Dave I know this doesn't answer your question but here is a transcript of Balt mayor's interview on CNN this AM:
BERMAN: So it didn't stop last night. In Baltimore, four confederate monuments taken down, including one of Confederate General Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. They were removed before dawn, barely two days after the Baltimore city council voted unanimously to remove them following the violence in Charlottesville.
I'm joined now by Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh.
Mayor, thank you so much for being with us.
I guess let's start with what you did and why you did it so quickly last night. Explain that.
MAYOR CATHERINE PUGH (D), BALTIMORE: Well, let me just say that it was Monday that I let the city council know, and the president of the city council first, that we were going to be moving quickly and quietly as related to the confederate statues because in 2015, I believe it was, the former mayor set up a task force and they issued a report to this -- some of the members of this city council in August of 2016 and so nothing really had been done since then.
And the things that are occurring around this country, I believe as a mayor, I have a responsibility to make sure that my city is safe and that we have more harmony in our communities. And so last night I said to the council prior to that I was meeting with contractors, I was making sure that I dotted my i's and crossed my t's and that I was going to move quickly. And I did. Quietly, as I said that I would, starting around 11:30 last night, and finished up about 5:00 a.m. So I know I look tired.
BERMAN: Right. You don't look tired. I'm the one who looks tired here.
The president asked the question of when -- when will it stop? And suggested if you're going to remove the statues of Robert E. Lee, do you then take down statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson? Do you have plans to remove the statues or memorials to George Washington in the city of Baltimore?
[09:55:11] PUGH: We have no such plans. And let me just be real clear. You know this whole movement of us taking an inward look at what we are putting up in front of people in our cities throughout the nation really began in July of -- I believe that was June of 2015 when the white supremacists killed nine people in South Carolina. I think that's what began this study that took place in Baltimore.
And people are rallying all across this nation wanting confederate statues to be torn down. And I think that if anybody had listened to Mayor Landrieu's speech and other speeches regarding why they should be taken down, I just thought there was no need for fanfare. Let's just get it done and move forward.
BERMAN: Do you think -- what did you think when you heard the president make that connection, though, between, you know, Stonewall Jackson, for instance, and, you know, President George Washington? Do you think they are on the same moral plane?
PUGH: Well, let me just say, this movement here is about white supremacy. It is about confederate statues. It is about what you should be doing for the people in your city and your communities.
You know, I have so many things to focus on in Baltimore. You know, we're right now just choosing our monitor for our consent decree. You know, making sure that our young people are working. Making sure that people understand that we can move our city forward. So President Trump has his issues. Catherine Pugh, as the mayor of Baltimore city, is working for the people of our city.
BERMAN: Sure. And I appreciate that. And the president did say that he did feel it was up to the local communities and states and cities and whatnot to make decisions for themselves. Obviously, though, you're not just the mayor of Baltimore. You're also
African-American. And I am curious, when you have gazed upon the statue of Robert E. Lee your whole life in your city, you know, growing up and seeing it as an African-American, what feelings did it give you?
PUGH: Well, let me be clear, I'm not originally from Baltimore. I am the mayor of this great city. So I didn't gaze on this statue of Robert E. Lee.
But let me just say, what I do believe that it is a part of our history and there should be something that says why that statue was once there, what it represented and, more importantly, why it should not be there. Because you know the confederacy did not fight to unite this country and we are the United States of America. We should be focused on how we become a more united, a more loving city, state, country and that we will find out that we have more in common than we don't. And that if we work together, our city, our state, our country, our nation, this world will be a better place for all of us.
So I just think there's too much hate going on and we need to just move forward as a community and we need to understand that loving each other and working together is what this nation needs. And that's what we intend for Baltimore city because, as I said, we've got a lot of things to focus on. And the statues should not be a distraction.
BERMAN: We will let you get back to work. Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh, thank you for your time. Thank you for letting us know why you made the decision you did. Thanks.
All right, happening right now, mourners are lining up for the memorial service for Heather Heyer. She is the woman who was killed during the Charlottesville protest. A city, a nation remembers her.
BERMAN: So it didn't stop last night. In Baltimore, four confederate monuments taken down, including one of Confederate General Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. They were removed before dawn, barely two days after the Baltimore city council voted unanimously to remove them following the violence in Charlottesville.
I'm joined now by Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh.
Mayor, thank you so much for being with us.
I guess let's start with what you did and why you did it so quickly last night. Explain that.
MAYOR CATHERINE PUGH (D), BALTIMORE: Well, let me just say that it was Monday that I let the city council know, and the president of the city council first, that we were going to be moving quickly and quietly as related to the confederate statues because in 2015, I believe it was, the former mayor set up a task force and they issued a report to this -- some of the members of this city council in August of 2016 and so nothing really had been done since then.
