Pope Francis Suggests Donald Trump Is ‘Not Christian’ - because of the harshness of his campaign promises to deport more immigrants and force Mexico t

5teamparlay · Feb 18, 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/world/americas/pope-francis-donald-trump-christian.html?_r=0

Americas[h=1]Pope Francis Suggests Donald Trump Is ‘Not Christian’[/h]By JIM YARDLEY<time class="dateline" content="2016-02-18" datetime="2016-02-18" itemprop="datePublished">FEB. 18, 2016</time>
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</aside>“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian,” Francis said when a reporter asked him about Mr. Trump on the papal airliner as he returned to Rome after his six-day visit to Mexico.
The pope’s remarks came during a wide-ranging, midair news conference in which he also waded into the question of whether the Roman Catholic Church should grant an exception to its prohibitions on abortion and birth control in regions where the Zika virus is causing a public health emergency, including in much of Catholic-dominated Latin America.
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</aside>Researchers say pregnant women are especially at risk, noting that the virus may be responsible for a spike in cases of microcephaly, a condition in which newborns have unusually small heads and brains.
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festeringZit · Feb 18, 2016

The pope is a clown.

TheComputerGroup · Feb 18, 2016

The pope is part of a secret society, & backs the corps & groups that have total control over this earth........he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Samhain · Feb 18, 2016

The Computer Group said:
he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Bingo!

Iutoffee · Feb 18, 2016

Trump has a tax proposal that would increase the deficit by $10 trillion and also insults the Pope. Who wouldn't vote for him?

Greenbacks · Feb 18, 2016

Greenbacks · Feb 18, 2016

This week you had the 2 most powerful people in the world bashing Trump....Obama 2 days ago and now the Pope.

Yeah,we know what`s up.

JustinCruise · Feb 18, 2016

festeringZit said:
The pope is a clown.

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

5teamparlay · Feb 18, 2016

TRUMP COULD MODEL HIS WALL AFTER THE POPES

arniesarmy · Feb 18, 2016

Well, there goes the Catholic vote. Put more money on the Democrats to win the presidential election. This is going to be easier money than the past two elections.

Mr_Mark · Feb 18, 2016

:toast: I was going to make a comment about the Vatican city call

5teamparlay said:
TRUMP COULD MODEL HIS WALL AFTER THE POPES

Gravy · Feb 18, 2016

Can somebody ask the pope on how we are suspose to pay for all these people crossing the border coming into this country ?

VIEJODINOSAUR · Feb 18, 2016

Gravy said:
Can somebody ask the pope on how we are suspose to pay for all these people crossing the border coming into this country ?

You really think building a wall will keep Mexicans out?

BTW, the Pope never called out Trump by name...

bilbal · Feb 18, 2016

5teamparlay said:
TRUMP COULD MODEL HIS WALL AFTER THE POPES

First thing I thought of when I heard the Pope's comment...the dude lives in an entirely walled city that is protected by guards! I guess the Pope isn't Christian.

Greenbacks · Feb 18, 2016

VIEJO DINOSAUR said:
You really think building a wall will keep Mexicans out?

BTW, the Pope never called out Trump by name...

bobbyjones2 · Feb 18, 2016

I suppose any organization whom covers up pedophilia for decades could also not be considered Christian or even decent for that matter.

TheComputerGroup · Feb 18, 2016

bobbyjones2 said:
I suppose any organization whom covers up pedophilia for decades could also not be considered Christian or even decent for that matter.

He's a hypocrite.....like saying, look who's calling the kettle black.

He shouldn't be saying Trump isn't a good Christian because he's trying to.protect our country...........last several presidents have f**ked up our country beyond repair, & Trump is trying to lessen the bleeding, & bring us back to something positive (or at least his speeches sound like it) & he's called a non Christian.for doing so.........if that's the case, Obama must be Satan.along with Bush.

Does everyone nI the world deserve a better life? Absolutely, but we must fix our own house problems before we can start helping outsiders.

Europe will have a lot of future problems with all those Syrian refugees entering......you just know terrorists are entering amongst those people.

silver7 · Feb 18, 2016

festeringZit said:
The pope is a clown.

BIH, along w/Hitchens!!!!

Michelangelo · Feb 18, 2016

The Pope is not a clown. The Pope cares about humanity with a focus on the poor. He is Pope of the world, not Mexico, or the United States or anywhere else. He should stick to the spiritual nature of man and how it can be improved but he wanders into the political too frequently.

He chastised the idea of building walls but linked that to the need to build bridges. He also laid into his host country, Mexico. But that part of the story gets bypassed for the sensational.

