I'm am totally shocked GSP is a 130 favorite. I think Bisping smokes him and i think this is as close to a lock as it gets. GSp lay and prays people. He won't be able to take down and control a guy with good takedowns defense who even when he is taken down isn't held down, He;s a bigger guy......and it will end up being a striking battle which Bisping is significantly better. All GSP has is a jab. The ONLY way GSP wins is a surprise head kick. Bisping is suspect to the big strike(overhand by Hendo...Head kick by Belfort and Rockgold) ...but GSP just doesn't really pull that stuff out. GSP is out of his weight class and off a layoff...he's out of his league
I thought the same. I highly doubt he'll be knocking him out or choking him out. His paths to victory are very small. A GSP win would have to be a decision.
My UFC picks are terrible so I definitely could be wrong. However, looking at the long-term what could be the UFC's or the moneychangers' angle? Well, a victory by GSP could set up the biggest fight in UFC history between GSP and McGregor. Or GSP could then fight for the title at 170 and McGregor could face the winner.
The bigger a company or institution grows, the more it edges towards massive corruption and acts contrary to it's founding principles. I think eventually the UFC will move towards the corruption levels of boxing, which has to be the biggest joke on the planet. Do you remember the Canelo/GGG decision? Thus for Bisping's sake, he better knock GSP the fuck out and hope to high hell it doesn't come down to the judges.
My UFC picks are terrible so I definitely could be wrong. However, looking at the long-term what could be the UFC's or the moneychangers' angle? Well, a victory by GSP could set up the biggest fight in UFC history between GSP and McGregor. Or GSP could then fight for the title at 170 and McGregor could face the winner.
The bigger a company or institution grows, the more it edges towards massive corruption and acts contrary to it's founding principles. I think eventually the UFC will move towards the corruption levels of boxing, which has to be the biggest joke on the planet. Do you remember the Canelo/GGG decision? Thus for Bisping's sake, he better knock GSP the fuck out and hope to high hell it doesn't come down to the judges.
line dropping a little
GSP -120, Bisping +100
Man, am I still crazy to think Bisping will crush him? Bisping walks around at 220 lbs. GSP is naturally 165 to 170. There is a 50 lb natural body weight difference. And Bisping is 4 to 5 inches taller.
I thought Kennedy was going to whoop Gastelum due to size and the divisional difference, which can be huge. But where I was wrong is that Gastelum is a tremendous fist artist. He can pop people's skulls and he did a number on Kennedy and Vitor. GSP doesn't have that... unless he somehow gets lucky with a kick.
When Gastelum took on Weidman it was the huge size difference that determined the outcome, IMO. With this GSP fight... man, Bisping is going to be a giant in there.
GSP -120, Bisping +100
Man, am I still crazy to think Bisping will crush him? Bisping walks around at 220 lbs. GSP is naturally 165 to 170. There is a 50 lb natural body weight difference. And Bisping is 4 to 5 inches taller.
I thought Kennedy was going to whoop Gastelum due to size and the divisional difference, which can be huge. But where I was wrong is that Gastelum is a tremendous fist artist. He can pop people's skulls and he did a number on Kennedy and Vitor. GSP doesn't have that... unless he somehow gets lucky with a kick.
When Gastelum took on Weidman it was the huge size difference that determined the outcome, IMO. With this GSP fight... man, Bisping is going to be a giant in there.
this sat
UFC Fight Night 119 - Middleweight 5 rounds - Ibirapuera Gymnasium - Sao Paulo, Brazil - FS1
great action! and can't believe Colby is -170. Is Maia hurt? jesus that's an expensive price on Colby
UFC Fight Night 119 - Middleweight 5 rounds - Ibirapuera Gymnasium - Sao Paulo, Brazil - FS1
| Sat 10/28 | 1001 Lyoto Machida | +130 | o2½ +120 | ||||
| 11:30PM | 1002 Derek Brunson | -170 | u2½ -160 | ||||
| UFC Fight Night 119 - Welterweight 3 rounds - Ibirapuera Gymnasium - Sao Paulo, Brazil - FS1 | |||||||
| Sat 10/28 | 1101 Colby Covington | -170 | o2½ -230 | ||||
| 11:00PM | 1102 Demian Maia | +130 | u2½ +170 |
great action! and can't believe Colby is -170. Is Maia hurt? jesus that's an expensive price on Colby
Yeah....both live dogs. Machida isn't the same as he used to be. I could see that fight going either way I'll take a chnce with the underdog. Maia even more so. I think the line is because Colby can wrestle and is aggressive simialrly to Woodley. But.....Maia only loses to the best of the best. Give me Maia. If I lose with those two bets I can handle it. But....those are smaller bets than my two big ones on Bisping and Garbrandt. Like Bisping even a little more
You may be correct with the outcome,and you're correct that The Count will be the bigger man,however,GSP isn't a natural 165-170,nor is there a 50 lb weight difference,or 5 inch height for the matter either. GSP was right at 190 for natural weight when he fought 170,and he now walks around at 200,which is what he will weigh the night of the fight. He will be cutting 10-15 to make the 185 lbs.,and is the stronger fighter IMO. I won't be touching this fight wager wise,but looking forward to seeing it...
