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Go fking figure...you wonder why the GOP will never dominate.

The piece of shit dems follow lock step whatever agenda is laid out before them.

Sickening.
 

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Trump fails to understand that perception is reality in terms of political failure. He keeps repeating that letting obamacare "explode" is good for him politically. It is not. Even if Obamacare was always going to collapse it is not politically expedient for Trump to allow this forthcoming disaster to become reality while he is the president. Even if his name is not on it.
 

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Republicans don't want to govern. It's too complicated for them. They are much more comfortable being in the minority and bitching about things and voting 57 times to repeal the ACA. They had 7 years to come up with a plan, and gave up after 2 weeks.

Just too complicated.
 
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It's really simple.

Obamacare was designed to gut the coverage of middle class workers by raising their premiums while also introducing crazy deductibles to their coverage. Also young people who were the least likely to use medical services were given raised premiums with big deductibles for services they were unlikely to use. Buying health insurance was made mandatory. So essentially it meant that young insureds and middle class insureds (heck throw in wealthy insureds) were now expected to pay higher premiums for less coverage. Coverage that would only apply in catastrophic circumstances.

Why were working class Americans' policies structured in such a way? To accommodate and pay for all the underclass who previously had no insurance but were encouraged to sign up for Obamacare. 20 million of them who previously only used emergency wards for emergency care. Now they were encouraged to bathe themselves in free care with no limitation.

How was that fair to the working class who were essentially paying for them (the underclass) but were themselves expected to pay for their first $5, 000 or $10,000 of annual care (their Obamacare deductibles)?

So now that the non paying outliers are completely immersed in the medical system at the cost of the working people, how does one get back to premiums for the working class that even approach affordable?

Add in soaring, unchecked medical costs for drugs and procedures, burgeoning lawsuits by unscrupulous patients and lawyers, and you have today's medical mess.

THERE IS NO CURE without coverages for the nonpayers being scaled back.

Democrats AND Republicans need to get together, put their special interests aside and decide on affordability for Americans who pay first, and those who don't second. Otherwise the whole damned thing is going to collapse.

Obama should have never invited all nonpayers into the system for carte blanche services while the payers have to go without because they cannot afford the services they need that are not covered by their huge deductibles, although their premiums are higher than ever.

But unsustainable costs never meant anything to Obama and his ilk, as long as his base had their free services expanded. He never gave a rats ass about the middle class. Nothing pisses me off more than when I heard him and his acolyte, Elizabeth Warren, talk about the things they are/ were doing for the middle class. Bullshit.

Some one please tell me how this crap is now supposed to be fixed. It can't be without taking all the nonpayers off the rolls again. THAT will never happen.

So when Republicans wanted to repeal Obamacare they had about a year to get it done. Seven years later the clusterfuck is part of the government landscape. They should have shut up six years ago.
 

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Republicans don't want to govern. It's too complicated for them. They are much more comfortable being in the minority and bitching about things and voting 57 times to repeal the ACA. They had 7 years to come up with a plan, and gave up after 2 weeks.

Just too complicated.
You're a sicko loser
 

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Go fking figure...you wonder why the GOP will never dominate.

The piece of shit dems follow lock step whatever agenda is laid out before them.

Sickening.

So not everything a Prez wants a Prez gets. That is just reality. It took Obama a year to push ACA thru. Republicans wanted to rush thru theirs. Why give up so easily???

BTW how many Republicans voted for ACA back in 2009? or even worked together with Dems.

Oh that is right.... zero
 

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Republicans don't want to govern. It's too complicated for them. They are much more comfortable being in the minority and bitching about things and voting 57 times to repeal the ACA. They had 7 years to come up with a plan, and gave up after 2 weeks.

Just too complicated.

hahaha, some people accomplish things in life, other people become democratic politicians

there's a reason why 1,050 democratic politicians joined all those other democrats in the unemployment line, they suck at everything

some people embrace suck, success is too complicated for them (and far too much work)
 

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Trump fails to understand that perception is reality in terms of political failure. He keeps repeating that letting obamacare "explode" is good for him politically. It is not. Even if Obamacare was always going to collapse it is not politically expedient for Trump to allow this forthcoming disaster to become reality while he is the president. Even if his name is not on it.

He thinks this is all a big game...I don't think he ever really thought he'd win. He doesn't want to put in any work. It's much easier tweeting about Obama playing golf...
 

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Paul Ryan Is Solely To Blame For RyanCare's Demise


Ryan's team repeatedly fumbled the ball, diluted the free-market message they should have been selling, and lost sight of the point of repealing ObamaCare — which was to bring down insurance costs for millions of middle class families who've seen their premiums skyrocket and their benefits diminish under ObamaCare.

The culmination of all this was a misbegotten bill that was far less free-market than Ryan's "Better Way" blueprint issued over the summer, and that kept in place the very regulations and mandates that were causing ObamaCare to fail in the first place.
 
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Obamacare was supposed to fail from the getgo so they could push farther for a single payer socialised/communistic government run system....Think your taxes are high now?
 

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So not everything a Prez wants a Prez gets. That is just reality. It took Obama a year to push ACA thru. Republicans wanted to rush thru theirs. Why give up so easily???

BTW how many Republicans voted for ACA back in 2009? or even worked together with Dems.

Oh that is right.... zero

Push? You mean bribe, and then ultimately use the Nuclear option?
Laughable fking losers.
 

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So not everything a Prez wants a Prez gets. That is just reality. It took Obama a year to push ACA thru. Republicans wanted to rush thru theirs. Why give up so easily???

BTW how many Republicans voted for ACA back in 2009? or even worked together with Dems.

Oh that is right.... zero

Work together with Dems? On what, imposing state-run healthcare on free people?

Let it collapse, it will serve them right. Republicans should have no part in this Democrat-engineered disaster.

Oh, and if you really want to help "fix healthcare" first try enrolling in Supply and Demand 101.

WE TOLD YOU SO!

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Rand Paul will now get to pass a real bill as this was a pile of dogshit. Not sure if Gasman thinks this a good bill or not but if he does i dont think he understood it.
 

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Rand Paul will now get to pass a real bill as this was a pile of dogshit. Not sure if Gasman thinks this a good bill or not but if he does i dont think he understood it.

Only because the RINOs told everyone they have to pass the bill to find out what is in it.

:pucking:
 

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