For Pope Francis, who ended his visit to Mexico on Wednesday (Feb. 17,) there were few topics or institutions too taboo to tackle. During his six-day stay, he took on drug trafficking, the government’s failure to provide economic opportunity, corruption, discrimination, human trafficking, and even employee exploitation.

His itinerary, a tour of places tattered by drug violence, and poverty, or both, already suggested that “el Papa Francisco,” as he is known in Spanish, was going to address Mexico’s biggest ills. But experts were surprised by the sharp focus on political and social issues, and his harsh tone. It’s a departure from the more spiritual approach taken by previous popes—and even by Pope Francis himself in the past.
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“He’s really taking off the gloves,” Andrew Chesnut, Chair in Catholic Studies at Virginia Commonwealth University, tells Quartz. “We haven’t seen him this prophetic and this outspoken in any of his previous national tours.”

In Ciudad Juárez, just a few years ago one of the deadliest places on earth, he compared Mexico to Nineveh, an ancient city “so used to degradation” that its inhabitants had lost all sensibility to pain.

“No more death, nor exploitation!” he said during a mass in the border city. “There’s always time to change.”

It’s unclear if his message will shake Mexicans into action, but hundreds of thousands were at least listening. More than 80% of the country’s population is Catholic, making it the second-biggestcongregation in the world after Brazil.
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Here are Pope Francis’s main qualms with Mexico:

The root of all evils

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Francis was the first pope to be received at Mexico’s National Palace, the seat of the executive power, but that didn’t stop him from criticizing his hosts. After graciously shaking president Enrique Peña Nieto’s hand, he essentially laid down the blame for the country’s biggest problems(link in Spanish) at the feet of its ruling class.
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Without naming any names, he said societies that benefit a few at the expense of many, breed “corruption, the drug trade, the exclusion of different cultures, violence and even human trafficking, kidnapping and death, causing suffering and putting a brake on development.”

He didn’t stop there, telling political and civic leaders they are responsible for helping every Mexican obtain “adequate housing, dignified work, food, real justice, effective security, and a safe and peaceful environment.” Later, in Juárez, he told the local business community to place more value on human than on mone
Don’t keep bad company

Authorities were not the only ones to get an earful from Pope Francis. In a speech in the state of Michoacán, another drug-trade hotspot, he urged young Mexicans to stay close to the church and away from drug cartels (Spanish), even if they seem like the best option amid a lack of job and education opportunities.
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“Jesus would never invite us to be hired assassins, instead he calls us to be disciples,” he said.

God, he told them, wants them to build communities and feel like citizens, the best defense against drug trafficking and its threats.

An apology owed

The pope also chided all Mexicans, including the church, for failing the country’s indigenous communities (Spanish), which remain the poorest in Mexico. Speaking in the southern state of Chiapas, where about a quarter (Spanish, pdf, pg. 9,) of the population is indigenous, he said the world has much to learn about their culture, but instead has “systematically and structurally” excluded them and snatched their lands.
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“How sad!” he said. “What good it would all do us to examine our conscience and say ‘Sorry!’”

A undeniable humanitarian crisis

The pope called attention the plight of thousands of immigrants who caravan through Mexico on their way to the US, “a road plagued with terrible injustices” including kidnapping and extortion.

“Not only do they suffer from poverty, but on top of that they suffer from these forms of violence,” he said during his last mass, celebrated next to Juárez’s border with El Paso, Texas.

Do your job

He saved his harshest words (Spanish) for the church itself, telling a cathedral full of bishops to stop infighting and focus on confronting drug trafficking—and its evil consequences.

The complexity and immense scale of the drug-cartel problem call for “prophetic courage,” he told them, and encouraged them be on the front lines to make Mexico “a land that doesn’t have to cry for men and women, young people and children that end up being destroyed at the hands of death traffickers.”

“Woe to you if you rest on laurels,” he told them.

The church’s rank-and-file (Spanish) also got scolded by Francis, who told them not to resign themselves to the violence, corruption, and human-rights violations that surround them by hiding behind church walls.
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Some gaping omissions

But for some in Mexico, the pope wasn’t tough (Spanish) enough. He didn’t talk about church sex-abuse scandals, including the case of Rev.Marcial Maciel, a now-deceased church leader who was a pedophile. And despite pleas for a papal audience from the relatives of 43 students who disappeared in the state of Guerrero, an incident that has become a symbol of the country’s security crisis, Francis declined (Spanish.) He left without mentioning the still-unresolved case.

barman · Feb 18, 2016

Until the Pope publicly denounces 21st century Prohibition he is giving a clear, defacto endorsement of the multi-billion dollar per year illegal drug cartels.

Pretty routine and in most aspects little different from most American politicians and policy makers. Cheer the "Drug War", empower the cartels and not return to Mexico for three, four years or more.

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