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    End of the dream: Trump 'WILL end Obama's DACA immigration program', kicking 800,000 'dreamers' out despite pleas from both parties to keep it

    President Donald Trump (pictured top on Saturday after meeting with Hurricane Harvey victims) has decided to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, sources have confirmed. Two sources close to the president told Politico on Sunday that he made his decision after an afternoon meeting with his aides. DACA is an Obama-era initiative that grants work permits to more than 800,000 undocumented immigrants who were brought to the country by family members as children. There will reportedly be a six month delay before the repeal is enforced. The official announcement regarding the decision is expected to come Tuesday. Pictured bottom hundreds of people march in Los Angeles in support of the program.
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    End of the dream: Trump 'WILL end Obama's DACA immigration program', kicking out 800,000 'dreamers' despite pleas from both parties not do so

    • Trump has decided to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program
    • Two sources close to the president said he made the decision Sunday after a meeting with his aides
    • The official announcement about the decision is expected to come Tuesday
    • Many members of the President's party have said he should not end DACA



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    President Donald Trump has decided to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, sources have confirmed.
    Two sources close to the president told Politico on Sunday that he made his decision after an afternoon meeting with his aides.
    DACA is an Obama-era initiative that grants work permits to more than 800,000 undocumented immigrants who were brought to the country by family members as children.
    Ending it is likely to spark fury towards the White House on either side of the aisle, and Trump and his aides worked through the afternoon to decide how to best announce the controversial decision to avoid this, sources explained.
    The official announcement regarding the decision is expected to come Tuesday.

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    President Donald Trump has decided to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, sources have confirmed. He is pictured on Saturday after meeting people impacted by Hurricane Harvey
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    DACA is an Obama-era initiative that grants work permits to more than 800,000 undocumented immigrants who were brought to the country by family members as children. Above people gather in support of the program in Los Angeles on Friday

    The White House has been making up its mind on whether or not to get rid of the program since the inauguration.
    Trump had railed against the Obama program during the presidential campaign, slamming it as an illegal 'amnesty' that he would immediately end.
    Though ending DACA was one of his campaign promises, there were moments it looked like he would not address the program because of its popularity.
    On Friday he suggested he might not end the program, saying: 'We love the Dreamers. We love everybody.'
    Multiple members of Trump's party warned him not to scrap it.

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    Two sources close to the president told Politico on Sunday that the president had made his decision after an afternoon meeting with his aides. The official announcement regarding the decision is expected to come Tuesday. The President and First Lady are pictured after attending church on Sunday morning

    In fact, some congressional GOP lawmakers spent Inauguration Day urgently trying to reach senior White House officials about the matter after hearing rumors that Trump could roll back the deportation protections as one of his first moves.
    During a radio interview Friday House Speaker Paul Ryan said he does not think Trump should end DACA, and that Congress should step in to keep him from doing so.
    'These are kids who know no other country, who are brought here by their parents and don't know another home. And so I really do believe that there needs to be a legislative solution,' Ryan told Wisconsin radio station WCLO.
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    Neither the White House or Ryan responded to Politico's request for comment.
    Two sources told Politico that Attorney General Jeff Sessions played a large role in writing the new immigration law and helped to persuade Trump to terminate the program.
    In an attempt to assuage anyone upset by the decision, Trump will delay the enforcement of the new immigration decision and deportation of immigrant children by six months.
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    In an attempt to assuage anyone upset by the decision, Trump will delay the enforcement of the new immigration decision and deportation of immigrant children by six months. Pictured someone holds a sign in Columbus Square during a demonstration in support of DACA on Wednesday


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    Though Trump's announcement on Tuesday will anger millions of Americans, it will also shore up his supporters, who rallied behind his campaign message of strengthening the border. Pictured activists hold a sign in New York during a rally to support DACA on Wednesday

    That window, a White House official explained, would give Congress some time to act.
    However, another senior White House aide said that John Kelley, Trump's chief of staff who has worked closely with the president on the decision, 'thinks Congress should've gotten its act together a lot longer ago.'
    Though Trump's announcement on Tuesday will anger millions of Americans, it will also shore up his supporters, who rallied behind his campaign message of strengthening the border.
    On Friday afternoon the White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said: 'I think that this isn't a decision that the president takes lightly and he's taking time and diligent effort to make sure that he goes through every bit of the process.
    'I think the decision itself is weighing on him, certainly.'
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    I have as much compassion for these people as their parents had for our immigration laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeets View Post
    I have as much compassion for these people as their parents had for our immigration laws.
    Really? Wasn't the kids fault. Feel badly for them. Thus will be one nail in the coffin for Trump being a 1 termer if he makes it that long
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeets View Post
    I have as much compassion for these people as their parents had for our immigration laws.
    Good answer....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedingPurple View Post
    Really? Wasn't the kids fault. Feel badly for them. Thus will be one nail in the coffin for Trump being a 1 termer if he makes it that long

    This is the right call.

