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Alabama, mostly.
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The college football season is still three months away, but we have early betting odds for some of the year's biggest games via 5Dimes.
Of note: Michigan State is an early favorite over Oregon, Ohio State is favored over Jim Harbaugh's Michigan by more than a touchdown and Florida State is favored by just two points over Florida.
The list is also loaded with SEC games. Nine of the 20 games feature an SEC opponent, with eight being in-conference clashes. Alabama is featured in five games (and favored in all of them), while three LSU games are on the list.
Potential national champion contender TCU has two games on the list, as a slight favorite against Oklahoma and a slightly larger favorite against Baylor. Peruse the list below, and make sure to get to arguin' in the comments.
Michigan State favored by 3 vs. Oregon
Alabama favored by 12 vs. Ole Miss
LSU favored by 1 vs. Auburn
Alabama favored by 1 at Georgia
Oklahoma favored by 5 vs. Texas, in Dallas
Michigan State favored by 3.5 at Michigan
Oregon favored by 1.5 at Arizona State
Alabama favored by 9.5 vs. LSU
Alabama favored by 3 at Mississippi State
Ohio State favored by 5.5 vs. Michigan State
TCU favored by 1 at Oklahoma
Oregon favored by 5 vs. USC
Ole Miss favored by 5 vs. LSU
TCU favored by 5.5 vs. Baylor
Florida State favored by 2 at Florida
Ohio State favored by 9.5 at Michigan
USC favored by 4 vs. UCLA
Alabama favored by 2 at Auburn
Mississippi State favored by 2.5 vs. Ole Miss
Navy favored by 9.5 vs. Army, in Philadelphia

Bama is 12 points better than Ole Miss....and Ole Miss is 5 points better than LSU?

Not sure why Oregon is +3 vs. Michigan State...yet Michigan State is only -3.5 to Michigan.

If that Army line was 10 vs. Navy, I'd put a little down on Army. They are an improved team.

8 road favorites. 2 neutral fields.

CoachCB said:

Bama is 12 points better than Ole Miss....and Ole Miss is 5 points better than LSU?

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when you toss in Bama -9.5 vs LSU it looks even stranger (vs -12 for Miss)

essentially LSU is a field goal better than Ole Miss h2h vs Bama but +5 vs supposedly a lesser team? that's one heck of a home field advantage being added on for the rebs

5 Dimes is getting desperate. They have been for 3 years now. Alabama is a great fade with those odds. I also like Oregon -1 1/2 at Arizona State.

I'm just happy OU still has a few games that are considered "major" (ha!). How things have changed in one year in the Big 12. Last year at this time OU was a double digit favorite over every opponent on their schedule. So these early lines are mostly about perception based on last season. Taking Baylor +10 and TCU +11 was easy money for me last year. I think I'm going to take TCU -1 at OU and middle it later. I'm still not sure what to make of Texas +5 against OU. But if I have to prognosticate on this game, I would say don't be surprised if Texas is favored by the time these two meet. Texas has a brutal early schedule, which is probably why Vegas set their over/under of total wins at 6.5. Before they even get to the Red River Shootout they have to play at Notre Dame, Cal, OSU and at TCU. In all my years I've never seen Texas play that kind of schedule before playing OU. They'll have some tough sledding early on, but if they stay healthy I tend to lean towards the team that is battle tested.

BigdaddyQH said:

Go, if these lines have any validity at all, there is NOT going to be a big shift one way of the other. There rarely is. The books know exactly what the parameters of each game are. I will defer judgement until I see the Nugget's GOY lines, but I can almost guarantee you that Texas will be the dog against OU.

