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    This may be a cold take moment where you guys can bump this thread years down the road but I believe he's garbage.
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    In general, I don't like guys like this.

    Wentz only started 2 years at freakin North Dakota St. and had a redshirt year. That is a huge red flag.

    His career high passing yards is 335 playing against guys who are future accountants and attorneys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad the Impaler View Post
    In general, I don't like guys like this.

    Wentz only started 2 years at freakin North Dakota St. and had a redshirt year. That is a huge red flag.
    I watched him play. Was very unimpressed and that's against. Ft. Lou.
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    I have seen him here and there. I just think the jump is too much. Only a handful ever pull it off.

    He probably never played against 1 future NFL pass rusher or corner.
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    I think Wentz will be a journeyman in this league. Expectations are low for him. The guy I worry about is Goff. Being from Cal, he will surely draw comparisons to Aaron Rodgers. He's not even close to being Rodgers. Gof is gonna be a major bust. You can quote me on that. He's got too many question marks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad the Impaler View Post
    In general, I don't like guys like this.

    Wentz only started 2 years at freakin North Dakota St. and had a redshirt year. That is a huge red flag.

    His career high passing yards is 335 playing against guys who are future accountants and attorneys
    North Dakota State is the Alabama of FCS football the last number of years. He will do good in the NFL.
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    I bet you he does better then manzell
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    Tennessee and Cleveland were smart to move down...this was pretty much like stealing imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by RED EYE View Post
    Tennessee and Cleveland were smart to move down...this was pretty much like stealing imo
    Yeah, I agree. Good moves.

    If you aren't sure that #1 or #2 pick will be game changers for your franchise, you have to take the trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EveryGamblersDream View Post
    North Dakota State is the Alabama of FCS football the last number of years. He will do good in the NFL.
    that's like saying the tallest midget would do well in the NBA

    if these NDSU players are so phenomenal why haven't i seen one in the first round before?


    this is current NFL rosters....not exactly a who's who of the Pro Bowl

    North Dakota State
    PLAYER TEAM POSITION
    John Crockett Green Bay Packers Running Back
    Kyle Emanuel San Diego Chargers Linebacker
    Ramon Humber New England Patriots Linebacker
    Billy Turner Miami Dolphins Guard
    Marcus Williams New York Jets Cornerback


    then there's the Alabama of FBS football:

    Alabama
    PLAYER TEAM POSITION
    Javier Arenas Buffalo Bills Cornerback
    Mark Barron Los Angeles Rams Strong Safety
    Leon Brown Baltimore Ravens Guard
    James Carpenter New York Jets Offensive Guard
    Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Green Bay Packers Free Safety
    Landon Collins New York Giants Safety
    Amari Cooper Oakland Raiders Wide Receiver
    Marcell Dareus Buffalo Bills Defensive Tackle
    Quinton Dial San Francisco 49ers Defensive Tackle
    D.J. Fluker San Diego Chargers Guard
    Jalston Fowler Tennessee Titans Fullback
    Wallace Gilberry Detroit Lions Defensive End
    Jerrell Harris Detroit Lions Linebacker
    Dont'a Hightower New England Patriots Linebacker
    Mark Ingram New Orleans Saints Running Back
    Kareem Jackson Houston Texans Cornerback
    Rashad Johnson Tennessee Titans Safety
    Nico Johnson New York Giants Linebacker
    Julio Jones Atlanta Falcons Wide Receiver
    Barrett Jones Philadelphia Eagles Center
    Christion Jones Miami Dolphins Wide Receiver
    Dre Kirkpatrick Cincinnati Bengals Cornerback
    Cyrus Kouandjio Buffalo Bills Offensive Tackle
    Arie Kouandjio Washington Redskins Offensive Guard
    Eddie Lacy Green Bay Packers Running Back
    Evan Mathis Arizona Cardinals Guard
    AJ McCarron Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback
    Rolando McClain Dallas Cowboys Linebacker
    Dee Milliner New York Jets Cornerback
    C.J. Mosley Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
    Kevin Norwood Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver
    Jeoffrey Pagan Houston Texans Defensive End
    Nick Perry Baltimore Ravens Defensive Back
    Trent Richardson Oakland Raiders Running Back
    DeMeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagles Linebacker
    Austin Shepherd Minnesota Vikings Offensive Guard
    Andre Smith Minnesota Vikings Offensive Tackle
    Damion Square San Diego Chargers Defensive Tackle
    Anthony Steen Miami Dolphins Guard
    Ed Stinson Arizona Cardinals Defensive End
    Vinnie Sunseri New Orleans Saints Safety
    Carson Tinker Jacksonville Jaguars Center
    Courtney Upshaw Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
    Chance Warmack Tennessee Titans Offensive Guard
    DeAndrew White San Francisco 49ers Wide Receiver
    Michael Williams New England Patriots Tight End
    Jesse Williams Seattle Seahawks Defensive Tackle
    T.J. Yeldon Jacksonville Jaguars Running Back
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    if he is garbage wouldnt that lead to high draft picks every year?
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    It doesn't set your team back the way it used to because of the rookie scale. It used to be that way because you had to pay so much for them you gave them every possible chance to succeed. Now, it is easier to get rid of them. RG 3 would have been playing for the Redskins last year and not Cousins under the old deal. You just couldn't afford to sit someone making 15 million a year.

