How do you perceive Dallas in 2017

ROCCO V · Sep 1, 2017

Simple as that... look into your crystal ball with Dallas and what do you see coming?

Is this a Super Bowl contender? I believe 21 will be on the field all year due to legal formality. I think 4 has the ability to be one of the best QB in the league no matter his RB anyways. Defense will bleed points but has some talent and players like Charlton and Smith should gain value as the season progresses.

I am interested in them but want to know how to bet them. What do you see with Dallas?

Bruins4Life · Sep 1, 2017

Bleeding points is all I can see. I am an avid Cowboys fan, so I'm preparing to be disappointed. How are they going to stop anyone?

ROCCO V · Sep 1, 2017

Bruins4Life said:
Bleeding points is all I can see. I am an avid Cowboys fan, so I'm preparing to be disappointed. How are they going to stop anyone?

I ask this because I didn't watch their defense close last year; but how did they stop people when needed last year; or was it a product of the perfect storm and not facing any elite schedule types? I did watch them beat pittsburgh... the question to ask and I know their schedule is tougher, is did the defense lose, improve, or stay the same ability

JayKoz · Sep 2, 2017

I'm a Cowboys fan - The D has improved from a talent standpoint, that much can't really be denied. Yes, they lost some veteran secondary players (Carr, Claiborne, Church), but those guys weren't the reason as to why Dallas ranked top 5 in points allowed last year.

They have two new rookies at CB (Awuzie from Colorado and Lewis from Michigan) who will probably have some growing pains but will only get better as the season goes on - they also signed Nolan Carroll at CB for some veteran help, and by all reports, he has had a very good camp. They obviously still have Orlando Scandrick and Anthony Brown, who had a great rookie year last season after the injuries to Claiborne. Charlton is the same thing as the other rookies, and obviously they're missing a few guys on that D due to suspensions as well.

The biggest advantage they have on defense is the fact that they have a ball control offense that has a QB who can move the chains along with Zeke and 3 All-Pro's on that OL. They were good against both the run and pass last year, Sean Lee is one of the best MLB's in the game, they just weren't elite in any one category. Now you're adding the young talent, which includes Jaylon Smith, and I think the D will be improved. I also believe Zeke will be playing, as I put in a wager a couple weeks ago on 5Dimes that "Yes, he will play in 1 of the first 6 games" at -170 odds. No brainer to me.

Dallas has a tough schedule this year, but we always look at these kinds of things and then are surprised at the end of the year. Some of the teams that we envision being contenders end up being clunkers. With that said, they're in a tough division as always, that will most likely beat up on each other.

I'm very much a realist when it comes to the Cowboys, so I'm not one to just sugar coat things and always look positively, but they have made some very good moves this offseason IMO. Both betting on and against Dallas is one of my strengths in the NFL, I don't mind betting against my team if I see an edge. In the last 2 years, I'm a combined 11-3 (+15.49 units) betting on Dallas games.

Were you contemplating a win total bet or what were you looking at exactly?

Bruins4Life · Sep 2, 2017

I have never bet on Dallas, but I have bet against them when I see they are over matched.

Most season win totals are off the board for now.

JayKoz · Sep 2, 2017

5 dimes still has a line up.

Dallas over 9.5 wins (+140)
Dallas under 9.5 wins (-160)

TomandJerry · Sep 2, 2017

JayKoz said:
5 dimes still has a line up.

Dallas over 9.5 wins (+140)
Dallas under 9.5 wins (-160)

I take UNDER ...from Texas with love.

Twisted · Sep 2, 2017

All I know is they will look very bad week one.

QUEENOFHEARTS · Sep 2, 2017

Twisted said:
All I know is they will look very bad week one.

You got that right. Dallas Defense will get punished by Eli and that is going to suck very bad.
Ill take the points and the ML.

QUEENOFHEARTS · Sep 2, 2017

JayKoz said:
I'm a Cowboys fan - The D has improved from a talent standpoint, that much can't really be denied. Yes, they lost some veteran secondary players (Carr, Claiborne, Church), but those guys weren't the reason as to why Dallas ranked top 5 in points allowed last year.

