What NFL Extra Point change do you support?

Defying · May 19, 2015

Owners are going to discuss and vote on these 3 proposals.. What proposal do you support?

Currently Kicks are from the 2 yard line for extra points...

Extra Point Proposal #1 (Submitted by NE)
Extra point kick from the 15 yard line (33 yard FG)
Or Placing the Ball at the 2 yard line for 2 point conversion

Extra Point Proposal #2 (Submitted by PHI)
Extra point kick from the 15 yard line (33 yard FG)
Or Placing the Ball at the 1 yard line for 2 point conversion
Defense scores 2 points if it returns a turnover on a 2pt conversion attempt

Extra Point Proposal #3 (Submitted by Competition Committee)
Extra point kick from the 15 yard line (33 yard FG)
Or Placing the Ball at the 2 yard line for 2 point conversion
Defense scores 2 points if it returns a turnover on a 2pt conversion attempt

thekeyman · May 19, 2015

i don't like any of them.leave it as it is cause if you kick a 33 yd field goal when not getting a td you get 3 so why only get 1 point for the same distance.there are many other rule changes they can make that needs attention more than an extra point.

that touching the receiver after 5 yds down the field is a bunch of crap as it happens much more than they call it and it is the time in the game when you really don't need it called that it mostly does get called.let these guys bump each other and see who wins the battle just as long as the ball is not in the air or you are not holding the receiver,after all this is tackle football right

RenoChazz · May 19, 2015

I say get rid of the extra point kick all together, and make 2 points or nothing.

JasonBiggz · May 19, 2015

Patriots would go for 2 from the 2 yard line and then drop kick the ball. Technically they scored so they would be awarded 2 points.

CHOPTALK · May 19, 2015

They need to have retractable goal post that are 5 feet narrower for EP's then FGs.
Make the EP be the width of an arena football kick.
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Vlad the Impaler · May 19, 2015

The 2 point conversion from the 1 will be a nightmare. Everyone will do it and there will hardly be any clear cut evidence as there will be 22 guys all in a 5 yard box. Just eliminate the kick all together and spit balling make it a point from the 3 or 4 so it has to be a real play to get the extra point. If its from the 3, could be a run or pass. Likely pick play bubble screen for most teams though. The extra point is just a waste of a play.

CoachCB · May 19, 2015

#3. If any play is run the D should have a chance to return a kick/fumble for a score.

I think moving it back to a the 15 yard line is fair. It's not a gimme (although it will likely have a 90% or higher rate of success....vs nearly 100% now). The way it is now is just a waste.

On that note, I think they should keep a kick as an option. It's football how we all have grown up knowing it. They've changed so many rules it's gotten ridiculous.

CHOPTALK · May 19, 2015

I think they are changing it so people will watch more commercials

The Guesser · May 19, 2015

#2. Now you see why Philly signed Tebow. If their proposal passes, they will go for 2 90% of the time. The only times they won't, is when they only need 1 to ice a game, etc.
I could live with 3 as well.

Greenbacks · May 19, 2015

I say leave it alone.

loomis41973 · May 19, 2015

Why fuck with something that works?

tar_heel_in_sc · May 19, 2015

I don't really want it changed either, but if it has to be one of these then #3.

Jstack34 · May 19, 2015

Not sure why they are changing it - so tough to score a touchdown and now they are attaching 2 points potentially to 1 play but life will move on

DrunkenHorseplayer · May 19, 2015

Eliminate it, bith ones and twos.

CHOPTALK · May 19, 2015

Well if you go back to the 20s and 30s the extra point was far from a lock.
And that's the way football was meant to be played.

Football was not meant to be an automatic 7 points if you get a touchdown.
Maybe that's the way it's been in our lifetimes but that is not the way it was intended.

The forefathers of the NFL should have been making adjustments for decades and decades as kickers got better and better .

But since they did not do that it is going to force a paradigm shift to everyone's thinking on what an extra point should be that should have never existed in the first place if the rules were changed at a steady pace all these years.

One thing I'm surprised has not been mentioned yet on this gambling forum is the huge implications this will have on betting.

The Numbers 3 and 7 will not be nearly as key as they use to be.
Yes 3 and 7 and all the other key numbers of the past will still be more significant then the other numbers but they won't quite be as key as they were in the past.

This will add a few wrinkles to teaser betting.

PatsFan1283 · May 19, 2015

It'll matter more when the weather is bad but a 33 yard FG and a 20 yard FG don't have a ton of difference in EV

CHOPTALK · May 19, 2015

I'm

PatsFan1283 said:
It'll matter more when the weather is bad but a 33 yard FG and a 20 yard FG don't have a ton of difference in EV

More then you think. Going down just 4% will change the Game more then just a little.

Then you throw in the teams like philly that will automatically go for 2 at a much higher clip that changes things even more

Defying · May 19, 2015

CHOPTALK said:
One thing I'm surprised has not been mentioned yet on this gambling forum is the huge implications this will have on betting.

The Numbers 3 and 7 will not be nearly as key as they use to be.
Yes 3 and 7 and all the other key numbers of the past will still be more significant then the other numbers but they won't quite be as key as they were in the past.

This will add a few wrinkles to teaser betting.

stole my next thread
definitely has huge gambling implications, what that is, i'm not sure

PatsFan1283 · May 19, 2015

It's only 4%? I thought it was 10%?

4% equity on 1pt is nothing

It'll matter more in some situations than others of course

CHOPTALK · May 19, 2015

Just look at the scores from the 20s and 30s

it wasn't 28 to 14 or 21 to 17 like a lot of the games are these days.

It was 26 to 16
27 to 22

Yea you had normal scores to but not nearly like you do now.

That was because back then a TD was not an automatic 7 points.

Kind of like high schools games now

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