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Why is the FBI hell bent on Apple cracking open this terrorist phone and making it a legal battle? Honest question, "Doesn't the FBI have the capability to do that anyway?" Without Apple's help?
 

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Why is the FBI hell bent on Apple cracking open this terrorist phone and making it a legal battle? Honest question, "Doesn't the FBI have the capability to do that anyway?" Without Apple's help?

Yes they can, what the FBI wants is Apple to make it possible to get into anyone's phone at anytime.
 

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Yes they can, what the FBI wants is Apple to make it possible to get into anyone's phone at anytime.
Not to beat a dead horse but can't they do that anyways? Meaning, don't they or haven't they been doing that on their own? Since 9/11, I thought all the rules changed and their monitoring whomever they want, however they want.
 
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Not to beat a dead horse but can't they do that anyways? Meaning, don't they or haven't they been doing that on their own? Since 9/11, I thought all the rules changed and their monitoring whomever they want, however they want.

No... Apple has stuff encrypted on the phone, and it also has mechanisms in place that prevent decryption. I.e. if the FBI uses a brute-force password-guessing algorithm, the phone will permanently
lock them out given a sufficient number of wrong guesses.

What the FBI wants, is some sort of back-door method of turning off the mechanisms that prevent decryption.
 

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Not to beat a dead horse but can't they do that anyways? Meaning, don't they or haven't they been doing that on their own? Since 9/11, I thought all the rules changed and their monitoring whomever they want, however they want.
Land lines were for meta data, but not anymore, or at least according to the new law now. Looks like Rand was right about them eventually using the courts to get blanket warrants.
 
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"But as noted, the particular operating system installed on this phone does not allow Apple to bypass the passcode and decrypt the data. So the government wants to try bruteforcing the password without having the system auto-erase the decryption key and without additional time delays. To do this, it wants Apple to create a special version of its operating system, a crippled version of the firmware that essentially eliminates the bruteforcing protections, and install it on the San Bernardino phone. It also wants Apple to make it possible to enter password guesses electronically rather than through the touchscreen so that the FBI can run a password-cracking script that races through the password guesses automatically. It wants Apple to design this crippled software to be loaded into memory instead of on disk so that the data on the phone remains forensically sound and won’t be altered.
Note that even after Apple does all of this, the phone will still be locked, unless the government’s bruteforcing operation works to guess the password. And if Farook kept the iOS9 default requirement for a six-digit password, and chose a complex alpha-numeric combination for his password, the FBI might never be able to crack it even with everything it has asked Apple to do."


http://www.wired.com/2016/02/apples-fbi-battle-is-complicated-heres-whats-really-going-on/
 

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Ok, if Apple has all these layers and protections in place how on earth did my 15 year old, pimply faced nephew hack into my wife's and daughter's iPhone 6+? Their phones are literally months old. He was able to show us, (ON HIS PHONE)....all the features of my wife' SMS app and thumbed through her picture album off of her phone? He was also on my daughters Instagram page from his phone?? Nothing to hide as my wife and daughters don't do shit that others do on social media w/ their phones but it was astounding how easy it was for my nephew to show us this.

He did it to show us how far he's come as a programmer, but sh!t, that felt absolutely violating. He was a matter of fact about it too how easy it was.
 

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Ok, if Apple has all these layers and protections in place how on earth did my 15 year old, pimply faced nephew hack into my wife's and daughter's iPhone 6+? Their phones are literally months old. He was able to show us, (ON HIS PHONE)....all the features of my wife' SMS app and thumbed through her picture album off of her phone? He was also on my daughters Instagram page from his phone?? Nothing to hide as my wife and daughters don't do shit that others do on social media w/ their phones but it was astounding how easy it was for my nephew to show us this.

He did it to show us how far he's come as a programmer, but sh!t, that felt absolutely violating. He was a matter of fact about it too how easy it was.

Yep, but this isn't really what it's about. It about the fed telling a private company to make their software less secure.
 

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Ok, if Apple has all these layers and protections in place how on earth did my 15 year old, pimply faced nephew hack into my wife's and daughter's iPhone 6+? Their phones are literally months old. He was able to show us, (ON HIS PHONE)....all the features of my wife' SMS app and thumbed through her picture album off of her phone? He was also on my daughters Instagram page from his phone?? Nothing to hide as my wife and daughters don't do shit that others do on social media w/ their phones but it was astounding how easy it was for my nephew to show us this.

He did it to show us how far he's come as a programmer, but sh!t, that felt absolutely violating. He was a matter of fact about it too how easy it was.


DAYUM.

What is this kid's Stock Symbol?


I wanna invest in this kid.



fuggin kids nowadays.


smarter than the US Government.




setting the bar damn low I know but......tryin to stay on topic.
 
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Ok, if Apple has all these layers and protections in place how on earth did my 15 year old, pimply faced nephew hack into my wife's and daughter's iPhone 6+? Their phones are literally months old. He was able to show us, (ON HIS PHONE)....all the features of my wife' SMS app and thumbed through her picture album off of her phone? He was also on my daughters Instagram page from his phone?? Nothing to hide as my wife and daughters don't do shit that others do on social media w/ their phones but it was astounding how easy it was for my nephew to show us this.

He did it to show us how far he's come as a programmer, but sh!t, that felt absolutely violating. He was a matter of fact about it too how easy it was.


Simple answer. IOS 6 didnt have the decryption prevention mechanisms. They were added in 7 or 8.
 
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Simple answer. IOS 6 didnt have the decryption prevention mechanisms. They were added in 7 or 8.

I misread your post... Not sure why he was able to "hack" into the iPhone 6+... I'm guessing it's because the phone didn't have certain
encryption/password features turned on.
 

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Doubtful he hacked into an encrypted phone. It would take McAfee level hacking ability to do that.

Kid is overrated
 
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Given you spend your life on this board Zit I'd imagine you've got enough time to be half as good. You can probably even YouTube it.

Youtubed what, and 1/2 as good as what?

I'm a software developer at one of the top software security firms in the industry, but I guess your nephew (that claims to have "hacked" something the FBI and
encryption experts can't) is the man (he's full of shit BTW).

BTW, I just recently came back to the board after taking 2 months off, so not sure WTf you're blathering about.
 

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Youtubed what, and 1/2 as good as what?

I'm a software developer at one of the top software security firms in the industry, but I guess your nephew (that claims to have "hacked" something the FBI and
encryption experts can't) is the man (he's full of shit BTW).

BTW, I just recently came back to the board after taking 2 months off, so not sure WTf you're blathering about.

hey no need to prove your worth Zit. Nobody cares.
 

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Doubtful he hacked into an encrypted phone. It would take McAfee level hacking ability to do that.

Kid is overrated

And he offered to do it too.
 

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Yawn. You make some idiotic remark, and when I respond you claim I'm trying to "prove my worth."

Stop being such a little bitch.
LOL nothing's changed Zit After all these years it still doesn't take much to rattle you.
 

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Bill Gates & Facebooks Zuckerberg is on the feds sides & I wonder why?

These billionaires don't give a shit about the common mans lfreedoms......as long as these billionaires get richer, they could care less about the regular working man.
 

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