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[h=1]Max Silver Talks Aria $25K High Roller VIII Win and $125 Nightly Party Crasher[/h]
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<section class="relArticles" data-ga="related articles|old layout"> [h=3]Related Articles[/h] </section> </aside> What would you do if you bought into a $125 buy-in nightly tournament and found yourself seated in a $25,000 high roller? Would you say anything? Maybe try to freeroll your way into a six-figure score? On Friday night, one player apparently tried to do the latter.
While amateurs packed the Rio All-Suite Hotel and Casino for The Colossus event, some of poker's bigger names headed over to Aria, which is where one of their regular one-day $25,000 High Roller tournaments was being held. All was par for the course, until a mystery interloper, whom the forums have dubbed "Curly," crashed the party.
"Seven hours into this $25k tourney and a player was just escorted out," Justin Bonomo tweeted. "He paid for the $125 tourney, got the wrong ticket, and kept quiet. The player had a lot of chips when he was disqualified. Chips removed from play after a few orbits of blinding down."
PokerTelegraph was live reporting the event, and briefly touched upon the situation explaining that the cage issued the mystery player an incorrect seating card. The player then took his seat and proceeded to play for many hours before the cage discovered the error, the result of a prize pool discrepancy.
"As soon as the error was discovered, the player and his chips were removed from play, and the player is now likely to be barred from MGM properties," PokerTelegraph reported.
Despite "Curly" busting three players – Tom Marchese, Jason Mercier, and Jake Schindler — during his high roller foray, the tournament, which had attracted 41 entries and created a prize pool of $1,023,360, proceeded as scheduled. It was a controversial ruling with many forum members suggesting the Aria should have either cancelled the tournament, issued refunds, or ate the difference.
In the end, the aforementioned Schindler, who had reentered, ended up making money by finishing in third place for $147,600, while UK's Max Silver and online star Dong Kim battled it out in heads-up play.
According to PokerTelegraph, the final hand came when Kim shoved his stack all in from the button and Silver snap-called.
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Silver was ahead, and he maintained the lead after the board ran out a safe
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. With that, Silver became the Aria $25,000 High Roller VIII champ.
Final Table Results
PlacePlayerPrize
1Max Silver$432,960
2Dong Kim$246,000
3Jake Schindler$147,600
4Conner Drinan$78,720
5Dan Shak$49,200
6Did Not Report$29,520

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PokerNews actually caught up with Silver during the 2015 World Series of Poker to talk about the controversy, his big win, and more.
PokerNews: How did it feel to win the Aria High Roller?
Silver: Great. Definitely different than any other kind of win I've had before in terms of normally it's a multi-day experience. To have it all done in one day was kind of surreal. I guess it hasn't really sunk in yet. Obviously I'm absolutely delighted, really happy.
Was that the first $25K you played there?
That was my first one at the Aria. You can just show up and play as long as you have $25,000, or in this case $125 [laughs].
Lets talk about that. What exactly happened?
I was on his first table actually. He came a bit late and just sat down. Seemed to be just a recreational player, which I assumed played pretty loose. He won quite a few pots off me early on. Then we got moved, he was also at my second table. He busted Jake Schindler aces versus kings.
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<figcaption>Jake Schindler</figcaption></figure> After that I got moved off his table. I then heard some commotion from the other table. I didn't see it firsthand, but other players told me basically security came and said they would like a word. Apparently he seemed to already know what was up. He seemed like he was ready to go. They then removed his chips from the table and he was gone.
In your opinion, or from what you heard from other players, do you think this player knew he was playing in the wrong event?
I don't necessarily know his intention in the first place, but he had to of known once he sat down. There was no way he couldn’t have worked it out, but I guess when you're playing a $125 buy-in, which is pretty small, and you're suddenly given a chance to a huge freeroll, there's a pretty big upside to staying on, so I understand why he did it.
Rumor has it he was going to get barred from MGM properties. Do you feel that's a fair punishment?
Yeah, I think it's fair. What he did was definitely, at the very least, unethical. For sure I think a ban is in order. Whether or not anything is going to happen in terms of legal, I'm not sure.
What was the reaction of the other players after this went down?
I didn't hear anything about the tournament being tainted. I didn't hear anyone say it should be cancelled. I guess it was more the guys who kind of got messed over, like Schindler who busted and reentered. I think those are the players who have the most call for conversation.
At the very least the money should be put into the prize pool or given to those three busted players in some way because it's pretty unfortunate to be busted by a player who shouldn't be there in the first place.
There is another $25K scheduled for Saturday night, is that right?
There is. I managed to have probably the worst night's sleep in my life, which was strange considering I was really happy, but I just slept really badly. I decided if I wasn't playing on my A game, I wouldn't show up. There are awesome players in there, and if you're not going to play well, it's not worth it. I decided to take it easy, take a nap, and play The Colossus.
Any chance we'll see you play the $500,000 buy-in Super High Roller at the Aria later this summer?
Not right now ,but if you're rich and have some money, come find me and I'm sure we can work something out.
You've now got a big score right at the beginning of the summer. Granted, it's not a WSOP event, but still a great way to start, no?
Yeah, it's a pretty good feeling knowing that pretty much whatever you do you can't lose money this summer. That's a pretty great feeling.
On Saturday, Bonomo updated the poker community revealing that the three busted players would be receiving some sort of compensation:


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[h=1]Player Enters $125 Poker Tournament, Accidentally Gets Seated In $25K Buy-In, Knocks Out Top Pros[/h] [h=2]Aria Ends Up Disqualifying Player, Compensating Pros For Mistake[/h]
by Brian Pempus | Published: Jun 01, 2015 | E-mail Author




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While the World Series of Poker was running the largest live event in poker history, Aria Resort and Casino on the Strip was hosting a $25,000 buy-in tournament that catered to some of the game’s top professionals. It just so happened that one of the “entrants” was seated by mistake after registering for a different, $125 buy-in daily tournament.
According to poker pro Justin Bonomo, it took a handful of hours before the mistake was noticed, and the player who got in for the huge discount actually ended up busting several players in the $25,000 buy-in.
One on of them was Thomas Marchese.
Fortunately, the player who wasn’t supposed to be there didn’t end up cashing.
When the mistake was noticed, the player was removed from the event, along with his chips, Bonomo said. The poker pro added that Aria compensated players for the mistake.
Max Silver ended up winning the tournament for a payout of $432,000. He beat Dong Kim heads-up. Jake Schindler finished third. The event drew more than 30 players.
Aria held a second $25,000 buy-in the following day, and that one was won by Andrew Lichtenberger who defeated Erik Seidel heads-up for $398,000.
 
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[h=3]What now?[/h]This extremely unusual happening naturally led to a big discussion on Two Plus Two forums as to what would be the best way to go about the whole thing. Clearly, there was a player at the tables who shouldn't have been there and he influenced the game in a big way as

