Why CAN'T 5 DIMES PAY??? and others???

NEWPORT · May 24, 2016

So before I bash 5D and Tony's world some more and make fun of his customer service people that do not realize that in AMERICA Saturday is a banking OPEN day and that it is now day 9 I have been waiting for the DCFA (Debit cards payout)

I know the RX will have the inside scoop...I spoke to Heritage yesterday and their Debit Cards FA is down as well and they are waiting on a new processor

I mean it has gotten so bad that just 20 days ago they tell you "STAY AWAY" from Money Gram, now to get payments out they are willing to send a Money Gram to not only you but your wife, ex wife, sister, girlfriend,,dog...hahahahahahahaha

Yea thats the answer

Oh then there is the Money Orders for large amounts....Yea my wife I make a combined 340K yearly....I can see it now " Hello Mr Bank of America Teller, yes I would like to deposit or cash this money order for 1600$ oh and this one for 900$, no I am not a cocaine dealer....no I am not a money launder'r"

Yea so that option is out the door......let that be the degenerate path as it fits the demographic

OK so then the only other option as BITCOIN bartering is like admitting the money is not yours and bartering to get it with some other loser....

so as I was saying the only other option is CHECKS....yes checks from xxxxx xxxx xxx or xxxx xxxxx.....ok none the less....the check now takes 10 days......Oh and possibly an additional week, but they wont know until the order is places LMAO LMAO LMAO

OK so what in the F is really going on here???? Are the UK Books facing this? Is there a better offshore location of books now?

Help and oldtimer understand WTF is going on around here..........because the older I get the the younger and more stupid the customer service offshore people are that I talked to......I understand they get money to put food on their table as in 3rd world its tough

But just help a semi over weight American making his money living his life to KNOW WTF to do when he wants to get paid for winning a parlay or two......

OK love you guys been awhile gl NEWPORT

HacheMan · May 24, 2016

5dimes is still paying everyone but bottom line the options are tough getting the money to ppl right now.

But they will pay you.

It is true about the debit card issues.

I heard about that over a week ago & it's not just with 5dimes.

Bitcoin is a piece of cake, very convenient, and you will love it once you take a few short minutes to get it rolling...

HacheMan · May 24, 2016

Oh, and of course the UK isnt facing the same inconveniences, because their govt has some common sense & understands we're not living in the stone age & allows sports betting...

NEWPORT · May 24, 2016

Hache Man

you have been around longer than. Send me your best UK book recommendations. And that have the best gambling options. It's time I diversify.

NEWPORT · May 24, 2016

And how do you get bit coin going. You need a Bitcoin account?

Redagger029 · May 24, 2016

NEWPORT said:
Hache Man

you have been around longer than. Send me your best UK book recommendations. And that have the best gambling options. It's time I diversify.

Will UK books even take US players?

HacheMan · May 24, 2016

NEWPORT said:
Hache Man

you have been around longer than. Send me your best UK book recommendations. And that have the best gambling options. It's time I diversify.

NEWPORT said:
And how do you get bit coin going. You need a Bitcoin account?

Not sure i can help ya with UK books.

Here's a popular, recent thread on Bitcoin:

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1026472

pocketrockets · May 24, 2016

NEWPORT said:
Hache Man

you have been around longer than. Send me your best UK book recommendations. And that have the best gambling options. It's time I diversify.

I can. BUT, you'll need a proxy identity from someone in Europe, Canada or South America man.

Top book is Pinnacle, hands down. Followed by WilliamHill and 888sports... then you have Ladbrokes and Bet365(they limit you incredibly fast)

Betallsports · May 24, 2016

NEWPORT said:
So before I bash 5D and Tony's world some more and make fun of his customer service people that do not realize that in AMERICA Saturday is a banking OPEN day and that it is now day 9 I have been waiting for the DCFA (Debit cards payout)

I know the RX will have the inside scoop...I spoke to Heritage yesterday and their Debit Cards FA is down as well and they are waiting on a new processor

I mean it has gotten so bad that just 20 days ago they tell you "STAY AWAY" from Money Gram, now to get payments out they are willing to send a Money Gram to not only you but your wife, ex wife, sister, girlfriend,,dog...hahahahahahahaha

Yea thats the answer

Oh then there is the Money Orders for large amounts....Yea my wife I make a combined 340K yearly....I can see it now " Hello Mr Bank of America Teller, yes I would like to deposit or cash this money order for 1600$ oh and this one for 900$, no I am not a cocaine dealer....no I am not a money launder'r"

Yea so that option is out the door......let that be the degenerate path as it fits the demographic

OK so then the only other option as BITCOIN bartering is like admitting the money is not yours and bartering to get it with some other loser....

so as I was saying the only other option is CHECKS....yes checks from xxxxx xxxx xxx or xxxx xxxxx.....ok none the less....the check now takes 10 days......Oh and possibly an additional week, but they wont know until the order is places LMAO LMAO LMAO

OK so what in the F is really going on here???? Are the UK Books facing this? Is there a better offshore location of books now?

