Are the Celtics the worst #1 seed in NBA history?

Enfuego · Apr 18, 2017

How embarrassing not that they've just lost but blown the fuck out.

HarryCaray · Apr 18, 2017

C's series is worth a look depending on the line that they put up.

Bulls will probably fuck it up.

PatsFan1283 · Apr 18, 2017

I knew they overachieved in the regular season, didn't think they would get spanked by Chicago but it isn't too surprising. Team has holes.

They did more with less all year, nothing embarrassing about that.

Dreams of getting Wizards at + money rd 2 are over though

Willie99 · Apr 18, 2017

playing scared, something has to change in their heads for them to have a chance

some of the shit tonight was just plain ugly (and stupid)

some of their passes were absolutely WTF!!!! moments

bobbyjones2 · Apr 18, 2017

Remember when people were excited to sign Al Hortford?

Rondo doing a number on IT.

PatsFan1283 · Apr 18, 2017

Their problem isn't being timid or anything related to mindset. Maybe there is some pressing when things go wrong, but that's any team.

It's talent, they don't have a lot of it. Their best offensive player is 5'9.

Enfuego · Apr 18, 2017

PatsFan1283 said:
Their problem isn't being timid or anything related to mindset. Maybe there is some pressing when things go wrong, but that's any team.

It's talent, they don't have a lot of it. Their best offensive player is 5'9.

And Crowder continuing to jack up 3's. I like him but he's not a scorer.

HarryCaray · Apr 18, 2017

PatsFan1283 said:
Their problem isn't being timid or anything related to mindset. Maybe there is some pressing when things go wrong, but that's any team.

It's talent, they don't have a lot of it. Their best offensive player is 5'9.

The Bulls aren't exactly loaded either. They have the best player on the floor but their depth is atrocious.

PatsFan1283 · Apr 18, 2017

Him jacking 3's is a function of if IT isn't dropping 35 their offense just isn't that good. Everyone becomes worse when their role gets bigger than their game.

Smart has actually been jacking way more threes than you would want him to as well, although he has been hitting. It's just guys taking on outsized roles because of circumstance. That's basketball.

PatsFan1283 · Apr 18, 2017

HarryCaray said:
The Bulls aren't exactly loaded either. They have the best player on the floor but their depth is atrocious.

Yeah, I said in the Wizards thread I was thinking of fading C's rd 1 and was bearish on them in general but I just wasn't feeling the Bulls. Should've just taken them.

I didn't really expect them to take it to the C's like that, but I'm not surprised either.

texansfan · Apr 18, 2017

What about when the 8th seeded Nuggets beat the #1 seeded Sonics? Sonics won 63 games that year.

Willie99 · Apr 18, 2017

PatsFan1283 said:
Their problem isn't being timid or anything related to mindset. Maybe there is some pressing when things go wrong, but that's any team.

It's talent, they don't have a lot of it. Their best offensive player is 5'9.

I disagree about the mindset, maybe because they're feeling pressure or maybe it's because they're all trying to do too much

but when an NBA players drives, then leaves his feet, then tries to throw a cross court pass that defenders only need to catch to steal, they're playing scared and stupid

they have to play composed team basketball, and they're not

and that's not an excuse, it's the reason why they're being outplayed

they made Rondo look like a star tonight, passing to him like he was still wearing green

Willie99 · Apr 18, 2017

texansfan said:
What about when the 8th seeded Nuggets beat the #1 seeded Sonics? Sonics won 63 games that year.

maybe they are the worst one seed ever, did they win the fewest games for a one seed?

C's only won 53 games

Enfuego · Apr 18, 2017

texansfan said:
What about when the 8th seeded Nuggets beat the #1 seeded Sonics? Sonics won 63 games that year.

The Sonics didn't underachieve that year. They were the best team by far in the West. They just shit the bed against the Nuggets.

PatsFan1283 · Apr 18, 2017

Willie99 said:
I disagree about the mindset, maybe because they're feeling pressure or maybe it's because they're all trying to do too much

but when an NBA players drives, then leaves his feet, then tries to throw a cross court pass that defenders only need to catch to steal, they're playing scared and stupid

they have to play composed team basketball, and they're not

and that's not an excuse, it's the reason why they're being outplayed

they made Rondo look like a star tonight, passing to him like he was still wearing green

But the players who are making errors trying to create their own shot or create a shot for others really aren't good at doing it. Against playoff intensity/attention to detail, you're going to have problems when that happens.

You can call it scared, stupid or whatever but it mostly stems from talent deficiency at that aspect of the game. IT is really their only guy who can create offense consistently.

As far as Rondo. IT is 5'9, yeah maybe Rondo giving it to him is a surprise given how bad he has been the last few yrs but with increased gameplanning/strategy, teams working to expose IT's defense more isn't very surprising.

Some of it is unforced but it isn't like the Bulls don't seem like the more talented team.

Enfuego · Apr 18, 2017

Enfuego said:
The Sonics didn't underachieve that year. They were the best team by far in the West. They just shit the bed against the Nuggets.

I meant overachieve. My bad.

PatsFanatic · Apr 19, 2017

To me the effort isn't there. It shows on defense and in their lack of rebounding. Yeah, rebounding is size, its also desire. They look distracted and uninterested at times.

BostonBettor · Apr 19, 2017

They played so poorly last night. Way too many mistakes and giveaways. Rebounding has been horrible all year and the Bulls are killing them on the boards. I thought the C's would at least get through the first round. Ugly.

Willie99 · Apr 19, 2017

maybe IT's sister's tragic death adversely impacted their preparation and mindset, you have to be clicking on all cylinders at this time of year (especially for a team like the C's)

PatsFanatic · Apr 19, 2017

BostonBettor said:
They played so poorly last night. Way too many mistakes and giveaways. Rebounding has been horrible all year and the Bulls are killing them on the boards. I thought the C's would at least get through the first round. Ugly.

It isn't over yet, but going to be tough to overcome two losses at home.

Maybe after the funeral they will get focused and turn the tables....catch the Bulls asleep at the wheel like they have been.

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