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Worst week of the college season this past weekend. -10 units. Nevertheless, overall it was $$ year.
YTD: 101-87, +42.8 units

Bowl thread 2015-2016: 25-16, +47 units
(lost a number of 1*s then too)

Like to start the bowl season off with the Army-Navy Game. Seems like bowl season the way these 2 go at it.

4* Army +8 ​(write-up coming)
 

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4* Army +8 This could be the year that Army finally wins this rivalry game. I plan to play a ML play, when it shows up for the offshore books, for a small bet. Last year, when Army was 2-10 and lost about half their games by blowouts, they lost by 3 to Navy, and would have won if not for their 3 turnovers. The year before, Army again lost a close one. Navy is coming off a bruising loss to Temple, a physical game where they lost their starting QB(who has been a great find, and a backup himself), their top RB, and maybe 3 other offensive players who are questionable. A few defensive players are also questionable. Army is well rested, and off a marshmallow match-up with Morgan State. I think Army has been preparing for this Navy game for 3 weeks now, while Navy expects to win, but is severely banged up. The Navy 3rd string QB, Zach Abey, looks to be a decent player, but he's no Will Worth or Tago Smith.

Army is better suited for games like this. Defensively, this is one of their better squads in many years. They can't play with a much faster, high passing team like Notre Dame, but they did beat Temple and Wake Forest, two run-heavy offenses like Navy. Army QB Ahmad Bradshaw is one of the better passing QBs Army has recruited. His stats look mediocre, but the talent is there, and he has 3 weeks to work with the offense on plays designed to deceive a tired and depleted Navy defense. Another reason I like this game is that Navy's prolific offense has masked the issues Navy's D has. They are 111th in the nation in defensive efficiency, which measures points allowed vs. level of competition, and deducts points allowed in garbage time. Navy's defense lost 10 starters to graduation, and along with injuries, is nowhere near what it was last year when it was a pretty good D by Navy standards.
 

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Curious as to your record for 2 or 3 * and above. Pretty impressive I bet.
 

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First day of the week Fred, but if the weather even looks tepid come say, Thursday, I'm dogpounding the piss out of the under. GL and GL again for the bowl games.

~T~
 

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Curious as to your record for 2 or 3 * and above. Pretty impressive I bet.
I don't keep track, but between this year's season and last year's bowls, I'm probably at 35% on the 1* plays. I sometimes bet them below one full unit, but for simplicity I post them at 1 full unit. Maybe this bowl season I'll post them as leans.
 

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Lean: Army ML +215 ​I didn't put a full unit on it, but enough $ to make it interesting.
 

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First day of the week Fred, but if the weather even looks tepid come say, Thursday, I'm dogpounding the piss out of the under. GL and GL again for the bowl games.

~T~

Service Academy games:

27-7 UNDER since 2005, 2-0 TY

14-1-1 Last 16
 

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good luck this bowl season o fred
 

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The next 2 plays reflect my general disdain for the Mt. West Conference, at least how badly they play defense.

2* UTSA +7.5 (-120)
I'm not so sure that New Mexico is that excited to be playing AGAIN in Albuquerque. Yes, it's a home game, but if you're a Lobo player wouldn't you rather travel somewhere…say California, Las Vegas, Florida, Hawaii….anywhere but staying at home for the 2nd year in a row. I think UTSA will be the more motivated team here, and they're led by HC Frank Wilson- the former assistant HC at LSU and ace recruiter. His players have never played in a bowl game, are coming off a 2015 poor season, and Albuquerque is just fine with them. Wilson motivated his team to play well vs. better teams, such as their blowout of MTSU, and close losses to ASU and Texas A&M.

The general thinking here is that running teams do well in bowl games, and that's true. But NM is pretty one-dimensional, and passing is only used as a last resort. New Mexico is also the poorer defensive team here- being 119th in defensive efficiency(which takes into account strength of schedule) and 123rd passing yds/ attempt. So yes, UTSA will struggle with the Lobos' option offense, but I think NMU struggles even more with a UTSA offense that can run the ball well, and pass well enough to convert 3rd downs and break off a big play. In fact, I could make the case that the Lobos are the worst defensive team in the bowl schedule. I also question HC Bob Davie a bit. He tried to go with his passing QB earlier in the year, Austin Apodaca, rather than senior Lamar Jordan- who is the more dynamic runner and probably the more dynamic leader. It was a bad idea and losing to NMSU and to Rutgers kind of affirmed it. Davie is still putting Apodaca in at times, although to be honest he's not a great passer at 55%.

As for schedules, NMU played Boise, not SD St, and their best game was 5 point win at home over Air Force. UTSA played a few bombs, but also played very well vs. good competition. In the one game season that is the bowl season, I think they'll play their A game, and possibly even pull out the upset. Going against the disappointed home team here and their crappy MWC defense.
 

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5* Houston -3 I know all about the coaching situation with Houston. I'm glad Herman left 2 weeks ago, and the Cougars have nearly a month before they play their bowl game. They also have become a coveted spot for interviewing new HCs. Les Miles, Lane Kiffin, Art Briles would have been a good hire if not for the baggage..and he wanted the job. But it sounds like Oklahoma OC, Lincoln Riley, knocked it out of the ballpark in the interview process, and I'm betting he gets the job within the next few days. The Cougar players have to be somewhat impressed that they have so many well-known coaches wanting to be their next HC. Riley would be a nice catch and definitely excite the offensive players. I also think, based on my observations over the last many years, that bowl teams usually tank during a coaching change is overstated and often not the case. Houston retains its OC and DC, and 4-5 other coaches. I think the hiring of Riley will encourage the younger players that their team and football future will be in good hands.