And the things that are occurring around this country, I believe as a mayor, I have a responsibility to make sure that my city is safe and that we have more harmony in our communities. And so last night I said to the council prior to that I was meeting with contractors, I was making sure that I dotted my i's and crossed my t's and that I was going to move quickly. And I did. Quietly, as I said that I would, starting around 11:30 last night, and finished up about 5:00 a.m. So I know I look tired.
BERMAN: Right. You don't look tired. I'm the one who looks tired here.
The president asked the question of when -- when will it stop? And suggested if you're going to remove the statues of Robert E. Lee, do you then take down statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson? Do you have plans to remove the statues or memorials to George Washington in the city of Baltimore?
[09:55:11] PUGH: We have no such plans. And let me just be real clear. You know this whole movement of us taking an inward look at what we are putting up in front of people in our cities throughout the nation really began in July of -- I believe that was June of 2015 when the white supremacists killed nine people in South Carolina. I think that's what began this study that took place in Baltimore.
And people are rallying all across this nation wanting confederate statues to be torn down. And I think that if anybody had listened to Mayor Landrieu's speech and other speeches regarding why they should be taken down, I just thought there was no need for fanfare. Let's just get it done and move forward.
BERMAN: Do you think -- what did you think when you heard the president make that connection, though, between, you know, Stonewall Jackson, for instance, and, you know, President George Washington? Do you think they are on the same moral plane?
PUGH: Well, let me just say, this movement here is about white supremacy. It is about confederate statues. It is about what you should be doing for the people in your city and your communities.
You know, I have so many things to focus on in Baltimore. You know, we're right now just choosing our monitor for our consent decree. You know, making sure that our young people are working. Making sure that people understand that we can move our city forward. So President Trump has his issues. Catherine Pugh, as the mayor of Baltimore city, is working for the people of our city.
BERMAN: Sure. And I appreciate that. And the president did say that he did feel it was up to the local communities and states and cities and whatnot to make decisions for themselves. Obviously, though, you're not just the mayor of Baltimore. You're also
African-American. And I am curious, when you have gazed upon the statue of Robert E. Lee your whole life in your city, you know, growing up and seeing it as an African-American, what feelings did it give you?
PUGH: Well, let me be clear, I'm not originally from Baltimore. I am the mayor of this great city. So I didn't gaze on this statue of Robert E. Lee.
But let me just say, what I do believe that it is a part of our history and there should be something that says why that statue was once there, what it represented and, more importantly, why it should not be there. Because you know the confederacy did not fight to unite this country and we are the United States of America. We should be focused on how we become a more united, a more loving city, state, country and that we will find out that we have more in common than we don't. And that if we work together, our city, our state, our country, our nation, this world will be a better place for all of us.
So I just think there's too much hate going on and we need to just move forward as a community and we need to understand that loving each other and working together is what this nation needs. And that's what we intend for Baltimore city because, as I said, we've got a lot of things to focus on. And the statues should not be a distraction.
BERMAN: We will let you get back to work. Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh, thank you for your time. Thank you for letting us know why you made the decision you did. Thanks.
All right, happening right now, mourners are lining up for the memorial service for Heather Heyer. She is the woman who was killed during the Charlottesville protest. A city, a nation remembers her.
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Davidson: The Left’s Impulse To Tear Down Confederate Statues Is Like Mao’s Cultural Revolution
'These are tactics that are well-known. You start by tearing down statues and burning books, and eventually you go after people.'
AUGUST 16, 2017 By The Federalist Staff
Federalist senior correspondent John Daniel Davidson joined Fox News’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight” to explain why the Left’s impulse to tear down Confederate monuments is totalitarian. Davidson noted that leftists calling for the destruction of statues memorializing Confederate figures has been going on for quite some time.
“I remember two years ago we had the 150th anniversary of the Confederate surrender and you had people in the mainstream media at that time calling for the desecration of Confederate graves,” Davidson said. “Not just tearing down statues but digging up remains, removing them. You know, bulldozing over cemeteries — and this iconoclastic impulse is native to the Left. This is what China’s cultural revolution was all about. If you want to see where tearing down statues by mobs will get you, look at pictures of China’s cultural revolution where they tore down statues, temples.”
“This is not about the Confederacy,” he continued. “This is not about the Civil War. This is about political power and it’s about a small group of people on the Left trying to exert outside influence on American politics by following in the footsteps of Mao, of the armed thugs in Weimar Republic, of the Taliban. These are tactics that are well-known. You start by tearing down statues, and burning books, and eventually you go after people.”
