Have Any Of You Guys Beat/Reversed High Blood Pressure?

HacheMan · Aug 6, 2016

Never had issues in the past & never thought I'd be one having to deal with it, but lately my blood pressure has been very high (both numbers) & it appears I'm staring at a pill a day starting next week after next appointment.

Dr told me it can indeed be reversed but most people don't have the willpower to do what it takes.

Another question i have for those taking meds is did you notice any difference (feeling better in any way) once you started?

Thanks Fellas

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scrubs · Aug 6, 2016

stop sweating gms and your b.p. will go down....someone did a study yrs ago of bettors sweating gms and they found mlb was the worst for b.p.

BostonBettor · Aug 6, 2016

What kind of meds? I've been on lisinopril for a few years now. I can't say I noticed any difference in the way I feel. I remember these commercials called high blood pressure the "silent killer", because usually there aren't any noticeable symptoms. Good luck whatever you decide.

WorldNumberOne · Aug 6, 2016

are you overweight ?

i take the same thing as boston bettor. if i lost 30 pounds, i could probably get off it.

RenoChazz · Aug 6, 2016

cardio lots of cardio. I always had good BP though, until I stopped working a job. It wasn't horrible, but it was high. I started doing 5 miles daily on the elyptical. After 6 months I have enviously good BP.

HamGlaze · Aug 6, 2016

Yes I've beaten high blood pressure. It's when football season ends.

HacheMan · Aug 6, 2016

scrubs said:
stop sweating gms and your b.p. will go down....someone did a study yrs ago of bettors sweating gms and they found mlb was the worst for b.p.

Ha I'm sure ppl stressing over bets absolutely affects blood pressure...

BostonBettor said:
What kind of meds? I've been on lisinopril for a few years now. I can't say I noticed any difference in the way I feel. I remember these commercials called high blood pressure the "silent killer", because usually there aren't any noticeable symptoms. Good luck whatever you decide.

I honestly have no idea what kind of med yet.

This is all new to me...

HacheMan · Aug 6, 2016

World Number One said:
are you overweight ?

i take the same thing as boston bettor. if i lost 30 pounds, i could probably get off it.

All my life I've been in great shape as i played sports & exercised.

Only the last couple of years have i slipped off & yes probably a lil overweight now.

I'm thinking it's worse for ppl who have always kept in decent shape & suddenly they arent.

Probably a lot harder on your body & like a shock ro your body vs someone who has always eaten freely without the worry of working out...

wilbur · Aug 6, 2016

Hache Man said:
All my life I've been in great shape as i played sports & exercised.

Only the last couple of years have i slipped off & yes probably a lil overweight now.

I'm thinking it's worse for ppl who have always kept in decent shape & suddenly they arent.

Probably a lot harder on your body & like a shock ro your body vs someone who has always eaten freely without the worry of working out...

The worst thing you can do is sit on your ass.
I had high bp and the doc wanted to give me pills and I said no.
Started walking and lost 22 pounds.
Now I'm a lean,mean, fighting machine.
182 lbs.

slapshot · Aug 6, 2016

wilbur said:
The worst thing you can do is sit on your ass.
I had high bp and the doc wanted to give me pills and I said no.
Started walking and lost 22 pounds.
Now I'm a lean,mean, fighting machine.
182 lbs.

yeah get moving and some diet changes should bring it down

PatsFan1283 · Aug 6, 2016

Maybe a nutrition issue? Try to tackle it with eating better before meds if you can.

You say you haven't dealt with anything like that your whole life, it is a weird thing. You know who else suffers from high blood pressure? The coolest under pressure, Joe Montana. Body works in mysterious ways.

TheComputerGroup · Aug 6, 2016

I've seen customers in the restaurant eat unhealthy day after day w/o any blood pressure problems.......I think the main cause of high blood pressure is stress......stress is a silent killer.

Walking/swimming are great lowering BP, along with eating healthy should lower your BP......I find when u go for long walks, it tends to relax me, especially during football season......if you're an every day sports bettor, you should be able to get some kind of exercise in daily.