They have two new rookies at CB (Awuzie from Colorado and Lewis from Michigan) who will probably have some growing pains but will only get better as the season goes on - they also signed Nolan Carroll at CB for some veteran help, and by all reports, he has had a very good camp. They obviously still have Orlando Scandrick and Anthony Brown, who had a great rookie year last season after the injuries to Claiborne. Charlton is the same thing as the other rookies, and obviously they're missing a few guys on that D due to suspensions as well.

The biggest advantage they have on defense is the fact that they have a ball control offense that has a QB who can move the chains along with Zeke and 3 All-Pro's on that OL. They were good against both the run and pass last year, Sean Lee is one of the best MLB's in the game, they just weren't elite in any one category. Now you're adding the young talent, which includes Jaylon Smith, and I think the D will be improved. I also believe Zeke will be playing, as I put in a wager a couple weeks ago on 5Dimes that "Yes, he will play in 1 of the first 6 games" at -170 odds. No brainer to me.

Dallas has a tough schedule this year, but we always look at these kinds of things and then are surprised at the end of the year. Some of the teams that we envision being contenders end up being clunkers. With that said, they're in a tough division as always, that will most likely beat up on each other.

I'm very much a realist when it comes to the Cowboys, so I'm not one to just sugar coat things and always look positively, but they have made some very good moves this offseason IMO. Both betting on and against Dallas is one of my strengths in the NFL, I don't mind betting against my team if I see an edge. In the last 2 years, I'm a combined 11-3 (+15.49 units) betting on Dallas games.

Were you contemplating a win total bet or what were you looking at exactly?

Excellent point of view. 11-3 on Dallas games. Very nice. I wonder how many of those were on Dallas and how many were divisional games.

I hope you will share when you are on a Dallas game this season. I have a pretty good feeling you took the Giants and the points week#1. I hope you improve to 12-3.

ROCCO V · Sep 3, 2017

JayKoz said:
I'm a Cowboys fan - The D has improved from a talent standpoint, that much can't really be denied. Yes, they lost some veteran secondary players (Carr, Claiborne, Church), but those guys weren't the reason as to why Dallas ranked top 5 in points allowed last year.

They have two new rookies at CB (Awuzie from Colorado and Lewis from Michigan) who will probably have some growing pains but will only get better as the season goes on - they also signed Nolan Carroll at CB for some veteran help, and by all reports, he has had a very good camp. They obviously still have Orlando Scandrick and Anthony Brown, who had a great rookie year last season after the injuries to Claiborne. Charlton is the same thing as the other rookies, and obviously they're missing a few guys on that D due to suspensions as well.

The biggest advantage they have on defense is the fact that they have a ball control offense that has a QB who can move the chains along with Zeke and 3 All-Pro's on that OL. They were good against both the run and pass last year, Sean Lee is one of the best MLB's in the game, they just weren't elite in any one category. Now you're adding the young talent, which includes Jaylon Smith, and I think the D will be improved. I also believe Zeke will be playing, as I put in a wager a couple weeks ago on 5Dimes that "Yes, he will play in 1 of the first 6 games" at -170 odds. No brainer to me.

Dallas has a tough schedule this year, but we always look at these kinds of things and then are surprised at the end of the year. Some of the teams that we envision being contenders end up being clunkers. With that said, they're in a tough division as always, that will most likely beat up on each other.

I'm very much a realist when it comes to the Cowboys, so I'm not one to just sugar coat things and always look positively, but they have made some very good moves this offseason IMO. Both betting on and against Dallas is one of my strengths in the NFL, I don't mind betting against my team if I see an edge. In the last 2 years, I'm a combined 11-3 (+15.49 units) betting on Dallas games.

Were you contemplating a win total bet or what were you looking at exactly?

