3 Accused Of Manipulating Dice In Craps For $56,000

HacheMan · Aug 19, 2017

2 on the run, 1 arrested after casino cheating scheme nets $56,000
WGNO Web Desk
August 18, 2017

he Louisiana State Police are looking for two men accused of cheating a Baton Rouge casino out of more than $50,000 after troopers arrested a third at the airport.

Thirty-five-year-old Allan Arana, 42-year-old Lim R. Tan, and 47-year-old Jaime Iglesias are accused of running a “dice sliding” scam at one of the casino’s craps tables on August 9.

Arana is accused of manipulating the dice while the other two placed bets to increase the odds of a big payout, according to the LSP.

The trio walked away with $56,000.

Soon after hitting up the Baton Rouge casino, Arana was arrested in Natchez, Mississippi, for running a similar scam.

HacheMan · Aug 19, 2017

For those out there who are casino experts....Can you please explain how this comes about?
You can't hold & throw the dice however you like?

Everyone has to chunk them across the table the same way?

And if they knew they were doing this, why didn't they stop them while in action??

PatsFan1283 · Aug 19, 2017

If they think that you can win with dice control then they will shut you off. But I dunno what the criminal charges would be coming from.

Probably more to the story.

Greenbacks · Aug 19, 2017

Betallsports · Aug 19, 2017

Hache Man said:
For those out there who are casino experts....Can you please explain how this comes about?
You can't hold & throw the dice however you like?

Everyone has to chunk them across the table the same way?

And if they knew they were doing this, why didn't they stop them while in action??

When throwing the dice, they want you to hit the Wall at every throw.
On the back wall there is a Rubber fill with spike like shapes, this is to make the dice hit off it so you have no control at all.

In this case they were Sliding the Dice across the table.
So let's say the number you need to hit is a 6, you set up the dice to face up on a 6, and slide the dice across the table, thus hitting your number.

It's one of the oldest scams on a dice table.

I'll find a video and post it

Betallsports · Aug 19, 2017

not really a good video, but you get the idea

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/duFEkIVP4KU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BigAltheShoeman · Aug 19, 2017

example: Cheating Vegas - The Slide Shot

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/W2Jz9UenEPg" allowfullscreen="" height="360" frameborder="0" width="640"></iframe>[/video]

halekulani · Aug 19, 2017

in my experience you can prob get one or two throws in max before a pit boss comes over to tell you both die have to hit the back wall
if the BR casino is this bad, it's really their fault for allowing such a dumb scheme

kidman232 · Aug 19, 2017

Never understood why any real casino wouldnt have a box

Mr_Mark · Aug 19, 2017

why would the casino pay them? was one of the guys involved a worker?

michael777 · Aug 19, 2017

Betallsports said:
not really a good video, but you get the idea

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/duFEkIVP4KU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

thanks,never knew that! :toast:

Akillies · Aug 19, 2017

itss legal if you hit the back wall
when i do it, i lean over past the sick man making the throw as short as possible and try to have the dice slide slowly against the back wall

WhiteyBulger · Aug 19, 2017

Agree that this may work on a roll or two but how it can go on to win 56k and then they get paid is amazing

DesertDevil · Aug 20, 2017

Betallsports said:
When throwing the dice, they want you to hit the Wall at every throw.
On the back wall there is a Rubber fill with spike like shapes, this is to make the dice hit off it so you have no control at all.

In this case they were Sliding the Dice across the table.
So let's say the number you need to hit is a 6, you set up the dice to face up on a 6, and slide the dice across the table, thus hitting your number.

It's one of the oldest scams on a dice table.

I'll find a video and post it

Illegal? Just sounds like the guys working the table were idiots. Should have been shut down before they even walked away.

Or even after they tossed the dice a couple of times.

dnf0027 · Aug 20, 2017

pit boss should be fired

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