DesertNole · Aug 6, 2016

The Computer Group said:
I've seen customers in the restaurant eat unhealthy day after day w/o any blood pressure problems.......I think the main cause of high blood pressure is stress......stress is a silent killer.

Walking/swimming are great lowering BP, along with eating healthy should lower your BP......I find when u go for long walks, it tends to relax me, especially during football season......if you're an every day sports bettor, you should be able to get some kind of exercise in daily.

True and good advice....find some type of routine that gets you outside. Walking, running, kayaking, cycling, gardening, mountain biking.....

HarryCaray · Aug 6, 2016

What's your sugar intake like?

I've had blood pressure problems to the point where I was on clonodine.

When I quit drinking it got good enough that they took me off the meds, but it was still slightly elevated.

Going low carb/sugar got it the rest of the way to where it needed to be.

HarryCaray · Aug 6, 2016

Also what is your caffeine intake like?

boss415 · Aug 6, 2016

Taking garlic every day can help lower the bp. I was on the lisinopril and you dont feel it at all. Problem was when I ran out and didnt have any like on vacation I would get super torqued up ! I said f*ck it I am not going to be stuck taking that crap every day and lost weight , changed my diet (gave up fast food) , and I take garlic everyday. Good luck getting the bp back down !

Ricboff · Aug 6, 2016

Hache Man

somehow i screwed up the thread you opened. Gee, no idea how I did that. Spent nearly 20 minutes on the post!! Gee!!....anyway. Sorry. I can re-send as a PM if you cant read it.

here's one of the links. Cool article.

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/physicians-may-be-missing-their-most-important-tool.html

[h=1]Physicians May Be Missing Their Most Important Tool[/h]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]In the United States, most deaths are preventable and related to nutrition. Given that the number-one cause of death and the number-one cause of disability in this country is diet, surely nutrition is the number-one subject taught in medical school, right? Sadly, that is not the case.[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]A group of prominent physicians wrote in 2014 that “nutrition receives little attention in medical practice” and “the reason stems, in large part, from the severe deficiency of nutrition education at all levels of medical training.” After all, it has been proven that a whole foods, plant-based diet low in animal products and refined carbohydrates can reverse coronary heart disease, our number-one killer, and provide potent protection against cancer and type 2 diabetes, two other leading killers.[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]So, how has medical education been affected by this knowledge? Medical students are still getting less than 20 hours of nutrition education over 4 years, and even most of that has limited clinical relevance. Thirty years ago, only 37 percent of medical schools had a single course in nutrition. According to the most recent national survey, that number has since dropped to 27 percent. And it gets even worse after students graduate