Help and oldtimer understand WTF is going on around here..........because the older I get the the younger and more stupid the customer service offshore people are that I talked to......I understand they get money to put food on their table as in 3rd world its tough

But just help a semi over weight American making his money living his life to KNOW WTF to do when he wants to get paid for winning a parlay or two......

OK love you guys been awhile gl NEWPORT

It's always good to see an Oldtimer come out of retirement and stick their head out to say HI ...

Just want to point out a few things, as hache , myself and a few others here can help and walk you through your Pain ... and get your money out.

Even though us Americans know that the banks are Open on a Saturday ... It's still not a "Banking" Day or like we call it, a "Business" Day
So you really can't use Saturday as a Banking Day.

Between Myself and Hache we have helped over a dozen Posters get their money out of 5Dimes since they ran into a recent problem.

So if you don't want to feel like a 2nd hand citizen by cashing or depositing Money Orders, or dealing with Checks from "XYZ" ( please note I took your examples out )

Then the answer is Bitcoin ... Yes like you and didn't believe in Bitcoin, and laughed at people that use it. But it is Totally better Today, than it was.
There's no more , Your money is $1,000 today and $800 tomorrow. Because when you take your Payout, you use a wallet and takes your money in and stays the same before you move it to your Bank. I'm sure there are Fees when doing this... but Nothing like before.
Also in most cases the Book doesn't charge you a fee to use this Option.

More and Exact Information can be found here http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1026472

You might remember poster Raiders72 from back in the day, he has been dealing with Bitcoin since they started and is pretty good ... Also Bounceback, and a couple of other guys have been dealing with them the past couple of months.

More and More Regular US Customer based Books are dealing with Bitcoin as well.
Think of it like Neteller .... It was the fastest and easiest way to get your Money ...

Hope that helps a little

Betallsports · May 24, 2016

Hache Man said:
Not sure i can help ya with UK books.

Here's a popular, recent thread on Bitcoin:

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1026472

Not even sure why he would want any UK based Books ....

maybe people think you need them for Bitcoin ?? All major Shops are using Bitcoin now...

KingEleven · May 24, 2016

and we are called the land of the free....it's a joke....

rolltide · May 24, 2016

Redagger029 said:
Will UK books even take US players?

no European Union bookie will take US players. willhill, paddy, bet365, etc

NEWPORT · May 24, 2016

ok SO WHEN did the DCFA get shitty? Just recently......and that I am surprised about as all that is sending a debit card transfer almost like a refund....will there be a solution to the latest issue or is this part of the systemic attack on the whole thing

and explain the how the delay is manifested.....why would a check be so delayed? and the DCFA for that matter? I guess I misunderstanding how the delay has anything to do with it being able to be done at all

Meaning I would better understand if someone told me....its been blocked cannot do it anymore......they shut it down.....versus the delay part. What is the reasoning that it can still be done but majorly delayed.....thanks

honzie · May 24, 2016

I never understood the popularity with 5Dimes in the first place. Never got satisfaction when dealing with support crew to include Tony. Guy was just an arrogant sob who did not listen. Agree with Pockrok - Pinnacle was the best ever I think - might be the only one that I used without having any hurdles or snags = smooth sailing.
Hey BetAll -- let me know when BitCoin is EXACTLY like Neteller and I'll give them a shot again.

pocketrockets · May 24, 2016

honzie said:
I never understood the popularity with 5Dimes in the first place. Never got satisfaction when dealing with support crew to include Tony. Guy was just an arrogant sob who did not listen. Agree with Pockrok - Pinnacle was the best ever I think - might be the only one that I used without having any hurdles or snags = smooth sailing.
Hey BetAll -- let me know when BitCoin is EXACTLY like Neteller and I'll give them a shot again.

His popularity is based not on great service... but Millions of $ spent in marketing plus TONS of alternative lines/props that others wont offer. In the end whats good about a place that offers EVERY line but is not able to pay... and God forbid you displease King fartknocker Tony over chat, adios balance and account, NO BUENO.

honzie · May 24, 2016

pocketrockets said:
His popularity is based not on great service... but Millions of $ spent in marketing plus TONS of alternative lines/props that others wont offer. In the end whats good about a place that offers EVERY line but is not able to pay... and God forbid you displease King fartknocker Tony over chat, adios balance and account, NO BUENO.

I'll give them that, exotic bet offerings are great and cant figure out why competition has not copy-catted this.

