Stoops retiring out of the blue?

sdf · Jun 7, 2017

very surprising. not about health, which is excellent news.

But less than 3 months before the season starts and he decides to retire :think2:

Probably wouldnt affect too many incoming freshmen I wouldnt think, but still....the coach they signed for leaves before they take a snap.

the rest of the conference might have a chance now....

TheFalls · Jun 7, 2017

I smell a rat

HamGlaze · Jun 8, 2017

cloverleaf · Jun 8, 2017

I never was a great fan of Stoops but one of his records is STRONG for me.

The man only had NINE losses at home in 18 seasons.

Damn strong!

rolltide · Jun 8, 2017

The Falls said:
I smell a rat

not sure where you're going with this (recruiting violation? lawsuit coming?) ....

i think this is 100% health-related but he just doesn't want to disclose it right now. if so, it will come out

GoSooners · Jun 8, 2017

rolltide said:
not sure where you're going with this (recruiting violation? lawsuit coming?) ....

i think this is 100% health-related but he just doesn't want to disclose it right now. if so, it will come out

Anything is possible I suppose. But Stoops said it didn't have anything to do with his health. But it might have had something to do with his dad dying so young before he was able to enjoy retirement. If you look at the big picture, Stoops really didn't have anywhere to go but down. He wasn't going to win a NC with the Big 12 in the current state it is in. As it stands with 10 teams, the future doesn't look good for the conference in football. Plus it's well known around here that Stoops has amassed an enormous amount of wealth. With what he's made, what his wife has made, and some smart investments, he has the kind of wealth that will pay out their entire lives. Just my opinion, but I think his dad had more to do with it than anything else.

rolltide · Jun 10, 2017

GoSooners said:
He wasn't going to win a NC with the Big 12 in the current state it is in.

not getting this one at all

seems he had a much better chance to win a natty with the big 12 in complete mess. lack of decent competition pretty much assures an unbeaten OU getting to the final 4 like they did 2 years ago even with 1 loss. there's just not that many potential losses on the schedule. It could probably be said that, annually, OU had the best opportunity in the country to make the playoff each year as their talent disparity over the rest of the conference is the greatest in ncaaf.

and wealth is rarely a consideration with these dudes. all great coaches are rich beyond any needs they will ever have...they're just built with a different dna that craves competition and achievement...money is just something that comes along with it

he said 6-7 years ago he wasn't going to push it and my guess is that his doc told him that his situation is in decline. i'm not saying he needs to have some debilitating disease....

GoSooners · Jun 10, 2017

rolltide said:
not getting this one at all

seems he had a much better chance to win a natty with the big 12 in complete mess. lack of decent competition pretty much assures an unbeaten OU getting to the final 4 like they did 2 years ago even with 1 loss. there's just not that many potential losses on the schedule. It could probably be said that, annually, OU had the best opportunity in the country to make the playoff each year as their talent disparity over the rest of the conference is the greatest in ncaaf.

and wealth is rarely a consideration with these dudes. all great coaches are rich beyond any needs they will ever have...they're just built with a different dna that craves competition and achievement...money is just something that comes along with it

he said 6-7 years ago he wasn't going to push it and my guess is that his doc told him that his situation is in decline. i'm not saying he needs to have some debilitating disease....

You pretty much answered the question with your first sentence. When was the last time a team won the NC with a lack of decent competition during the season? There's a reason why the Big 12 and Pac-12 haven't won a championship in over a decade. Inferior competition to conferences in the south and Ohio State. Speaking of Ohio St, I doubt seriously if a first year coach like Riley can go into the Horseshoe and beat Meyer on his first try. OU would pretty much have to run the table after that loss. Not easy to do despite the easier competition (but some tricky road games). A Round Robin format which will now have an extra championship game.

cloverleaf · Jun 10, 2017

I expect growing pains with Riley this season just like Smart went through at Georgia last year.

Keeping the coaching staff on the same page could prove difficult if the team sputters, especially early.

On Stoops: Didn't he just build a multi-million dollar home in Norman last year?

GoSooners · Jun 10, 2017

cloverleaf said:
I expect growing pains with Riley this season just like Smart went through at Georgia last year.

Keeping the coaching staff on the same page could prove difficult if the team sputters, especially early.

On Stoops: Didn't he just build a multi-million dollar home in Norman last year?