    The Stuttering Clusterfuck invented a law on his own, and Trump just undid it.

    Good. How's that whole "pen and phone" thing taste now, dims? The POTUS doesn't create laws, that's the job of Congress. If they want to uphold this dreamer crap, they've now got six months to do it.

    Btw, can someone tell me where else the whole "we just can't break up the family" argument is ever used as a defense for a crime? "Well, yes, your honor...my client did in fact rob the bank in question at gunpoint. But we can't send him to jail because that would break him apart from his children."
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    But he's not really kicking out anybody, he's just eliminating an executive order

    He wants a permanent solution, he's telling congress to come up with legislation and stop kicking the can down the road

    We need a permanent solution, we need a path to citizenship or legalization, but I'm opposed to any of that happening until the borders are secured



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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedingPurple View Post
    Really? Wasn't the kids fault. Feel badly for them. Thus will be one nail in the coffin for Trump being a 1 termer if he makes it that long
    SO WE CANT PUNISH PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE KIDS, EVEN THO THEY KNOWINGLY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BREAK THE LAWS.

    btw: DONT BE MAD AT PEOPLE WHO ENFORCE THE LAWS... BE MAD AT THE PARENTS WHO PUT THEM IN THIS POSITION BY PURPOSELY BREAKING THE LAWS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedingPurple View Post
    Really? Wasn't the kids fault. Feel badly for them. Thus will be one nail in the coffin for Trump being a 1 termer if he makes it that long
    Your handle should be BleedlingPurpleHeart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLTrends View Post
    SO WE CANT PUNISH PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE KIDS, EVEN THO THEY KNOWINGLY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BREAK THE LAWS.

    btw: DONT BE MAD AT PEOPLE WHO ENFORCE THE LAWS... BE MAD AT THE PARENTS WHO PUT THEM IN THIS POSITION BY PURPOSELY BREAKING THE LAWS.
    People shouldn't be punished because of what their parent's did. If you murder someone the law doesn't come to place your kids in jail. Now if he undid this law not to deport these people to a foreign place for them but to implement a way for these people to become legal then that's great
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave007inVegas View Post
    Your handle should be BleedlingPurpleHeart.
    I'll take it
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeets View Post
    I have as much compassion for these people as their parents had for our immigration laws.
    Our?
    donnie trump is just another Nixon.....well that is if Nixon had 8th grade literacy and was 100 lbs overweight
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    Will be more pertinent discussion in six months when the repeal actually kicks in.

    Possible at that point or before that President Pence just prudently dumps the whole notion
    donnie trump is just another Nixon.....well that is if Nixon had 8th grade literacy and was 100 lbs overweight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave007inVegas View Post
    Your handle should be BleedlingPurpleHeart.
    BleedingPurpleHeart using other people's money.

    Aren't liberals such genuine wonderful compassionate people!

    Send them to BP's home - problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriff Joe View Post
    BleedingPurpleHeart using other people's money.

    Aren't liberals such genuine wonderful compassionate people!

    Send them to BP's home - problem solved.
    Oh come on every fucking American who has children is spending other people's money. Maybe they should pass a bill about that? Why should I pay more in taxes because you have children? Fuck that. So yeah I get screwed everyday by almost every American here so I'm not worried about these 800,000 people
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedingPurple View Post
    People shouldn't be punished because of what their parent's did. If you murder someone the law doesn't come to place your kids in jail. Now if he undid this law not to deport these people to a foreign place for them but to implement a way for these people to become legal then that's great

    And I referenced this exact point above.

    If I decided to murder someone, should I be exempt from going to jail because it would tear me apart from my kids?
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    Good job by Mr Trump long overdue, damn what a crap Obama started, and this was not legal by obama to start with
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    why in the hell do us The United States have to be a damn melting pot for the entire world
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDeuce View Post
    And I referenced this exact point above.

    If I decided to murder someone, should I be exempt from going to jail because it would tear me apart from my kids?
    im not talking about the initial perps
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaKid View Post
    why in the hell do us The United States have to be a damn melting pot for the entire world
    Huh? Thats the way the country was founded
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    This should have ended a long time ago
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