Betallsports · May 24, 2016

honzie said:
I never understood the popularity with 5Dimes in the first place. Never got satisfaction when dealing with support crew to include Tony. Guy was just an arrogant sob who did not listen. Agree with Pockrok - Pinnacle was the best ever I think - might be the only one that I used without having any hurdles or snags = smooth sailing.
Hey BetAll -- let me know when BitCoin is EXACTLY like Neteller and I'll give them a shot again.

Honzie, it's more of the Wallet used to get from Bitcoin from Book to your bank.
Go to that Bitcoin thread and they talk about it.

Betallsports · May 24, 2016

NEWPORT said:
ok SO WHEN did the DCFA get shitty? Just recently......and that I am surprised about as all that is sending a debit card transfer almost like a refund....will there be a solution to the latest issue or is this part of the systemic attack on the whole thing

and explain the how the delay is manifested.....why would a check be so delayed? and the DCFA for that matter? I guess I misunderstanding how the delay has anything to do with it being able to be done at all

Meaning I would better understand if someone told me....its been blocked cannot do it anymore......they shut it down.....versus the delay part. What is the reasoning that it can still be done but majorly delayed.....thanks

You know the saying that Books have said for Years ? It's the processors fault ?? Well Now it's True.

Here's the problem that most All Shops are having now ... and kind of how it works.

Book (A) needs to pay ... say ... 50 players for a total of $20,000.

Book (A) takes $20K and sends it to the processors, who then will send checks to the Players.

If the Processor gets held up in any way, the $20k that Book (A) sent to them, is now held up as well.
Book (A) is Not going to send another $20K to them, because they are already stuck the first $20K

Believe it or not, some Books lose that money because the processor goes Out.

Now Book (A) needs another processor

You have to remember since Sports Gambling is illegal in the U.S, this is a form of money laundering
So it's not like you are buying something at Macy's and returning it for your money back.
There are loop holes.
and as we know, they are using both Legit and shell companies ...

same goes for their credit card processors. Book sends them the money to pay out, there's a hold up there, they can't pay ... or it takes time to pay.
If that place goes belly up, Book is out the money or held up and now they need to find another processor.

rolltide · May 24, 2016

honzie said:
I never understood the popularity with 5Dimes in the first place. Never got satisfaction when dealing with support crew to include Tony.

how many times do you ever need support from your book? while i agree tony is a cvnt, who cares? they WERE a great book and now, because of limited payment options and flat out lies from their reps regarding payments, they are not a great book. but, seriously, why would judge a book by the very few times you need support? That's like saying you won't use verizon wireless because their support sucks but their call range, pricing, and device choices are the best

NEWPORT · May 24, 2016

Betallsports said:
You know the saying that Books have said for Years ? It's the processors fault ?? Well Now it's True.

Here's the problem that most All Shops are having now ... and kind of how it works.

Book (A) needs to pay ... say ... 50 players for a total of $20,000.

Book (A) takes $20K and sends it to the processors, who then will send checks to the Players.

If the Processor gets held up in any way, the $20k that Book (A) sent to them, is now held up as well.
Book (A) is Not going to send another $20K to them, because they are already stuck the first $20K

Believe it or not, some Books lose that money because the processor goes Out.

Now Book (A) needs another processor

You have to remember since Sports Gambling is illegal in the U.S, this is a form of money laundering
So it's not like you are buying something at Macy's and returning it for your money back.
There are loop holes.
and as we know, they are using both Legit and shell companies ...

same goes for their credit card processors. Book sends them the money to pay out, there's a hold up there, they can't pay ... or it takes time to pay.
If that place goes belly up, Book is out the money or held up and now they need to find another processor.

Ok I should have know long ago to come to the RX to get sound insight

Ok I so appreciate your lesson and insight....in summary shit is going south and without a few of us old guys talking about or let me say seasoned as many might be younger than me, we would not understand and gauge this truth.....

Then in essence your insight tells me that CR offshore is gambling themselves with our winnings and more peoples losses to gamble with a processor to stay alive...

so in turn it says to me DEPOSIT little....veryyyyyyyy little and work something with it........then they owe you and and spread your world now across two or three of these CR books and play the gamble as well

BUT NEVER deposit much....go smalllllllll.....now they dont want me or anyone to say or do that....but YES YES YES.....thats what you do

and never deposit more than 2 times a day small with their asian processors.......because that will block you at ho,me

It fits and this thread provides answers.......

As the poster below this about service and the verizon comparison.......YOU ARE HITTING THE HEAD ON THE NAIL!!!! TREAT YOUR BOOK LIKE A 100$ PAYMENT TO VERIZON....AND ASK FOR NO MORE OR NO LESS

DEPOSIT SMALL....JUST LIKE A CELL PHONE BILL

treat this like a walmart gift card....because you are feeding the losing system by doing anything more.........

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