Benching Johnny Manziel (again) was the only move for the Cleveland Browns ... Agree ??

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The Cleveland Browns announced Wednesday morning on Twitter that Josh McCown, now cleared from the concussion he suffered in Week 1, would resume his role as the team’s starting quarterback, knocking the historic Johnny Manziel back to QB2, a decision sure to cause controversy in Cleveland and launch 1,000 segments on First Take.





Why take out Manziel, who won his first start this season, has been a reliable deep threat and has a better quarterback rating than Tony Romo, Russell Wilson and Peyton Manning? Well, whether through dumb luck or great foresight, Cleveland made the right move. McCown had to regain his job and Manziel needed to go back to the bench. It was the only move to make.
The Browns want Johnny Manziel to be their quarterback of the future. But, with a team that still isn’t ready for primetime, minus the occasional Travis Benjamin highlight, putting in Manziel now is essentially setting him up to fail. If he were made the starting quarterback in late September, there’s a high likelihood he’d be back on the bench in mid-October because of a failure to produce. Some of that would be his fault, a lot of it would be because of his supporting cast. The clamoring for the 36-year-old John McCown would get deafening and Mike Pettine would have no choice but to cave to a decision he already made in the preseason. (And that’s not to be underestimated either: Pettine had already decided this on his starter this year.)


It’s better for things to play out the other way. Let McCown play this season. Give Manziel another year to develop, something that used to happen to young quarterbacks until some broke out early and made the rest of the NFL want to see if their rookies could do it too. Sure, Manziel might be forced to play if McCown is completely ineffective or gets hurt again (both possibilities) but, if that happens, at least Browns management can throw up their hands and say “hey, we tried!” Then they can blame Manziel’s theoretical ineffectiveness on having no option but to throw him to the wolves (the wolves in this case being the Ravens defense).


Johnny Manziel needs all the time on the bench the Browns can afford. He’ll be better for it, growing both personally and professionally every week. Let McCown play his season, pay him off his (cheap) guaranteed money in 2016, then start the Manziel experiment anew. The NFL is all about now, now now. Sometimes, waiting is the best play.
 

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I'm a firm believer in letting NFL rookies take their lumps early on so you can find out in 3 years if they're gonna make it or not...
 

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I agree...It's Game 3 not game 10. It also USED TO BE that you didn't lose your job because of injury. When you're healthy you come back in. I would say that should be the case "most" of the time. Certainly not all the time though. Anyways McCown should be put back in as the starter. That was his position two weeks ago. Nothing's changed since then.

If McCown is sucking big time like 6 or 7 weeks down the road, then I'd probably put Manziel in and let him have the experience for the 2nd half of the year. This team is easily two years away from being a major contender. I think they know that. Sit him and let him learn. He won't like it, but it will help him.

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Benching him after week 2 is just wrong...does Cleveland really want to win? Can't believe that McCown is the answer....

Let the kid play, he is not a rookie anymore...
 

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McCown will be on a pretty short leach. Johnny will be inserted if McCown falters.

Just can't see Johnny (a running qb) go thru the entire season without getting injured.
 
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McCown will be on a pretty short leach. Johnny will be inserted if McCown falters.

Just can't see Johnny (a running qb) go thru the entire season without getting injured.

McCown tried to Run, and see what happened to him. LOL

IMO Johnny will be back in under Center within 2 weeks
 

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who the fuck is Josh McCown?

36 year old career backup for a reason
 

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Going McCown when you are rebuilding seems pointless but tough to bench a guy who is this committed to the cause.....

I think he watched that Al Pacino speech from "Any Given Sunday" too many times...

"Life is a game of inches, so is football"

He was really fighting for those inches....

 

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The Reason why I think McCown is starting so the Browns can justify the free agent signing as they have made some bad moves either drafting players who have been busts or free agent signings.Look at the Dwayne Bowe who is making 9 million this year and 12.5 million for the contract they signed him to and isnt doing a damn thing so far.How Ray Farmer as the GM has a job is beyond me with the lack of drafting play makers on offense is a joke.This team isnt going anywhere so play Johnny see what have and if he doesnt pan out you have a rich QB draft next year and can start yet again a rebuiding program as you cant win with a QB that is 36 years old and he is going to turn the franchise and make the Browns a winner i dont think so. Welcome to Cleveland !
 