Opening at 9.5 win total made them curious to me, feel like its suspect low. I also have watched them every week since i was a young man and find them particularly interesting and a great watch right now. I like prescott. I imagine this will lead to me wagering on them often and like you; I want to know anything I'm missing here. I just think they could range 6-10 to 12-4 again and really don't know what to do with them. I am leaning towards taking them week 1 and letting the chips fall as they may. I think they also might lose some games they should roll and surprise in others. Overall I am a fan of them and would like to see them make a deep run, but quite confused as to how to bet them. Like you I have gone against them in the past and playoffs last year was a no brainer (Packers and points, and the Over).

MR.HARRYtheHAT · Sep 4, 2017

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Setting aside the bizarre (and probably pretty random) fact that no NFC East team has repeated as division champions since the 2003-04 Eagles, there are reasons to worry about the Cowboys. They might have running back depth, but none of their current options offer Elliott's explosive playmaking ability. They will miss him. And even before Elliott's suspension came down, Dallas was already dealing with a rash of suspensions on its already questionable defensive side of the ball. The Cowboys lost three-fourths of their secondary in free agency and have spent the offseason putting that back together. The Giants beat them twice last season and finished only two games behind them. The gap between the teams wasn't that wide.

WBTB · Sep 4, 2017

I don't see Dallas winning more than 9 and more likely 8

JayKoz · Sep 4, 2017

QUEEN OF HEARTS said:
Excellent point of view. 11-3 on Dallas games. Very nice. I wonder how many of those were on Dallas and how many were divisional games.

I hope you will share when you are on a Dallas game this season. I have a pretty good feeling you took the Giants and the points week#1. I hope you improve to 12-3.

Undecided at this point, to be honest. I lean taking the points, just because I think it'll be a close game. Anything over a FG is enticing. Eli has our number in the new stadium... but these two teams beat on each other off and on consistently. With a sweep last year, you know Dallas has been waiting for this game.. would you be that surprised to see Dallas win by a FG?

And Harry, in response to your post above.. it's sort of hard to miss someone when I believe they're going to play the entire year.

Seriously... I think Zeke plays Week 1. Why hasn't that line budged?

What Goodell, Friel and the NFL are trying to do to Zeke and the Cowboys is utter BS.

JayKoz · Sep 4, 2017

Queen, 8 on Dallas, 6 against - 4 total divisional games. 7-1 betting on Dallas, 4-2 betting against them. 4-0 in the divisional picks.

The NFC East is a bit of a crazy division, every single year.. always have to be careful. Nothing you don't already know, though!

I know they're not documented but since I've been keeping a close track, just shows that sometimes knowing your own team can make a pretty big difference. Just have to be real with yourself, you can see over a two year period that over half my units won are from betting on Dallas games.

2015-16: 34-22-2 (+16.74)
2016-17: 57-44-1 (+11.98)
Dallas Games both years: 11-3 (+15.49)

QUEENOFHEARTS · Sep 4, 2017

JayKoz said:
Queen, 8 on Dallas, 6 against - 4 total divisional games. 7-1 betting on Dallas, 4-2 betting against them. 4-0 in the divisional picks.

The NFC East is a bit of a crazy division, every single year.. always have to be careful. Nothing you don't already know, though!

I know they're not documented but since I've been keeping a close track, just shows that sometimes knowing your own team can make a pretty big difference. Just have to be real with yourself, you can see over a two year period that over half my units won are from betting on Dallas games.

2015-16: 34-22-2 (+16.74)
2016-17: 57-44-1 (+11.98)
Dallas Games both years: 11-3 (+15.49)

"Especially" considering its the Dallas Cowboys which always have an ultra razor sharp inflated line, you have an impressive resume.

s2kris · Sep 4, 2017

I like the under 9.5 myself. I am not sold on their defense and they have Giants, Broncos, Cardinals, and Packers in the first 5 weeks. We'll definitely learn a lot about them going into their bye week (week 6)

bigwang · Sep 5, 2017

Their offense is going to be very good but the d still looks bad on paper. If it is anything above average though I would put a little on that ov 9.5+140.

Truedrinker · Sep 5, 2017

They need a new coach

Truedrinker · Sep 5, 2017

There offensive line is really good. U win in the trenches

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