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Clemson is a dog?!?!..:missingte:nohead::):):):):):)
 

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should be a nail biter all the way - -best way to play this game might be the live line in the 2nd half of the game
 

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i understand, its out of respect and fear of giving urban points...its the books only play

all the respect in the world for urban, but no clue how he scores more than clemson tonight
 

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i understand, its out of respect and fear of giving urban points...its the books only play

all the respect in the world for urban, but no clue how he scores more than clemson tonight
Agreed.. urban is a great coach, but he's not playing. Clemson has a bad habit of letting teams hang around but unless Watson doesn't show up or gets injured, Clemson has the better overall team and THEE Ohio State will fall short IMO. Think this line is 6 points off
 

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Agreed.. urban is a great coach, but he's not playing. Clemson has a bad habit of letting teams hang around but unless Watson doesn't show up or gets injured, Clemson has the better overall team and THEE Ohio State will fall short IMO. Think this line is 6 points off

could not agree more..clemson ml for me..they should be favored here..just need watson to hold onto the rock and we good
 

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So Michigan almost beats FSU....who is arguably as good as Clemson....without their best two players in Peppers and Butt.....

but it's too hard to believe this line? I think the line is right. OSU a slight fave. Urban Meyer is a top 5 coach in the country and his bowl game record is 9-2....

Anyways should be a good one down to the wire. Tough side to pick.
 

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michigan lost 3 out of last 4? michigan compiled gaudy stats agst a garbage schedule..they won a single game outside their state this year..they played 2 good teams and 2 decent teams and won once..michigan doesnt help your argument gas///

urban is a top 2 coach, and with 3 weeks to prepare scares the hell out of me, but it doesnt make his o line block better or his wrs get open for jt? they simply cannot move the ball, their stats are skewed, just as um s are because of beating the hell out of bad teams..this line at the absolute worst should be a pick..the books fear meyer getting points, for good reason
 
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Anyone remember what Urbana D did to that high powered Ohio State O in 2006? 41-14 with Chris freaking Leak! Line should probably be around PK or Clemson slight fave but public perception and tOSU is a public bet as well as giving Urban points is not something the books want to do. Urban may not be out there on the field but he gets his guys prepared like no one else. The only way I see my team winning is if the Def can score some points, if they get Samuel involved more and they give Prince some blocking help. JT can't hold onto the ball as long as he has been either. They don't correct that stuff, they don't win. Clemson for sure has the experience and may be the "all around" better team but Clemson turns it over and our D creates TO's. That will be the big difference. If Clemson doesn't turn it over it may be a long day for OSU. Btw, Urban is 10-2 in bowls.
 

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*Ohio St is 15-2 ATS since2001 when not laying at least 4 points
**Urban is 44-3 SU with at least 1 week off













*1 of those was vs Clemson
**1 of those was vs Clemson
 

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Anyone remember what Urbana D did to that high powered Ohio State O in 2006? 41-14 with Chris freaking Leak! Line should probably be around PK or Clemson slight fave but public perception and tOSU is a public bet as well as giving Urban points is not something the books want to do. Urban may not be out there on the field but he gets his guys prepared like no one else. The only way I see my team winning is if the Def can score some points, if they get Samuel involved more and they give Prince some blocking help. JT can't hold onto the ball as long as he has been either. They don't correct that stuff, they don't win. Clemson for sure has the experience and may be the "all around" better team but Clemson turns it over and our D creates TO's. That will be the big difference. If Clemson doesn't turn it over it may be a long day for OSU. Btw, Urban is 10-2 in bowls.

I do. I remember Ginn breaking his foot first play of the game and Troy Smith looking like he ate his Heisman. Urban at his finest, us against the world. Clemson is second in sacks, going up against an average o line. JT hasn t looked good the entire year, though I don t think the clemson back 7 is anything to write home about.

But like you alluded to, if Watson turns the ball over, osu wins. If he takes care of it, i see few scenarios OSU advances.
 

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completely valid arguments for tOSU.. I know Urb is a great coach and Clemson let's teams hang around. I think that's partially why the line is such.. it's also due to those trends above and tOSU popularity. the biggest thing Clemson has going for them is Watson. His play will decide this one.. but after watching him put 40 points on "the greatest college defense ever" in Alabama last season he's hard to go against. I took Clemson at 3 and ML because I truly believe the wrong team is favored. I'm expecting a tight, hard fought game. GLTA :toast:

Also- shout out to B Lang :):)
 

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Clemson has sucked donkey balls in the 3Q all season, and let teams hang around. Achilles heel. They won't give in though. After that TD and seeing basically no celebration I could tell the team is super focused. Not what I expected, it's better
 

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Agreed.. urban is a great coach, but he's not playing. Clemson has a bad habit of letting teams hang around but unless Watson doesn't show up or gets injured, Clemson has the better overall team and THEE Ohio State will fall short IMO. Think this line is 6 points off

way way off...
 

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