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Al Davis is alive. He has been reincarnated as Ray Farmer or Jimmy Haslem. The coaches only do this to save their own ass. McCown is borderline retired and Manziel sucks. Play Manziel, let him fail and draft another qb next year. You can set records. Most 1st round qb busts in the last 7 years. Quinn, Weeden, Manziel
 

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Dealing with 2 back-up QB`s.....No win situation.
 

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we know one guy is a bum, the other one is still young

line widely opened at 4.5, now 3
 

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Could not disagree more. This is Josh McCown we're talking about, a career backup/stiff. Manziel should have been the starter game 1 if he was healthy, and should be the starter now, and should only lose the job through injury. He gives them the best chance to win now, and more importantly, the best chance to win later. This is why The Browns are and will continue to be The Browns, settling for mediocrity or worse at the QB position. Maybe they should resign Brady Quinn again and put him in there when McCown is invariably McCown, instead of going with the young guy with at least some potential, who can make things happen with his arm and legs. :ohno:
 
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Play Manziel for the rest of the year. See what you have. Not like you have a chance in hell of making the playoffs with McCown. Probably don't with Manziel either but at least you have 15 games to judge him instead of all the other BS.
 

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http://deadspin.com/mike-pettine-says-he-didnt-realize-how-bad-johnny-manzi-1747113223

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Johnny Manziel will get the start for Cleveland against the 49ers on Sunday, and the job is his for the remainder of the season if he can hang on to it. Of course, that’s what we thought three weeks ago, before some bye-week partying put him back on the bench.
Head coach Mike Pettine said today the team didn’t realize just how much Manziel’s drinking would affect the Browns when they made the call to draft him.
“You see the reputation, what was out there,” he said of pre-draft analysis. “I don’t think we anticipated that his problems, his issues, how deep-rooted they were, the extent of it.”
Everyone wants to dance around what those problems are—Pettine can’t even bring himself to say “alcohol” or “drinking”—because alcoholism is a medical diagnosis and one that Manziel hasn’t publicly acknowledged. But that’s what we’re all talking about here. He’s gone to counseling for alcohol and anger issues (and did so before he went pro). He’s gone to rehab. His father says he uses alcohol to deal with stress. He lied about his drinking, and told his friends to lie about it. He’s let drinking interfere with his work. These are signs of alcohol dependence.
Now, it can be tough to tell the difference between a budding alcoholic and a hard-partying college student. (And that’s if you don’t consider college binge drinking a form of functional alcoholism in itself.) But the reason those in and around sports have tiptoed around putting a label on Manziel’s issues is because most of society still considers alcoholism a failing of both morals and willpower, even if, intellectually, we know it’s an addiction and formally a mental health disorder.
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[h=6]Why Can't Skip Bayless Say Johnny Football Has A Drinking Problem?[/h]In case you missed it, everyone's getting pissed at Skip Bayless for calling Johnny Football…some nexus of our puritanical roots, our uncommon-sense policies toward substance abuse, and general deficiencies in mental health awareness—is what makes Manziel’s very real problems something that can’t be spoken of in polite company. It led the Browns to delude themselves about the impact of Manziel’s off-field choices, it leads fans and media to treat it as a running joke, and it leads the league to have no infrastructure in place to help him deal with those issues.



</aside>The Browns’ only tactic is a public threat: get caught drinking again and you’re done.
“If something were to occur, I imagine the repercussions would be harsh,” Pettine said.
I don’t know what the answer is here. Addiction can be pernicious and overwhelming and sometimes simply can’t be treated or counseled away. I do know the answer almost certainly isn’t to repeatedly order Manziel not to relapse, expect him to comply, waive him if he does it one too many times to countenance ... and then watch as he ends up with the Cowboys. “Getting tough”—one more strike and you’re out—is a ludicrous and objectively ineffective way of dealing with an employee’s substance abuse. A good start would be for the Browns and observers to acknowledge that Manziel isn’t doing something wrong when he’s off the wagon—and that he’s not automatically healthy when he’s on it.
 

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I have hard time believing the article above. If coach doesn't want you to be the starting qb he will find a reason to not make you the starting qb.
 

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