He's lived there for the last few years. I haven't really heard anything definite about Stoops moving. I know he doesn't like Norman nearly as much as his brother Mike. So I expect a move at some time in the near future. But he might stick around this year to make sure the transition to Riley goes smooth. Where he goes from there is anybody's guess. Some think he will stay retired, and some think he comes out of retirement in a year or two and coach again. I can tell you that Stoops didn't enjoy his job nearly as much in recent years than he did in his first decade here. He's not as maniacally driven as a Saban or Meyer, so he was starting to get beat down by the day to day duties. At least that's what I've heard from people close to the program...I don't really think he'll go the Mack Brown route either and do TV commentary. Stoops never has liked the media in any form, and to me always seems uncomfortable in front of the cameras.

Conan · Jun 10, 2017

GoSooners said:
You pretty much answered the question with your first sentence. When was the last time a team won the NC with a lack of decent competition during the season? There's a reason why the Big 12 and Pac-12 haven't won a championship in over a decade. Inferior competition to conferences in the south and Ohio State. Speaking of Ohio St, I doubt seriously if a first year coach like Riley can go into the Horseshoe and beat Meyer on his first try. OU would pretty much have to run the table after that loss. Not easy to do despite the easier competition (but some tricky road games). A Round Robin format which will now have an extra championship game.

I agree that the Huskers have little chance at upending tOSU in Columbus....
But just wait 'til they play in Lincoln... Riley destroyed USC's run at a NC more
than once when the Beavers (OSU) played the Trojans in their hometown (Corvallis.)
He seems to be a pretty good motivator.

Conan · Jun 10, 2017

OK now I see it. Meyer has 2 Riley's to worry about.

rolltide · Jun 10, 2017

GoSooners said:
You pretty much answered the question with your first sentence. When was the last time a team won the NC with a lack of decent competition during the season? There's a reason why the Big 12 and Pac-12 haven't won a championship in over a decade. Inferior competition to conferences in the south and Ohio State.

funny you tell me i answered my own question then you immediately answered your own question ... ohio state (insert head scratch emoticon here) clearly won a title by getting to the playoff against inferior competition much the same way OU could have done it

i'm not sure how you're missing the point here. anyway, you're missing it. OU has everything in place to get to final 4 with the easiest route available and, as OSU showed just a few years ago, once you're there you can win it.

RunLeeRun · Jun 11, 2017

Conan said:
I agree that the Huskers have little chance at upending tOSU in Columbus....
But just wait 'til they play in Lincoln... Riley destroyed USC's run at a NC more
than once when the Beavers (OSU) played the Trojans in their hometown (Corvallis.)
He seems to be a pretty good motivator.

Conan said:
OK now I see it. Meyer has 2 Riley's to worry about.

Lol. Two Lincoln's, two Riley's all wrapped up in one season...wait, my astral feelers are picking up something... Oklahoma is going to the Big Ten. Yes, the signs align. The last piece was the human sacrifice. Bob offered his life.

And Conan, this was an honest mistake given your closet Husker apparel. Between us, I'm quietly giddy (don't mental image that) about the QB issue in Lincoln.

Conan · Jun 11, 2017

RunLeeRun said:
Lol. Two Lincoln's, two Riley's all wrapped up in one season...wait, my astral feelers are picking up something... Oklahoma is going to the Big Ten. Yes, the signs align. The last piece was the human sacrifice. Bob offered his life.

And Conan, this was an honest mistake given your closet Husker apparel. Between us, I'm quietly giddy (don't mental image that) about the QB issue in Lincoln.

2 OSU's for 2 Riley's (One is and one was... but both count)

I think you may be getting a bit giddy soon about Nebraska's rushing game if Riley continues
to be true to form. He is known to recruit all-conference or all-American RB's that no one
noticed much at first. Always a strong running game. How's that for QB support?

RunLeeRun · Jun 13, 2017

Conan said:
2 OSU's for 2 Riley's (One is and one was... but both count)

I think you may be getting a bit giddy soon about Nebraska's rushing game if Riley continues
to be true to form. He is known to recruit all-conference or all-American RB's that no one
noticed much at first. Always a strong running game. How's that for QB support?

That's exactly who they are recruiting at RB...not really by choice. It's the one true recruiting weakness right now. Luckily for him, the best local, and unnoticed, high school RB in ten years fell into his lap this last year. I think this is the year of the pass, though. All the strengths lean that way: qb, wr's and blocking ability. You can use the short pass/screen game as an extension of the run game, otherwise 60%+ pass is a tough formula for winning the division.

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