Drafting Carson Wentz will set your NFL team back at least 7 years

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This may be a cold take moment where you guys can bump this thread years down the road but I believe he's garbage.
 
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In general, I don't like guys like this.

Wentz only started 2 years at freakin North Dakota St. and had a redshirt year. That is a huge red flag.

His career high passing yards is 335 playing against guys who are future accountants and attorneys
 
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I have seen him here and there. I just think the jump is too much. Only a handful ever pull it off.

He probably never played against 1 future NFL pass rusher or corner.
 

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I think Wentz will be a journeyman in this league. Expectations are low for him. The guy I worry about is Goff. Being from Cal, he will surely draw comparisons to Aaron Rodgers. He's not even close to being Rodgers. Gof is gonna be a major bust. You can quote me on that. He's got too many question marks.
 
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In general, I don't like guys like this.

Wentz only started 2 years at freakin North Dakota St. and had a redshirt year. That is a huge red flag.

His career high passing yards is 335 playing against guys who are future accountants and attorneys

North Dakota State is the Alabama of FCS football the last number of years. He will do good in the NFL.
 

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I bet you he does better then manzell
 

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Tennessee and Cleveland were smart to move down...this was pretty much like stealing imo
 

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Tennessee and Cleveland were smart to move down...this was pretty much like stealing imo

Yeah, I agree. Good moves.

If you aren't sure that #1 or #2 pick will be game changers for your franchise, you have to take the trade.
 

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North Dakota State is the Alabama of FCS football the last number of years. He will do good in the NFL.
that's like saying the tallest midget would do well in the NBA

if these NDSU players are so phenomenal why haven't i seen one in the first round before?


this is current NFL rosters....not exactly a who's who of the Pro Bowl :)

North Dakota State
PLAYERTEAMPOSITION
John CrockettGreen Bay PackersRunning Back
Kyle EmanuelSan Diego ChargersLinebacker
Ramon HumberNew England PatriotsLinebacker
Billy TurnerMiami DolphinsGuard
Marcus WilliamsNew York JetsCornerback

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then there's the Alabama of FBS football:

Alabama
PLAYERTEAMPOSITION
Javier ArenasBuffalo BillsCornerback
Mark BarronLos Angeles RamsStrong Safety
Leon BrownBaltimore RavensGuard
James CarpenterNew York JetsOffensive Guard
Ha Ha Clinton-DixGreen Bay PackersFree Safety
Landon CollinsNew York GiantsSafety
Amari CooperOakland RaidersWide Receiver
Marcell DareusBuffalo BillsDefensive Tackle
Quinton DialSan Francisco 49ersDefensive Tackle
D.J. FlukerSan Diego ChargersGuard
Jalston FowlerTennessee TitansFullback
Wallace GilberryDetroit LionsDefensive End
Jerrell HarrisDetroit LionsLinebacker
Dont'a HightowerNew England PatriotsLinebacker
Mark IngramNew Orleans SaintsRunning Back
Kareem JacksonHouston TexansCornerback
Rashad JohnsonTennessee TitansSafety
Nico JohnsonNew York GiantsLinebacker
Julio JonesAtlanta FalconsWide Receiver
Barrett JonesPhiladelphia EaglesCenter
Christion JonesMiami DolphinsWide Receiver
Dre KirkpatrickCincinnati BengalsCornerback
Cyrus KouandjioBuffalo BillsOffensive Tackle
Arie KouandjioWashington RedskinsOffensive Guard
Eddie LacyGreen Bay PackersRunning Back
Evan MathisArizona CardinalsGuard
AJ McCarronCincinnati BengalsQuarterback
Rolando McClainDallas CowboysLinebacker
Dee MillinerNew York JetsCornerback
C.J. MosleyBaltimore RavensLinebacker
Kevin NorwoodCarolina PanthersWide Receiver
Jeoffrey PaganHouston TexansDefensive End
Nick PerryBaltimore RavensDefensive Back
Trent RichardsonOakland RaidersRunning Back
DeMeco RyansPhiladelphia EaglesLinebacker
Austin ShepherdMinnesota VikingsOffensive Guard
Andre SmithMinnesota VikingsOffensive Tackle
Damion SquareSan Diego ChargersDefensive Tackle
Anthony SteenMiami DolphinsGuard
Ed StinsonArizona CardinalsDefensive End
Vinnie SunseriNew Orleans SaintsSafety
Carson TinkerJacksonville JaguarsCenter
Courtney UpshawBaltimore RavensLinebacker
Chance WarmackTennessee TitansOffensive Guard
DeAndrew WhiteSan Francisco 49ersWide Receiver
Michael WilliamsNew England PatriotsTight End
Jesse WilliamsSeattle SeahawksDefensive Tackle
T.J. YeldonJacksonville JaguarsRunning Back

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It doesn't set your team back the way it used to because of the rookie scale. It used to be that way because you had to pay so much for them you gave them every possible chance to succeed. Now, it is easier to get rid of them. RG 3 would have been playing for the Redskins last year and not Cousins under the old deal. You just couldn't afford to sit someone making 15 million a year.