  • He eliminated three players who actually paid $25k to play
  • Substantial amount of chips was removed from play when he was disqualified
Quite a few solutions were suggested, from those extreme that would see the entire tournament void, to those saying that the only affected party in this case was a casino and as long as they covered the missing $25,000, the tournament should be played out as it is.
Making the entire tournament void is certainly not a realistic option. On the other hand, as one poster noted, this situation was similar to a referee mistake in any sport. It happened, someone was possibly damaged, but there isn't much that can be done about it, as long as the missing money is made up for.
The 'referee' comparison actually does make the most sense, but there are a few factors to consider that complicate this situation further. For one, this guy, whoever he is, was basically playing a freeroll, while everyone else put up $25,000 for their seats. That, combined with the fact that he probably knew he wouldn't get paid in the end (one would imagine) might have significantly influenced his play and made him relaxed.
On the flip-side of that theory, said player was likely at a big disadvantage playing in the $25k event and, as some posters emphasized, pros would be probably be all too happy to rid this guy of his chips. He probably happened to run very well and that resulted in three (painful) knockouts.
[h=3]Aria decision[/h]Any of the numerous proposed solutions has its upsides and downside (or most of them at least), but given how highly unusual this situation is, it is hard to say what's right thing to do. According to Bonomo's Twitter, Aria decided to reimburse the eliminated player, although they will not get the full amounts back, but rather something in the region of $3,000 - $5,000.
[h=3]What of a guy?[/h]An even bigger and more interesting question for most of us is what happens with a 'curly haired guy'. According to the reports, he was not only disqualified from the tournament, but also received a lifetime ban from the Aria properties.
This decision created a whole different discussion in the same thread, as some believed the ruling to be unfair. Is it a realistic possibility that this player simply did not realize that he was sitting in the $25k tournament instead of a $125 one and it was an honest mistake.
Of course it is possible, but it doesn't seem likely, even if he was in Las Vegas for the first time. The topic of buy-in must have come up at least once during the seven-hour period and if he simply decided to keep quiet about it, then the punishment doesn't seem that harsh at all.
On the other hand, as some posters have noted, paying $125 to play with some of the biggest names in poker could well be worth it, even if you stand no chance to win the money. Whether it is worth getting yourself banned is another story, but one thing is certain - this guy will have one hell of a story to tell in his home game.
 
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yeah it is. reading thread at 2+2 they have some crazy thoughts on what should have been done.

It's a tough one to remedy, because (as some others have mentioned), the guy is effectively on a free-roll, and would play a lot different than
someone who had $25K at stake. So, the 3 players that got knocked out have a legitimate gripe, as does anyone else that lost chips to him.
One could argue that the whole tournament is tainted.
 

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So what would you do FZ?


I bet this has happened before without anyone finding out about it.
 

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they would always find out about it. the drawer would be short when they count it down.


Ive played a tourney where that happened
 
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So what would you do FZ?


I bet this has happened before without anyone finding out about it.

If I was tournament director? Man, I guess I'd do what the Aria did... (kick the guy out, and give the 3 guys that he knocked out some kind of remuneration) but I still don't
see at as a just solution. I don't think there is an easy/fair way to completely remedy. What would you do?

Someone suggested the Aria put the money in to pay the rest of the guy's buy-in ($25K - $125), and let him keep playing. That doesn't seem right either.
 

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It might have been better for the casino to put up the 25K and keep quiet.
 

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entry fee?

Less then 200 but it was a rebuY
It was down to the last table and someone realized there were more chips in play the the prize pool
 

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It might have been better for the casino to put up the 25K and keep quiet.

Thats what I would have done if I owned it.

I would also tell the guy if he cashed he only gets half the winnings and if he has a problem with that you get nothing
 
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If I was tournament director? Man, I guess I'd do what the Aria did... (kick the guy out, and give the 3 guys that he knocked out some kind of remuneration) but I still don't
see at as a just solution. I don't think there is an easy/fair way to completely remedy. What would you do?

Someone suggested the Aria put the money in to pay the rest of the guy's buy-in ($25K - $125), and let him keep playing. That doesn't seem right either.

That would just encourage same behavior from other players... the tournament is tainted no matter what, affected players should be refunded the entire buy in cause in the end is a verification issue of the casino... when you enter a tourney you should show the buy in slip before receiving the card that tells you where you should sit. Its also the 1st dealer responsibility if he went and showed the receipt and the dumb bell didn't notice, which is likely what happened.
 

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That would avoid the PR mess, but if that info got out later, would be hell.
I'm not sure.

If (IF) it happens to get out later, I'm sure the casino could argue that there was no stipulation on WHO paid the entry fee.

Of course I would make him sign a Confidentiality Agreement.
 

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That would just encourage same behavior from other players... the tournament is tainted no matter what, affected players should be refunded the entire buy in cause in the end is a verification issue of the casino... when you enter a tourney you should show the buy in slip before receiving the card that tells you where you should sit. Its also the 1st dealer responsibility if he went and showed the receipt and the dumb bell didn't notice, which is likely what happened.

he had correct receipt
 

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casino screwed it up

they should compensate the guys who got knocked out in some way
 

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