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    First off, I never cared for Jones and I have much dislike for the guy personally. I've been involved in MMA/boxing for 30+ years, so I will get to the point. Jones is a true HW who fails to fight in his own division. Yes, he has the great ability to drop much weight and put it back on (drug induced or not) in time. DC is a true HW and has fought some of the best in HW and beat them easily. Him coming down is not easy, but for Jones, he knows along with Dana that he would have no shot in the HW division. If you look back on all the fighters Jones beat, they were all smaller than him and some were 185 fighters who moved up to 205. His weight, height, and reach is all he had/has. He either had a draw with Gus or Gus beat him,...Gus was almost his exact size in height and reach and looked how that fight turned out. Be a man and fight in your own division, but HW would prove unlucky for him. He has spared with Alister and Arlovski, he was thrown and with ease. If he beats DC, it will be slim margin at best. He will not hurt DC. I believe DC is the all around better fighter career wise simple because of what he did in HW and what he is doing in LHW. Jones would not be able to beat any of the top 8 HW fighters. He would lose 13/15 of those fights I believe...


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    LOL at people with this "fight in your own division" talk.
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    You can only make the HW point if Jones has trouble / struggles making 205 ........ Never does.
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    Also ... who are these great HW's you speak of that DC beat ??


    Lucus Browne ?
    Tony Johnson ?
    Soa Palelei ?
    Jeff Monson ?
    Josh Barnett ?
    Bigfoot Silva ?
    Roy Nelson ?
    Frank Mir ?


    lol ... Jones would spark all those guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by New York Knight View Post
    Also ... who are these great HW's you speak of that DC beat ??


    Lucus Browne ?
    Tony Johnson ?
    Soa Palelei ?
    Jeff Monson ?
    Josh Barnett ?
    Bigfoot Silva ?
    Roy Nelson ?
    Frank Mir ?


    lol ... Jones would spark all those guys
    He would lose 7 out of those 8. You have no idea the strength/power difference between LWH and HW and Jones has neither.
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    I know the difference and no way would he lose 7 out of 8 ... never. That's just silly talk.

    You are biased against Jones to begin with, so of course you're right and I'm wrong about this topic.

    Also IMO, Jones would beat more guys on that top 16 list than Fat Dan would.
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    Except for DC, all these other guys were mostly 185-205 at best

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    Quote Originally Posted by New York Knight View Post
    I know the difference and no way would he lose 7 out of 8 ... never. That's just silly talk.

    You are biased against Jones to begin with, so of course you're right and I'm wrong about this topic.

    Also IMO, Jones would beat more guys on that top 16 list than Fat Dan would.
    Why isn't he there? The HW belt is where it is at. He is asking for Brock, he would get killed. That's stupid talk

    Alister and AA threw him with ease, but no one wants to mention that either.

    In December, Jones said he wants “to challenge for the heavyweight title.”
    “I know that I’m capable,” he told Joe Rogan on his podcast. “I just want to make sure I compete against the right stylistic matchup for me when I go to heavyweight and challenge for that title.”

    "right stylistic matchup"
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    Why isn't he there? Because its not his weight division that's why.

    All the guys he beat of course were 185-205 (give or take) ... that's the size of most fighters that fight LHW

    He has owned 205 and the only reason you want him at HW is because you don't like him and want to see him lose.
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    Also HW belt is where its at???

    It's by far the worst division in the UFC
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    Jones wins easy.... my 2 cents. Don't really understand ur reasoning and fight math at all but appreciate ur angle.
    He did already beat him. Not that it means he can't lose.
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    You've been involved with mma for 30 years and you have no clue what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherday? View Post
    first off, i never cared for jones and i have much dislike for the guy personally. I've been involved in mma/boxing for 30+ years, so i will get to the point. Jones is a true hw who fails to fight in his own division. Yes, he has the great ability to drop much weight and put it back on (drug induced or not) in time. Dc is a true hw and has fought some of the best in hw and beat them easily. Him coming down is not easy, but for jones, he knows along with dana that he would have no shot in the hw division. If you look back on all the fighters jones beat, they were all smaller than him and some were 185 fighters who moved up to 205. His weight, height, and reach is all he had/has. He either had a draw with gus or gus beat him,...gus was almost his exact size in height and reach and looked how that fight turned out. Be a man and fight in your own division, but hw would prove unlucky for him. He has spared with alister and arlovski, he was thrown and with ease. If he beats dc, it will be slim margin at best. He will not hurt dc. I believe dc is the all around better fighter career wise simple because of what he did in hw and what he is doing in lhw. Jones would not be able to beat any of the top 8 hw fighters. He would lose 13/15 of those fights i believe...


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    Quote Originally Posted by big wang View Post
    You've been involved with mma for 30 years and you have no clue what you are talking about.
    When he moves to HW, then come talk to me
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    How does AD only have 3k posts? I feel like I've read some version of "Jones is overrated because XYZ" from him atleast 2,900 times. "

    "If he beats DC, it will be slim margin at best. He will not hurt DC." CHECK

    Next up "He is asking for Brock. He would get killed."

    Gotta be right eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    How does AD only have 3k posts? I feel like I've read some version of "Jones is overrated because XYZ" from him atleast 2,900 times. "

    "If he beats DC, it will be slim margin at best. He will not hurt DC." CHECK

    Next up "He is asking for Brock. He would get killed."

    Gotta be right eventually.
    Your the close friend of that sissy Pats QB right?

    DC was hurt once in 8 rounds, so be it. Talk to me when he fights in HW. Brock will be 41 if they fight, too old in the game for him
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    You just said Brock would kill him a few days ago. Now a few days later, he's "too old".....Way to keep that conviction.

    Funny how that works once that the fight is a legit possibility. Good job walking it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    You just said Brock would kill him a few days ago. Now a few days later, he's "too old".....Way to keep that conviction.

    Funny how that works once that the fight is a legit possibility. Good job walking it back.
    Exactly. To add,he's also said Werdum would kill Jones,he's also 40,Arlovski would too,he's 38, Overeem,who's 37,and Mark Hunt,who's 43. I could go on,but we already know this dude is FOS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMatt View Post
    Exactly. To add,he's also said Werdum would kill Jones,he's also 40,Arlovski would too,he's 38, Overeem,who's 37,and Mark Hunt,who's 43. I could go on,but we already know this dude is FOS...
    Brock has not been a full-time fighter in 6 years and only had one fight in 6 years...those others mentioned above would have no problem with Jones
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANOTHERDAY? View Post
    Brock has not been a full-time fighter in 6 years and only had one fight in 6 years...those others mentioned above would have no problem with Jones
    6 years huh? Just yesterday Brock would smash Jones. You said it,not me,remember...
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    Seems like your 30 years in the sport caused you some permanent brain damage, which led to memory loss.

    So let me direct you to post #8, where you say Brock will kill Jones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    Seems like your 30 years in the sport caused you some permanent brain damage, which led to memory loss.

    So let me direct you to post #8, where you say Brock will kill Jones.
    That's stupid talk!
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