I also think their opponent, SD State, really faded toward the end of the season. They lost their last 2 out of 3, and barely squeaked by Wyoming in their last game. They might be as disappointed as Houston(maybe more) on their Las Vegas Bowl game. SD State played an even more cream puff schedule than New Mexico. They never played Boise, lost to South Alabama, and should have lost their Cal game if not for turnovers. A big part of this play is that SD State's defense is overrated. I don't care what the stats say. Beating up on Fresno, Nevada, New Hampshire, UNLV, San Jose, Hawaii, etc. doesn't make a defense formidable. More telling is how porous their D was vs. Wyoming, Colorado State, South Alabama, and Cal. Houston is at least as good as those teams offensively.

Houston is quite an enigma. Beat up on Oklahoma and Louisville, and I mean beat up. Creamed UConn as their revenge game for last year's only loss. But they also laid some eggs losing to SMU and Memphis. I like them here in this one isolated game, like their one game season in last year's bowl vs. FSU. Their 14 point victory really wasn't that close. Houston has the 2nd ranked rushing defense in the nation and will load up to stop Pumphrey and the Aztec running game, daring QB Christian Chapman to beat them. Chapman fared so-so vs. the crummy Mt. West pass defenses- and had a number of poor outings. This SD State team also lost enough starters and depth(10) to drop the talent level a notch or two. I'll take the much better QB and the better defense, off a tougher schedule- especially if Riley or another prominent coach gets hired soon.
 

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3* UCF/ Arkansas State- under 49 This early bowl game features two run-heavy offenses, neither with a quarterback that can light up the scoreboard. And both of their running attacks aren't very effective vs. better competition. Let's take Warren Wand, the feature back for ASU. He has 3 exemplary games vs. the Ds of NMSU, Texas State and Ga. Southern- 3 really ugly run Ds. But in other games, he's mediocre at a 3-4 ypc clip. UCF played against some very good offensive teams(USF, Tulsa, Michigan, ECU), but still played relatively well defensively, and I'm not sure how ASU will score much. UCF was 19th in defensive efficiency, 9th in defensive passing %, and had 36 sacks. Arkansas State was 42 in defensive efficiency(and that's with a poor start to the season), 21st in passing D %, and had 37 sacks. ASU has the best defensive talent in the Sun Belt, but playing Toledo, Auburn and Utah State early make their D stats look worse than this unit really plays. With two first year QBs, I think we'll see a more conservative game plan, and a game that starts with some dropped passes, miscues, and offensive penalties. Timing likely off. Defenses are rested after the weekly grind of the season. If the 1st half total is around 24, I'll be on that too. Let's pray for rain.
 

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I expect that the Houston players are relieved that the coaching change was in-house. Applewhite has done a remarkable job with the Cougar offense and the development of Greg Ward. Applewhite being a good recruiter at least tells me he can relate to young men. Gonna ride with my Houston play...

1* James Madison/ Sam Houston St. - under 88.5 (-120) I just had to make this play. James Madison actually can play some defense, and the weather will be a factor. The wind chill should be in the upper teens. Players tend to have harder time feeling their extremities in cold weather, and breathing gets a little labored. The Texas boys especially might be thrown off. But even the JMU players, being in Virginia, aren't exactly accustomed to this kind of weather. The sideline heaters will be a popular place to congregate. A few dropped passes, a couple of turnovers in the end zone, and this should cover. In fact, if you look at the scores for these two teams, they usually don't top 88.
 

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I expect that the Houston players are relieved that the coaching change was in-house. Applewhite has done a remarkable job with the Cougar offense and the development of Greg Ward. Applewhite being a good recruiter at least tells me he can relate to young men. Gonna ride with my Houston play...

1* James Madison/ Sam Houston St. - under 88.5 (-120) I just had to make this play. James Madison actually can play some defense, and the weather will be a factor. The wind chill should be in the upper teens. Players tend to have harder time feeling their extremities in cold weather, and breathing gets a little labored. The Texas boys especially might be thrown off. But even the JMU players, being in Virginia, aren't exactly accustomed to this kind of weather. The sideline heaters will be a popular place to congregate. A few dropped passes, a couple of turnovers in the end zone, and this should cover. In fact, if you look at the scores for these two teams, they usually don't top 88.

Nice call on the under last night!

GL today...and the rest of the way.

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Had the under as well! Added to it when I saw your post! Thanks O Fred and GL with the bowl games.
 

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Army line continues to drop. I got a feeling they win this game. Turnovers will be key as usual.
 

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Chugging along nicely Fred......continued success and good luck. The Army-Navy game, win, lose, or draw, was a credit to college football.
 

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With the promotion of Offensive Coordinator Major Applewhite to new head coach of the Houston Cougars - any thoughts on how the team will react as they gear-up for their bowl game? Lot's of high profile names were tossed out there but they decided to stay "in-house" for their new HC. Wondering if this is a popular decision amongst the players?
 

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Chugging along nicely Fred......continued success and good luck. The Army-Navy game, win, lose, or draw, was a credit to college football.
I didn't get to see it, but am glad Army finally won. The ML was a nice chunk of change too. A 3-0(+7.15 units) start helps me cap with confidence.
 

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