i do not play poker, seriously anyways, but ive got a few big games (that includes a couple of professionals) around here that i would like to play in, there is also a casino. my question is, how long would it take for someone to learn how to play the game? is it possible to beat these pro players? and how much money do i need for 1-3 or 5 no limit game? no limit hold em is the game
Tournament format you would stand a chance with some quick tips and playing a very tight (mostly) shove/fold preflop strategy that negated their ability to exploit you postflop. No offense but you would likely get picked apart in a cash game, almost regardless of the cards you got. You would have to run like Jesus Christ to have a chance at winning anything.
I could teach you how to be a viable tournament player in a matter of weeks or maybe a couple months, assuming you have a basic understanding of the game now.
To learn enough to compete against pros in a cash game I'd say you would need at least 6 months. Most of that time would be gaining experience playing at smaller stakes.
Generally you would need at least 100bb (ideally 200) to sit down at the table and play comfortably; so minimum $300 for 1/3 or $500 for 2/5. This is just for one session; I would say you would need at least 20 buy ins to have a comfortable roll. So 6k for 1/3 and 10k for 2/5 to start.
I could teach you how to be a viable tournament player in a matter of weeks or maybe a couple months, assuming you have a basic understanding of the game now.
To learn enough to compete against pros in a cash game I'd say you would need at least 6 months. Most of that time would be gaining experience playing at smaller stakes.
Generally you would need at least 100bb (ideally 200) to sit down at the table and play comfortably; so minimum $300 for 1/3 or $500 for 2/5. This is just for one session; I would say you would need at least 20 buy ins to have a comfortable roll. So 6k for 1/3 and 10k for 2/5 to start.
Online would actually be the preferred place to learn and practice and gain experience. You just see such a higher volume of hands, so it's the faster track.
You would want to mix up some live experience so you didn't get intimidated when you stepped up to the bigger games, but as far as learning strategies, bet sizing, hand reading, that kinda stuff...you'd be better off practicing that stuff multi-tabling micro stakes online.
Online translates pretty well to live. It's the same principles, just people tend to play a little crazier online, so there would be a minor adjustment.
I could suggest some good books to start off, and then I would say go online and pop open two 5c/10c tables at once and practice the strategies you read about at those limits. Sprinkle in a few live sessions at the lower limits, and you'd be off to a start at least.
2+2 forum is an invaluable resource to post hands where you're not sure you played it right, and get feedback from experienced players.
If you were really serious about it, you could hire a poker coach that could really fast-track you. They're pretty expensive though. There are listings for these people at 2+2.
You would want to mix up some live experience so you didn't get intimidated when you stepped up to the bigger games, but as far as learning strategies, bet sizing, hand reading, that kinda stuff...you'd be better off practicing that stuff multi-tabling micro stakes online.
Online translates pretty well to live. It's the same principles, just people tend to play a little crazier online, so there would be a minor adjustment.
I could suggest some good books to start off, and then I would say go online and pop open two 5c/10c tables at once and practice the strategies you read about at those limits. Sprinkle in a few live sessions at the lower limits, and you'd be off to a start at least.
2+2 forum is an invaluable resource to post hands where you're not sure you played it right, and get feedback from experienced players.
If you were really serious about it, you could hire a poker coach that could really fast-track you. They're pretty expensive though. There are listings for these people at 2+2.
2+2 is a poker forum. Google it, I don't want to post a link here. It's the #1 learning resource out there IMO (when utilized in combination with practice), better than any collection of books.
You might be surprised at the amount of money that can change hands at a 5c/10c game, or 10c/25c. It's still no limit. I've both won and lost hundreds in a 3 hour session at micros many times.
Here are coaching listings at 2+2
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/164/cash-game-poker-coach-listings/
Prices vary pretty widely, but you can expect to drop at least $50/hr, 100 for the good ones.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/164/cash-game-poker-coach-listings/
Prices vary pretty widely, but you can expect to drop at least $50/hr, 100 for the good ones.
I dont disagree with anything HC said.
Only thing I would add is you will probably figure out very quickly if you have the natural ability to become very good to great at it very quickly .
I guess it's like playing the guitar .
Anyone can learn how to play a tune in a short period of time , but no matter how much you practice not everyone can be Clapton.
Im sure Clapton realized pretty early on that " hey I can be really good at this "
And I figured out pretty quickly that my future is not a rock star.
It is very much possible to use a similar recipe / "basic strategy" that would be profitable at vast majority of cash games. Would take only a few minutes to learn, not a few weeks and would be possible to beat pro players. It wouldn't work once your opponents figured it out, but will take at least a few hours for that to happen -- and possibly not at all
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1. buy in for close to minimum
2. fold everything except qq, kk, aa, and ak
3. when you do get one of those hands push half your stack in and hope there are callers
4. if you get to see a flop, push the rest of your stack in no matter what cards come up
5. if you you win, walk away; if you lose, either walk away or buy in again, your choice
Anyone can follow those steps and it will be profitable in just about any 1-2 or 1-3 casino game. Against pros you'll be an underdog, but you would need to be very skilled to be able to come up with a game that gives you a better chance