This is why the Colts really dropped the ball on Andrew Luck. They have had him for 4 years making about 5 million a year. There are a lot of back-ups that made more money than he did as a top tier qb. They had an extra 15 to 17 million in cap space that they no longer will have.
 

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good to trade down like I mentioned earlier , but you can't do anything in the NFL with one trade that would set you back that many years... 7 years is a very long time
 
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that's like saying the tallest midget would do well in the NBA

if these NDSU players are so phenomenal why haven't i seen one in the first round before?


this is current NFL rosters....not exactly a who's who of the Pro Bowl :)

North Dakota State
PLAYERTEAMPOSITION
John CrockettGreen Bay PackersRunning Back
Kyle EmanuelSan Diego ChargersLinebacker
Ramon HumberNew England PatriotsLinebacker
Billy TurnerMiami DolphinsGuard
Marcus WilliamsNew York JetsCornerback

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then there's the Alabama of FBS football:

Alabama
PLAYERTEAMPOSITION
Javier ArenasBuffalo BillsCornerback
Mark BarronLos Angeles RamsStrong Safety
Leon BrownBaltimore RavensGuard
James CarpenterNew York JetsOffensive Guard
Ha Ha Clinton-DixGreen Bay PackersFree Safety
Landon CollinsNew York GiantsSafety
Amari CooperOakland RaidersWide Receiver
Marcell DareusBuffalo BillsDefensive Tackle
Quinton DialSan Francisco 49ersDefensive Tackle
D.J. FlukerSan Diego ChargersGuard
Jalston FowlerTennessee TitansFullback
Wallace GilberryDetroit LionsDefensive End
Jerrell HarrisDetroit LionsLinebacker
Dont'a HightowerNew England PatriotsLinebacker
Mark IngramNew Orleans SaintsRunning Back
Kareem JacksonHouston TexansCornerback
Rashad JohnsonTennessee TitansSafety
Nico JohnsonNew York GiantsLinebacker
Julio JonesAtlanta FalconsWide Receiver
Barrett JonesPhiladelphia EaglesCenter
Christion JonesMiami DolphinsWide Receiver
Dre KirkpatrickCincinnati BengalsCornerback
Cyrus KouandjioBuffalo BillsOffensive Tackle
Arie KouandjioWashington RedskinsOffensive Guard
Eddie LacyGreen Bay PackersRunning Back
Evan MathisArizona CardinalsGuard
AJ McCarronCincinnati BengalsQuarterback
Rolando McClainDallas CowboysLinebacker
Dee MillinerNew York JetsCornerback
C.J. MosleyBaltimore RavensLinebacker
Kevin NorwoodCarolina PanthersWide Receiver
Jeoffrey PaganHouston TexansDefensive End
Nick PerryBaltimore RavensDefensive Back
Trent RichardsonOakland RaidersRunning Back
DeMeco RyansPhiladelphia EaglesLinebacker
Austin ShepherdMinnesota VikingsOffensive Guard
Andre SmithMinnesota VikingsOffensive Tackle
Damion SquareSan Diego ChargersDefensive Tackle
Anthony SteenMiami DolphinsGuard
Ed StinsonArizona CardinalsDefensive End
Vinnie SunseriNew Orleans SaintsSafety
Carson TinkerJacksonville JaguarsCenter
Courtney UpshawBaltimore RavensLinebacker
Chance WarmackTennessee TitansOffensive Guard
DeAndrew WhiteSan Francisco 49ersWide Receiver
Michael WilliamsNew England PatriotsTight End
Jesse WilliamsSeattle SeahawksDefensive Tackle
T.J. YeldonJacksonville JaguarsRunning Back

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You completely missed the point. In terms of dominance on the field, they have been the Alabama of the FCS the last number of years. This has zero to do with who did what in the NFL.
 

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What Cleveland is doing is perfect.

Give RG3 1 year to prove himself.
If he works great. You still have a top 5 pick from philly and a late 1st.

If he don't workout you get 2 top 5 picks next season in a deeper QB draft. Win/win.

Cant lose
 

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What Cleveland is doing is perfect.

Give RG3 1 year to prove himself.
If he works great. You still have a top 5 pick from philly and a late 1st.

If he don't workout you get 2 top 5 picks next season in a deeper QB draft. Win/win.

Cant lose

Is the QB pool deeper next year ?
 

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I have never seen the kid play. Some highups in Philly love the kid though. If it is Rosenman, they are screwed. No eye for talent. Gave up a bunch when they already spending decent dough on Bradford and Daniel.
 

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<header class="inline-header">[h=1]1st-round QBs from non-FBS schools[/h]Since 1979 NFL draft:
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YearQuarterbackOverall pickTeamSchool
2008Joe FlaccoNo. 18RavensDelaware
1995Steve McNairNo. 3OilersAlcorn St.
1983Ken O'BrienNo. 24JetsCal-Davis
1979Phil SimmsNo. 7Giant

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