Adam LaRoche retired over White Sox's request to limit son in clubhouse.

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CHICAGO -- One thing not up for debate during a wild two days for the Chicago White Sox is the quality of the kid at the center of a saga that erupted between the team and veteran slugger Adam LaRoche.

Cases can be made for whether or not a 14-year-old’s presence in a Major League Baseball clubhouse should be unlimited, with restrictions, or not allowed at all.
There is no evidence, however, that LaRoche’s son, Drake, an aspiring third-generation baseball player, is anything but a respectful, appropriately confident, well-liked kid who was never anything but a delight to be around.

So why all the fuss? Why would the White Sox ask that LaRoche curtail the clubhouse visits by his son? And why would a veteran of 12 major league seasons choose the forfeiture of a $13 million salary as a way to make a stand?
Although the clubhouse is typically the domain of the players and manager, it was White Sox executive vice president Kenny Williams who made the request of LaRoche to reduce his son’s visits by half. How much did that play a role in what appears to be LaRoche’s decision to walk away with a year on his contract rather than limit his son’s presence?

Drake LaRoche, who is believed to participate in a combination of home schooling as well as traditional education, has been in White Sox camp in Arizona this spring every day that his dad has been there, according to statements Williams made to multiple outlets. So Williams made a request, and it turned out to be a not-so-simple one.

Williams reportedly told LaRoche that even half the visits by his son were too many, in his opinion, but he was willing to meet somewhere in the middle. Two days later, LaRoche apparently tendered his resignation, leaving a small fortune on the table.
In LaRoche’s defense, he also grew up as a kid in major league clubhouses. His father, Dave LaRoche, was a pitcher for 14 seasons, most notably six with the California Angels. So he knew from firsthand experience how valuable time in a major league clubhouse can be.

According to sources, LaRoche had asked after signing with the White Sox last winter if Drake could have clubhouse access, and that request was granted by White Sox manager Robin Ventura. Drake not only had his own uniform and spring training locker last year, but also had a locker in the White Sox clubhouse during the regular season.

At no point did Drake appear to be a distraction last season, and was in fact a welcome addition to the group. He played video games with players pregame, shagged balls during batting practice and was not one to draw attention to himself in the clubhouse, respecting the players’ space.

It is not known if management asked Ventura to change the access policy for LaRoche and his son. Williams, though, felt a change was in order.
In the defense of the front office, unlimited clubhouse for a family member is unprecedented. Visitors are frequent, even repeat visits from individuals, but unlimited visits are rare, if not unheard of.

Williams clearly felt that the team was put in position to clarify some kind of clubhouse policy. Williams said that family members were not being banned from visiting, or even participating in workouts; he just requested that it be dialed back some in the case of the LaRoche family.
Instead of compromise, Williams’ request was met with the equivalent of "I’m taking my ball and going home." Always a good teammate, forever accountable, LaRoche obviously felt this was an area where he would not bend.

The facts are that LaRoche did struggle offensively last year, his first with the White Sox, and he is dealing with more issues this year as back spasms have reduced his spring to a handful of games. There also were indications that the current roster construction would seriously limit his plate appearances.
In that respect, perhaps the request to limit his son’s visits was the final straw for the 36-year-old.

While the players in the clubhouse were supportive of Adam, and Ventura asked his slugger to take some time to cool off before making such a drastic decision, the front office should not be viewed as the bad guy here.
Drake LaRoche is a good kid, but what if somebody else wanted to bring in a brother, cousin, friend who wasn’t so respectful of the players’ space? Where would the White Sox be if they tell one player that his cousin had to go while outfitting a full locker for another player’s family member?

The sad part in all of it is that a 14-year-old kid got caught in the middle. Ideally, Drake knows that this wasn’t about him. He should know that his presence was appreciated by all and that the way he carries himself for a young man is commendable. The way he swings a bat at his age, you can hear yourself saying, “I knew him when.”

Instead, this was one side making a request of another, and somebody deciding that the request was so unreasonable, it wasn’t even worth settling with his presence this season, much less honoring his contractual commitment.

Adam LaRoche has signaled loud and clear that he is a family man. That part is commendable. But assuming we have all the facts in this case, a concept that does give you pause at a moment like this, the White Sox’s request was not all that unreasonable.

