Obviously on the sauce Bonds is like the best ever. Pre-sauce I'd still take Bonds. Griffey better power hitter but Bonds OBP was consistently .20-.50 higher than his looking at the #s. During that time period that wasn't as valued so Griffey was known as the best player until the roiding started but looking back I'd say Bonds was more valuable.
Agree
Before Bonds ever used any steroids he won three MVPs, was the best player in the league a fourth year (1991) when the voters were complete idiots, and twice he was one of the best clean players in the league while a drug user won the award (96 and 98)
Bonds unquestionably had a better career than Griffey. Bonds WAR through 1998: 99.6. Griffey WAR through his entire career: 83.6
And just because Bonds was on drugs from 1999 on doesn't mean those hits, walks, and home runs didn't happen and that they didn't help the Giants
This is a tough call,it really is.
I`m taking Bond`s bullshit PED`s into consideration.
Junior was a heck of a player and football player to boot.
Every time I look at Bond`s 2001 stat of 73 HR`s :youmad:.......I say what a fucking cheater.......Nobody can hit 73 HR`s on natural talent alone....No way.
I`ll be the only 1 who votes for Junior.
I`m taking Bond`s bullshit PED`s into consideration.
Junior was a heck of a player and football player to boot.
Every time I look at Bond`s 2001 stat of 73 HR`s :youmad:.......I say what a fucking cheater.......Nobody can hit 73 HR`s on natural talent alone....No way.
I`ll be the only 1 who votes for Junior.
Definally run better on the bases.
Better D Griff gets the slight nod when healthy partly due to the stronger throwing arm but not by much.
Both won gold gloves. Not much separation either way but bonds was the superior base runner And not even close.
Bonds was better in the field than Griffey? Wow. Griffey is perhaps the finest defensive outfield in the history of the game. Take into consideration all the ground he covered and balls he ran down that Bonds would never have gotten to. Griffey played the far superior position. Tracked balls down because of his speed. No way.
Superior base runner? Ok Chop.
