Congratulations

Betallsports · Sep 23, 2016

Go out to the New England Patriots

By Far the Best NFL Team in the 21st century

Doesn't matter who plays or doesn't play

The Best team doesn't have to win the Super Bowl every year, but they are always in it, plus have won the AFC east 13 out of the 15 years thus far in the 21st Century.

The Best team is the Team that goes out there each and every game looking to Win no matter what.

Props go out to Bill Belicheat ... ( yes I still have to call him that ) But there is No better Head Coach out there.

As a NY JETS fan it's hard to admit it, but Hey .... How could you not ??

ANOTHERDAY · Sep 23, 2016

No integrity = Bill Belichick
No character = Bill B
Looks like a hobo = Bill B
Should have been thrown out (cheating) of the league = Bill B

Top coach = Bill B

Betallsports · Sep 23, 2016

ANOTHERDAY? said:
No integrity = Bill Belichick
No character = Bill B
Looks like a hobo = Bill B
Should have been thrown out (cheating) of the league = Bill B

Top coach = Bill B

I agree with all that ... But he does put a good team together and they Work together as a Team.
But yeah

ChugsMcGee · Sep 23, 2016

So...and let me preface this by saying obviously Tom Brady is a great quarterback...but at what point does this constant Patriot winning start to affect his legacy as the best ever.

And yes, I'm in the Peyton camp, and the Montana camp...but same arguments affected Montana with the Bill Walsh system.

skoda · Sep 23, 2016

ANOTHERDAY? said:
No integrity = Bill Belichick
No character = Bill B
Looks like a hobo = Bill B
Should have been thrown out (cheating) of the league = Bill B

Top coach = Bill B

No character = Hillary

Looks like a Grandma = Hillary

Should have been thrown locked up (Perjury) = Hillary

Top Choice = Donald T.

I took Pats last night b/c of Bill B I'm (4-7)

BAS(1) 4-6
BAS (2) 5-5

BAS little side action???

One of us can be a winner or double-up? You and I Head to Head for a buck, best record at end wins 1/2 of their entry for 2016/2017 into Rx Hilton?

Lip-off @ 8pm Monday

Vlad the Impaler · Sep 23, 2016

Shows how over valued Tom Brady is.

Team is 14-5 without him.

Just beat a playoff team; I'm sorry pounded and routed a playoff team on a short week with a rookie 3rd round pick black quarterback.

PatsFan1283 · Sep 23, 2016

ChugsMcGee said:
So...and let me preface this by saying obviously Tom Brady is a great quarterback...but at what point does this constant Patriot winning start to affect his legacy as the best ever.

And yes, I'm in the Peyton camp, and the Montana camp...but same arguments affected Montana with the Bill Walsh system.

Did they? Seems like no one brings up all the success Ken Anderson had in the West Coast offense before Montana. Or Steve Young after it.

Over time I think the nuance just fades and people just compare resumes. Just taking into account all information I think Montana is a little overrated but it isn't something I'd care to really debate.

TheComputerGroup · Sep 23, 2016

ChugsMcGee said:
So...and let me preface this by saying obviously Tom Brady is a great quarterback...but at what point does this constant Patriot winning start to affect his legacy as the best ever.

And yes, I'm in the Peyton camp, and the Montana camp...but same arguments affected Montana with the Bill Walsh system.

I was saying the same thing to my brother last night......everyone including me say that Montana & Brady are 2 of the best NFL Qbs to ever play, but I'm starting to think its not really them, its the coach & the system they run out of those teams, especially in New England. The hoodie master can put a homeless man back there at Qb & still win.

I don't think the Pats would have gone 18-0 with just any Qb, so Brady is definitely the Qb for the Pats, but just saying how great Belichick & his system work w/o Brady.......no other coach can do this in the NFL.

ChugsMcGee · Sep 23, 2016

I think that's a lot of it..."oh, they each got 4 rings." But, no one ever mentions Bradshaw (and I'm not old enough to actually have seen Bradshaw) but maybe they did a decade earlier and I don't remember. Perhaps the Montana mentions die off even more over time. To me it feels like they've definitely already died off beginning with the Manning/Brady heyday. I mean the "Bill Walsh Tree" was one of the original mainsteam trees. Montana sits out a game Young would win...hell, Steve Bono would win.

Obviously, Brady and Montana are/were great QBs, but they were in elite systems. Would they have been as good? Maybe not. Does Peyton beat his brother twice to give the Pats 6 rings...now we're talking crazy, but...

Vlad the Impaler · Sep 23, 2016

Team will likely be 4-0 without what alot consider the greatest qb of all time in what is a very much qb driven league right now; moreso than any other era.

Sketchy. I never bought it anyway but I know alot of others do.