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Yeah let's have all players kids hang out with their parents occupying benches and lockers. Can you imagine the typical NBA player bringing all his kids to work? Let's say 14 players with 8 kids each. 32 kids lined up across the front row.
 

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LMFAO Bourn

Yeah let's have all players kids hang out with their parents occupying benches and lockers. Can you imagine the typical NBA player bringing all his kids to work? Let's say 14 players with 8 kids each. 32 kids lined up across the front row.
 

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now the kid will feel the burden of his dad quitting mlb early because of him..further he won't be able to watch his dad play EVEN if on TV.
 

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Dude is rich as shit now. $ doesnt really matter to him. Right or wrong gotta respect the guys ability to stick by his decision. And if anyone has the opinion of "gotta do whats good for the team" you can shut your trap bc any pro team out there is only out for themselves and could really give 2 shits about the players. And if they claim they do its strictly a PR stance.
 

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hamlet agreed 100pct about the team ..they are ruthless but my thing is that if you ask drake he would feel bad and say that he wants to watch his dad play.. further even if he dosnt say it , he will deff carry a burden of being the reason his dad retires.. we all respect the gesture , but its a weak thing to do.
 

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Dont take this the wrong way but... Who gives a shit what some kid thinks. When he his old enough to really understand whats going on (and/or play in the bigs like they hint at in the article) he will understand what was really going on and not give a shit about the decision his dad made.
 

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he's obviously a great dad , so I'm sure that he himself cares what his son thinks.. its an unnecessary burden
 

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Tough Situation.

Where does the line get drawn?

When there are 36 Kids running all over the Clubhouse & Stadiums?

Answer lies though, as far as this case goes, in the fact that Ventura agreed to letting the kid have access.

Do differently going forward if management desires but this is cut & dried, black & white simple.

LaRoche did the right thing. Especially since he himself grew up with access to the Clubhouse and this benefited him in life.

Bravo LaRoche.




Go talk to The DBacks Adam.
 

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I forgot to mention I dont think the kid should be allowed in the locker room at all.
 

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The Pros are not a day care center. Do it for 1 dad and why not the next? When does it stop? You know what really pisses me off? Curry briniging his daughter to the press conferences last year. WTF?? It's a distraction. Can you imagine if every athlete parent did it? It's fucking stupid. Leave your kids at home!!
 

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Just heard on mike and mike the sox were close to boycotting the game yesterday. This is turning into a weird story. I think it's a deeper issue, it sounds like a player vs upper management and the kid was just a catalyst.
 

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Laroche barely hit above the Mendoza line last year and he is walking away from 13 million for this season? He is probably doing the White Sox a huge favor.

I side with management here. It's one thing to bring your kid around once in awhile but not every day. Laroche put his kid in this situation, so any backlash the kid receives, blame the father for not reigning in his offspring. I guarantee not every member of the team wants some little turd running around the clubhouse and dugout every day.
 

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I forgot to mention I dont think the kid should be allowed in the locker room at all.

The Pros are not a day care center. Do it for 1 dad and why not the next? When does it stop? You know what really pisses me off? Curry briniging his daughter to the press conferences last year. WTF?? It's a distraction. Can you imagine if every athlete parent did it? It's fucking stupid. Leave your kids at home!!

3rd Generation. Pro Dad. Pro Dad. + thet last Pro Dad when he was a kid enjoyed Special Access.

This makes an exception because its an exceptional circumstance.

If your Dad balled and you ball and you grew up with Special Access your kid gets Special Access.




Heres an Illustration...

this Cat doesn't have to pay anything to perform or record this song......(same exact thing as this LaRoche deal & Steph Curry):





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The NBA is nothing more than a genetic lottery. Most of those guys have shitty work ethics and smoke weed every night. Non humans.

Think about it. If you are 6'10"and can hit a 15' open jumper you have a job making minimum high 6 figures.

I am 6'5" and people act like that is tall in basketball standards. I am short for an NBA 2 guard. People are morons.
 

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Idiot...suck it up and take the money. Why not just tank and they'll have you sitting on the bench and you still get apaycheck..same as retiring
 

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Just stupid, can you imagine the shit the kid has heard being in the dugout everyday. You know some of the other players were like wtf is this kid doing here day after day
 

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