conan, the hotel is a dump. Period. I can go to any Sportsbook and do use the Westgate, but as far as everything else is concerned, it is for the degenerate gambler. I tip more than a room costs there. I have nothing against the Sportsbook, just the rest of that dump.

You also know nothing about GOY wagering, so I suggest that you cease commenting on it until you try it. It can be a huge money maker because it opens up many opportunities at middling, and any gambler worth his weight in gold will tell you that middling is the easiest way to make money. I really do not expect you, or anyone else in here to understand the concept. You guys do not wager enough to understand it.

Not sure why you keep referring the Westgate as a dump...rooms are nice, especially if you upgrade....Was in one of the nicer suites in August... it was great... you can put up or shut up with your bragging.... nobody here buys what you sell.... the major reason I like the sportsbook is , it offers a lot more props then anywhere else....I feel I can exploit them pretty well

REDEYE · Apr 20, 2015

BigdaddyQH said:
Conan, the hotel is a dump. Period. I can go to any Sportsbook and do use the Westgate, but as far as everything else is concerned, it is for the degenerate gambler. I tip more than a room costs there. I have nothing against the Sportsbook, just the rest of that dump.

You also know nothing about GOY wagering, so I suggest that you cease commenting on it until you try it. It can be a huge money maker because it opens up many opportunities at middling, and any gambler worth his weight in gold will tell you that middling is the easiest way to make money. I really do not expect you, or anyone else in here to understand the concept. You guys do not wager enough to understand it.

With the record you had last year with your GOY bets we all pretty much think your lacking with this particular prop yourself

Conan · Apr 20, 2015

BigdaddyQH said:
Conan, the hotel is a dump. Period. I can go to any Sportsbook and do use the Westgate, but as far as everything else is concerned, it is for the degenerate gambler. I tip more than a room costs there. I have nothing against the Sportsbook, just the rest of that dump.

You also know nothing about GOY wagering, so I suggest that you cease commenting on it until you try it. It can be a huge money maker because it opens up many opportunities at middling, and any gambler worth his weight in gold will tell you that middling is the easiest way to make money. I really do not expect you, or anyone else in here to understand the concept. You guys do not wager enough to understand it.

BD, how is it that you seem to know all these things about people you have never met? If this "know more than you really know" way that you assess people and information is anything like the way you figure your angles when you are gambling, maybe you'd be better off skipping the GOY wagering altogether. I remember what RedEye was referring to concerning your GOY selections in the past, and for someone that claims to know all you know, I just don't see where you made out or how you did it. Your selections plain stunk up the place and for everyone's sake, including yours I don't want to elaborate.
I have been on this site for going on 17 years. You probably knew that or at least you had an idea of something close to it. And yet you believe no one here has ever brought up the subject of middling because I don't wager enough money to understand it anyway? On top of that, you know that RedEye wasn't born yesterday either -- or you should know it. But you show that you consistently miss such minor details such as another sentient being who spent the last 14 years on this site and according to you he learned virtually nothing. How is it that you know all these things about him... or are you really just a flipped out ex-cop who has some super deductive, keen ability to see through all of this phoniness. You like to think that you can peg people for who they really are, weak compulsive liars, beneath you and depraved. They are no different from all the lowlifers you used to associate with when you were a cop. Now years later, these same creeps just won't leave you alone. THEY REFUSE TO GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD.

Albatross · Apr 20, 2015

Red Eye is one of the only posters here that I believe makes a lot of future wagers. I don't play them because of the lottery ticket feeling. I think Red does well on them though. I personally like Westgate. May you both have success though.

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