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It's hard to say what your going to get with the Big 12. Every year 5Dimes has proved that they can be way off with their early lines. Last year OU went from -11 vs TCU to -3 by kickoff. And they went from -10 vs Baylor and closed at -5. Those are touchdown swings. So against UT don't be surprised if the line isn't OU -5 by kickoff. Much of it will depend on what OU does vs Tennessee and how competitive Texas is against Notre Dame, Cal and TCU. The reason I don't really want to touch the game this early is because both teams will be rolling out new offensive schemes. Texas doesn't really have a QB. And I don't know how well Swoopes or Heard will take to their new scheme. OU will more than likely start Mayfield. I have a feeling with him he's either going to be a boom or a bust. If he's not starting in the 4th week of the season OU will probably be in trouble, and this Texas line could shoot way down to a pickem or so.. It all depends on an OL which lost most of their longtime starters. I think Texas will have a better defense than OU despite their loss of some key players. Strong is a very good defensive coach, and will have them playing well by mid season or sooner. Trouble is UT's offensive coordinator is on about the same level as Josh Huepel was at OU. So I don't have much faith in the Horns offense. When it comes to these futures, I have a rule that I don't bet against 2nd year coaches. Once they have their team and schemes in place you never what your going to get in the second year. I've seen many teams greatly improve when they weren't supposed to. Texas still has plenty of talent, especially on defense. Their big problem has always been the players attitudes before Strong arrived..

rolltide said:

when you toss in Bama -9.5 vs LSU it looks even stranger (vs -12 for Miss)

essentially LSU is a field goal better than Ole Miss h2h vs Bama but +5 vs supposedly a lesser team? that's one heck of a home field advantage being added on for the rebs

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Yes, very odd lines there RT.

I think if FSU gets the QB position figured out, they'll be a potential playoff team. I'm going to watch their lines early.

bigjunkyQH still waiting for the money lines :missingte

rolltide said:

bigjunkyQH still waiting for the money lines :missingte

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At least I have the money to wager on them. Not like some poor transplanted slob like yourself. I will fade Alabama in every one of the games listed here. Put up or shut up boy. Name your price homer. Of course you will not because you can not afford to lose. You are nothing but a fraud who thinks he knows something about football. So what's it going to be, big mouth. Are you willing to take Alabama and give the points in those 5 games? Talk to me homer.

BigdaddyQH said:

At least I have the money to wager on them. Not like some poor transplanted slob like yourself. I will fade Alabama in every one of the games listed here. Put up or shut up boy. Name your price homer. Of course you will not because you can not afford to lose. You are nothing but a fraud who thinks he knows something about football. So what's it going to be, big mouth. Are you willing to take Alabama and give the points in those 5 games? Talk to me homer.

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says the guy that disappears during actual betting season and reappears once the games are done. Shush()*

love the dudes like you that need to impress forum guys you will never meet but how much money you make which is signal #1 you can barely pay your internet bill. you have no clue what my W2 was but it doesn't matter because that $28,750 you really pulled in last year greeting folks at WalMart can take a backseat due to your internet bravado.

let's bet on your 2014 tax return...far more interesting

GoSooners said:

It's hard to say what your going to get with the Big 12. Every year 5Dimes has proved that they can be way off with their early lines. Last year OU went from -11 vs TCU to -3 by kickoff. And they went from -10 vs Baylor and closed at -5. Those are touchdown swings. So against UT don't be surprised if the line isn't OU -5 by kickoff. Much of it will depend on what OU does vs Tennessee and how competitive Texas is against Notre Dame, Cal and TCU. The reason I don't really want to touch the game this early is because both teams will be rolling out new offensive schemes. Texas doesn't really have a QB. And I don't know how well Swoopes or Heard will take to their new scheme. OU will more than likely start Mayfield. I have a feeling with him he's either going to be a boom or a bust. If he's not starting in the 4th week of the season OU will probably be in trouble, and this Texas line could shoot way down to a pickem or so.. It all depends on an OL which lost most of their longtime starters. I think Texas will have a better defense than OU despite their loss of some key players. Strong is a very good defensive coach, and will have them playing well by mid season or sooner. Trouble is UT's offensive coordinator is on about the same level as Josh Huepel was at OU. So I don't have much faith in the Horns offense. When it comes to these futures, I have a rule that I don't bet against 2nd year coaches. Once they have their team and schemes in place you never what your going to get in the second year. I've seen many teams greatly improve when they weren't supposed to. Texas still has plenty of talent, especially on defense. Their big problem has always been the players attitudes before Strong arrived..