[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]According to the official list of all the requirements for those specializing in cardiology, Fellows must perform at least 50 stress tests, participate in at least 100 catheterizations, and so on. But nowhere in the 34-page list of requirements is there any mention of nutrition. Maybe they leave that to the primary care physicians? No. In the official 35-page list of requirements for internal medicine doctors, once again, nutrition doesn’t get even a single mention.[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]There are no requirements for nutrition before medical school either. Instead, aspiring doctors need to take courses like calculus, organic chemistry and physics. Most of these common pre-med requirements are irrelevant to the practice of medicine and are primarily used to “weed out” students. Shouldn’t we be weeding out based on skills a physician actually uses? An important paper published in the Archives of Internal Medicine states: “The pernicious and myopic nature of this process of selection becomes evident when one realizes that those qualities that may lead to success in a premedical organic chemistry course…[like] a brutal competitiveness, an unquestioning, meticulous memorization, are not necessarily the same qualities that are present in a competent clinician.”[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]How about requiring a course in nutrition instead of calculus, or ethics instead of physics?[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]Despite the neglect of nutrition in medical education, physicians are considered by the public to be among the most trusted sources for information related to nutrition. But if doctors don’t know what they’re talking about, they could actually be contributing to diet-related disease. If we’re going to stop the prevailing trend of chronic illness in the United States, physicians need to become part of the solution.[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]There’s still a lot to learn about the optimal diet, but we don’t need a single additional study to take nutrition education seriously right now. It’s health care’s low-hanging fruit. While we’ve had the necessary knowledge for some time, what we’ve been lacking is the will to put that knowledge into practice. If we emphasized the powerful role of nutrition, we could dramatically reduce suffering and needless death.[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]Take, for example, the “Million Hearts” initiative. More than 2 million Americans have a heart attack or stroke each year. In 2011, U.S. federal, state, and local government agencies launched the Million Hearts initiative to prevent 1 million of the 10 million heart attacks and strokes that will occur in the next 5 years. “But why stop at a million?” a doctor asked in the American Journal of Cardiology. Already, we possess all the information needed to eradicate atherosclerotic disease, which is our number-one killer while being virtually nonexistent in populations who consume plant-based diets. Some of the world’s most renowned cardiovascular pathologists have stated we just need to get our cholesterol low enough in order to not only prevent—but also reverse—the disease in more than 80 percent of patients. We can open up arteries without drugs and surgery, and stabilize or improve blood flow in 99 percent of those who choose to eat healthy and clean up their bad habits. We can essentially eliminate our risk of having a heart attack even in the most advanced cases of heart disease.[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]Despite this, medical students aren’t even taught these concepts while they’re in school. Instead, the focus is on cutting people open, which frequently provides only symptomatic relief because we’re not treating the actual cause of the disease. Fixing medical education is the solution to this travesty. Knowledge of nutrition can help doctors eradicate the world’s leading killer.[/FONT]
[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]In health,
Michael Greger, M.D.[/FONT]

Ricboff · Aug 6, 2016

fuck it, re-posting. There maybe others that may find the following applicable/useful.

Hypertension is the single most important risk factor for pre-mature death in N America. As far as I'm concerned-- All parents owe it to their kids, spouse, to themselves to be in the best shape they can be. By doing so, you decrease the probability of disease expression (ESPECIALLY chronic disease, which hypertension is). Hypertension puts you at risk of a horrific acute event; stroke, heart attack. Fortunately, for Hache, he was diagnosed BEFORE an acute episode. Lucky...and good.

Now you have a few choices to make. Let a pill(s) control/attempt to manage the disease. Your MD will fiddle with the dosage until the numbers come down. If one type of pill doesnt do the trick, he'll switch do a different type. OR will add another pill, polypharmacy . Understand this- the pill DOES NOT treat causation, the underlying cause. It's a band aid. With lifestyle changes, you most definitely can get your BP under control . Soon you'll be off the pills...effectively, you cured/healed yourself..

. Empowering. You can't control genetics. You CAN control environmental risk factors that play a huge role in expression of disease. Take control of what you can control. Here is a list of common risk factors (this list is not a 'be all ' list). Work with your MD. Have a candid conversation; be a team.

1. Exercise- Movement, just move. The little things all add up. Park far away at the grocery store....get a fitbit; challenge yourself to 10,000 steps a day. Activities you enjoy? softball, runner? swim? cycling?....

2. Food- HUGE. Heal yourself with the foods you eat. Cant go wrong with a paleo based or modification of. Hire a nutritionist if needed.

3. Sleep- sleep apnea is a slow killer. Associated with cardiovascular disease/diabetes/gerd. Two classic red flags are- daytime tiredness/snoring

4. weight loss

5. smoking/excess alcohol

6. stress management

again, work with your MD. If you're not happy with his/her approach consider the following ;

https://www.functionalmedicine.org/practitioner_search.aspx?id=117

gl to you

Gaped · Aug 7, 2016

Eat a ton of garlic daily. Just do it and thank me later.

cy1981 · Aug 7, 2016

My blood pressure was always higher than normal all the way back to high school and college when I was in as good of shape as I could be in. It got high enough that my doctor put me on blood pressure medicine when I was 38. I'm 58 today and as far as I know I have no side effects from taking it. It's not a big deal to take a pill a day if it doesn't have any side effects. Doing all the other things mentioned above will further help it.

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