“This is what happens with identity politics,” he said. “If you push identity politics, eventually you get around to identity politics for white people, which is a dangerous thing in a country that has a huge white majority. You know, this is why the Left has been sowing these seeds of what’s been happening for a long time. Are they surprised eventually some white people are going to say, ‘Yeah, let’s do identity politics,’ and we have white identity politics. It’s all poisonous garbage.”
“It’s totally un-American, too,” Davidson said of the totalitarian impulses exhibited by both leftist protestors and white supremacists. “America is not about ethnicity. It’s not about national origin. It’s about creed. There is no place in the American constitutional system for identity politics, left or right. Plain and simple.”
'These are tactics that are well-known. You start by tearing down statues and burning books, and eventually you go after people.'
AUGUST 16, 2017 By The Federalist Staff
Federalist senior correspondent John Daniel Davidson joined Fox News’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight” to explain why the Left’s impulse to tear down Confederate monuments is totalitarian. Davidson noted that leftists calling for the destruction of statues memorializing Confederate figures has been going on for quite some time.
“I remember two years ago we had the 150th anniversary of the Confederate surrender and you had people in the mainstream media at that time calling for the desecration of Confederate graves,” Davidson said. “Not just tearing down statues but digging up remains, removing them. You know, bulldozing over cemeteries — and this iconoclastic impulse is native to the Left. This is what China’s cultural revolution was all about. If you want to see where tearing down statues by mobs will get you, look at pictures of China’s cultural revolution where they tore down statues, temples.”
“This is not about the Confederacy,” he continued. “This is not about the Civil War. This is about political power and it’s about a small group of people on the Left trying to exert outside influence on American politics by following in the footsteps of Mao, of the armed thugs in Weimar Republic, of the Taliban. These are tactics that are well-known. You start by tearing down statues, and burning books, and eventually you go after people.”
“This is what happens with identity politics,” he said. “If you push identity politics, eventually you get around to identity politics for white people, which is a dangerous thing in a country that has a huge white majority. You know, this is why the Left has been sowing these seeds of what’s been happening for a long time. Are they surprised eventually some white people are going to say, ‘Yeah, let’s do identity politics,’ and we have white identity politics. It’s all poisonous garbage.”
“It’s totally un-American, too,” Davidson said of the totalitarian impulses exhibited by both leftist protestors and white supremacists. “America is not about ethnicity. It’s not about national origin. It’s about creed. There is no place in the American constitutional system for identity politics, left or right. Plain and simple.”
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You're right Scott it doesn't answer the ? but what is do is
shed some light on the thought process of a fool. I was going
to mention an article I read today but Joe beat me to it in
post #7. I was hoping there was some rationale behind this stupidity
but if there is I'm clueless.
You're right Scott it doesn't answer the ? but what is do is
shed some light on the thought process of a fool. I was going
to mention an article I read today but Joe beat me to it in
post #7. I was hoping there was some rationale behind this stupidity
but if there is I'm clueless.
PUGH: We have no such plans. And let me just be real clear. You know this whole movement of us taking an inward look at what we are putting up in front of people in our cities throughout the nation really began in July of -- I believe that was June of 2015 when the white supremacists killed nine people in South Carolina. I think that's what began this study that took place in Baltimore.
She is another Democrat nut job.
A lone wolf.
She is another Democrat nut job.
A lone wolf.
PUGH: We have no such plans. And let me just be real clear. You know this whole movement of us taking an inward look at what we are putting up in front of people in our cities throughout the nation really began in July of -- I believe that was June of 2015 when the white supremacists killed nine people in South Carolina. I think that's what began this study that took place in Baltimore.
She is another Democrat nut job.
A lone wolf.
She? He? Looks like a tranny to me.
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One thing about Liberals they never let facts stand in their way.PUGH: We have no such plans. And let me just be real clear. You know this whole movement of us taking an inward look at what we are putting up in front of people in our cities throughout the nation really began in July of -- I believe that was June of 2015 when the white supremacists killed nine people in South Carolina. I think that's what began this study that took place in Baltimore.
She is another Democrat nut job.
A lone wolf.
Well he should know. He wasn't born that way. It took a slut for a mother, a couple of fathers
+7
Barack Obama's Tweet has been liked more than 2.9 million times and has been retweeted by 1.2 million people making it the most popular message in the social network's history
and some radical mentors to shape his mind.
Statues in Kentucky are coming down. Fuck off.
I suspect you already know the answer, but what better way to start their quest to tear down this country by erasing its history? They'll say "well, I mean...George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were just white slave owners!"
Good...so by that logic, when do we start tearing down statues and memorials of Robert Byrd? There is more shit named after him than anything else in West Virginia...roads, buildings on the WVU campus, etc.
Oh, right. I almost forgot. He apologized once for his past, so it's all good with dimocraps.