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outside of Kansas, anyone can beat anyone on a weekend...

ground hog11 said:

outside of Kansas, anyone can beat anyone on a weekend...

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I'm going to take the under 1.5 wins for Kansas. They'll be putrid this year. I don't think they'll beat anybody in the Big 12. Their only realistic chance at any win this season will be South Dakota. But I only give KU about a 50% chance of winning that game. Weis really ruined that program for at least the next couple of years. To give you some idea how bad that program is right now, their game tickets at StubHub start at $8!

GoSooners said:

I'm going to take the under 1.5 wins for Kansas. They'll be putrid this year. I don't think they'll beat anybody in the Big 12. Their only realistic chance at any win this season will be South Dakota. But I only give KU about a 50% chance of winning that game. Weis really ruined that program for at least the next couple of years. To give you some idea how bad that program is right now, their game tickets at StubHub start at $8!

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I think they only win 1 game...

5 intriguing lines/games to me that really stand out.....

1) Michigan state -3 vs Oregon: first off I'm an Oregon fan so yes a lot of people expect me to lean this way but let me confirm why. The ducks may have lost mariota but they have an absurd amount of talent on offense this season, more than ever. The qb situation may seem questionable to most but not to me. It will be and should be Vernon Adams. He is electric and a playmaker. Lockie is a phenomenal team guy but not a leader on the field. If they go wth lockie I hope to god he makes me eat my words and prices everyone wrong, don't get me wrong he's capable but not a physical stud. Giving Oregon a fg seems rather dangerous to me. I understand the home field advantage and the revenge factor playing into this game, but if you're telling me sparty is only a fg better than Oregon AT HOME, then I'm taking my ducks to fly high here. I'm an Oregon fan and that's biased I know, but I truly believe they will shock a lot of people this game and hold on for a good win of 3-7 points. If the ducks young defense can bait cook into a few bad throws like they did last year they could win by double digits again. OREGON COVERS

2) Alabama -1 vs Georgia : really confused how the departure of Todd Gurley helps the dogs here....??? -1? Seems like a trap game but I don't think it is. It's Alabama at home with the better running back in dereck Henry. Nick Chubb is very good but he's not Todd Gurley, not even Henry, so I don't see this being anything less than a 10 point win for bama. Moving on ALABAMA COVERS

3) TCU -5.5 vs Baylor: no one plays defense on either of these teams, NO ONE......TCU is looking at some lofty expectations from the college football world and the big 12 is filled with offenses that can score in a hurry, eventually bad defense catches up to you in the most Inopportune times. TCU may win but remember they barely beat WVU last year and Lost to Baylor. These types of games they don't do well in, so -5.5 seems rather high to me. I'd take Baylor at +3 but +5.5 is even more enticing. BAYLOR COVERS

4) Ohio state -5.5 vs Michigan state: this is turning into a bigger rivalry than most people see.... Sparty got embarrassed by the Buckeyes last year. Very big revenge game with more motivation than one could imagine, expect a physical bloodbath. I'm seeing a weird game fueled by defense and special teams that produces an odd score of 26-24 Ohio state. SPARTY COVERS

5) Oregon -5 vs USC : this game worries me mightily. On one hand I've always said Steve sarkisian is the coach who can't win big games, but on the other Cody Kessler and the USC offense are extremely talented. I'd like to see Oregon boat race USC but I know it won't happen, USC has the firepower to go toe-to-toe with Oregon and match every score. -5 seems high to me, in a rare Oregon game decided by a fg I think Oregon wins 45-42. TROJANS COVER



just my outlook. Glad to see everyone back and posting again. Have a good summer everyone. 95 days or so until kickoff!