    This is why the Colts really dropped the ball on Andrew Luck. They have had him for 4 years making about 5 million a year. There are a lot of back-ups that made more money than he did as a top tier qb. They had an extra 15 to 17 million in cap space that they no longer will have.
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    good to trade down like I mentioned earlier , but you can't do anything in the NFL with one trade that would set you back that many years... 7 years is a very long time
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide View Post
    that's like saying the tallest midget would do well in the NBA

    if these NDSU players are so phenomenal why haven't i seen one in the first round before?


    this is current NFL rosters....not exactly a who's who of the Pro Bowl

    North Dakota State
    PLAYER TEAM POSITION
    John Crockett Green Bay Packers Running Back
    Kyle Emanuel San Diego Chargers Linebacker
    Ramon Humber New England Patriots Linebacker
    Billy Turner Miami Dolphins Guard
    Marcus Williams New York Jets Cornerback


    then there's the Alabama of FBS football:

    Alabama
    PLAYER TEAM POSITION
    Javier Arenas Buffalo Bills Cornerback
    Mark Barron Los Angeles Rams Strong Safety
    Leon Brown Baltimore Ravens Guard
    James Carpenter New York Jets Offensive Guard
    Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Green Bay Packers Free Safety
    Landon Collins New York Giants Safety
    Amari Cooper Oakland Raiders Wide Receiver
    Marcell Dareus Buffalo Bills Defensive Tackle
    Quinton Dial San Francisco 49ers Defensive Tackle
    D.J. Fluker San Diego Chargers Guard
    Jalston Fowler Tennessee Titans Fullback
    Wallace Gilberry Detroit Lions Defensive End
    Jerrell Harris Detroit Lions Linebacker
    Dont'a Hightower New England Patriots Linebacker
    Mark Ingram New Orleans Saints Running Back
    Kareem Jackson Houston Texans Cornerback
    Rashad Johnson Tennessee Titans Safety
    Nico Johnson New York Giants Linebacker
    Julio Jones Atlanta Falcons Wide Receiver
    Barrett Jones Philadelphia Eagles Center
    Christion Jones Miami Dolphins Wide Receiver
    Dre Kirkpatrick Cincinnati Bengals Cornerback
    Cyrus Kouandjio Buffalo Bills Offensive Tackle
    Arie Kouandjio Washington Redskins Offensive Guard
    Eddie Lacy Green Bay Packers Running Back
    Evan Mathis Arizona Cardinals Guard
    AJ McCarron Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback
    Rolando McClain Dallas Cowboys Linebacker
    Dee Milliner New York Jets Cornerback
    C.J. Mosley Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
    Kevin Norwood Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver
    Jeoffrey Pagan Houston Texans Defensive End
    Nick Perry Baltimore Ravens Defensive Back
    Trent Richardson Oakland Raiders Running Back
    DeMeco Ryans Philadelphia Eagles Linebacker
    Austin Shepherd Minnesota Vikings Offensive Guard
    Andre Smith Minnesota Vikings Offensive Tackle
    Damion Square San Diego Chargers Defensive Tackle
    Anthony Steen Miami Dolphins Guard
    Ed Stinson Arizona Cardinals Defensive End
    Vinnie Sunseri New Orleans Saints Safety
    Carson Tinker Jacksonville Jaguars Center
    Courtney Upshaw Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
    Chance Warmack Tennessee Titans Offensive Guard
    DeAndrew White San Francisco 49ers Wide Receiver
    Michael Williams New England Patriots Tight End
    Jesse Williams Seattle Seahawks Defensive Tackle
    T.J. Yeldon Jacksonville Jaguars Running Back
    You completely missed the point. In terms of dominance on the field, they have been the Alabama of the FCS the last number of years. This has zero to do with who did what in the NFL.
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    What Cleveland is doing is perfect.

    Give RG3 1 year to prove himself.
    If he works great. You still have a top 5 pick from philly and a late 1st.

    If he don't workout you get 2 top 5 picks next season in a deeper QB draft. Win/win.

    Cant lose
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPTALK View Post
    What Cleveland is doing is perfect.

    Give RG3 1 year to prove himself.
    If he works great. You still have a top 5 pick from philly and a late 1st.

    If he don't workout you get 2 top 5 picks next season in a deeper QB draft. Win/win.

    Cant lose
    Is the QB pool deeper next year ?
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    This guy is going to blow.
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    I have never seen the kid play. Some highups in Philly love the kid though. If it is Rosenman, they are screwed. No eye for talent. Gave up a bunch when they already spending decent dough on Bradford and Daniel.
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    1st-round QBs from non-FBS schools

    Since 1979 NFL draft:
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    Quote Originally Posted by EveryGamblersDream View Post
    North Dakota State is the Alabama of FCS football the last number of years. He will do good in the NFL.
    This is true but Alabama QB's have done nothing in the NFL. He looks like an average QB surrounded by huge talent.
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    Hairline fracture. Guy is a bust.
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    What does a hairline fracture have to do with being a bust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Horseplayer View Post
    This is true but Alabama QB's have done nothing in the NFL. He looks like an average QB surrounded by huge talent.
    Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler want to talk to you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by seldomseen View Post
    What does a hairline fracture have to do with being a bust?
    Nothing. He's a bust because he's shitty.
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    When FCS meets real talent
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