I don't know, man, maybe I'm wrong.. but he's a real natural slender build. Maybe 175 max as natural build. I just can't believe he's naturally more. But even at 175... that's 45 pounds of natural difference.
Anybody else have their opinion change a little on Masvidal after the result of the recent Cowboy fight? I thought Masvidal blitzed Cowboy due to his skills, but Cowboy got blitzed three times in a row now... and that Masvidal win doesn't look so impressive.
Really looking forward to that Maia fight. Some of these fights look great!
Didn't change my opinion. Wonderboy still has to deal with Masvidals striking and wrestling. Wonderboy is much like Machida if he doesnt cut the angle perfectly......he gets smashed if the opponent is aggressive because he never moves his head off the center line. No head movement Watch the Woodley fight where when he was aggressive and came forward Wonderboy got caught because he tries to angle everything withput head movement and gets caught. It will be hard for him to do so worrying about both Masvidals striking and takedowns. You do have to worry if Masvidal isn't aggressive enough though. Many times in the past he wasn't and ended in a decision situation and lost
GSP isn't 175,never has been,never will. The info I gave is accurate. GSP jumped on a scale in front of a group of us at TriStar 10 years ago and was 190. He doesn't look "slim",he is however,somewhat short at 5ft10in.
Wonderboy should pick apart Masvidal,Covington wrestlefucks Maia (and maybe even KO's him,yea I said it)
Wonderboy should pick apart Masvidal,Covington wrestlefucks Maia (and maybe even KO's him,yea I said it)
The Woodley fights prepared Wonderboy for any and all takedowns,no worries on Masvidal there. Wonderboy's wrestling is now good enough to depend on,somewhat...having a full-time wrestling coach on board(finally),and training with Weidman every few months now,has really paid off. What Masvidal needs to do is bring that street style to this fight and try to make things dirty,get in Wonderboy's face,clinch,Thai,dirty box,because he will get picked apart from outside,and do as you stated,slow down and not push the pace,and lose...
Guy has been lifting weights. Not a chance in hell he's naturally 190. He looks bloated and overweright. Bisping would probably be 235 lbs if he tried to get bloated with muscle like GSP.
For GSP small frame, 180 lbs is not natural. There's probably video of him out there stating his natural weight. If his natural weight was 180, he wouldn't have to blimp up for a 185 fight... and he could just go natural like Gastelum does at 185. Gastelum has to cut, cut, cut and cut to make 170. At 185 he can eat all his extra cheeseburgers.
GSP was walking around at 185 when he took the Bisping fight (once again,he's been 185+ for 15 years+ now). He chose to bulk to close to 200 because as stated,The Count is the larger man,and GSP wants to weight close to 200 when entering the Octagon. It's common sense,and I've seen it with my own eyes,but whatever,carry on,the fight will be here soon enough...
You can't convince me that a small frame man is bigger than he actually is. What do you think Conor's natural weight is?
Conor naturally is 165 maybe? GSP is 175 naturally... max. You seem to think GSP is naturally a college football sized running back.
Conor and GSP are naturally comparable in size. Bisping would dwarf Conor.
What's he at in this video? 195? 200 max? He's about 20 lbs above his natural body weight, IMO.
Conor naturally is 165 maybe? GSP is 175 naturally... max. You seem to think GSP is naturally a college football sized running back.
Conor and GSP are naturally comparable in size. Bisping would dwarf Conor.
What's he at in this video? 195? 200 max? He's about 20 lbs above his natural body weight, IMO.
I don't seem to think anything. I've seen him personally weigh in at 189 when he was fighting 170. He walked around in the 185 range when he fought 170. That's common knowledge. Believe what you want. You now have DoucheBacks,I mean Greenbacks on your side,so you should be golden...lol
It is true that GSp has stated he walked around I think 190 before he retired. But, he has said he could fight at 155....170 and 185. He IS naturally a smaller guy than Bisping regardless. But, not 50 pounds. I'm guessing Bisping will either have a 10-15 pound advantage when they fight. If not GSP will have too much fat on him and it won't be beneficial. So....all that matters is he will be a smaller guy in every way......and the way he fights reelly won't work on Bisping in my opinion. But, that is why they fight
Nice to see the line dropping. I got Bisping a few months ago when he was +135, we talked about the fight here already since it's almost a year in the making at this point.
Logically he should win. He stayed on his feet against a prime roided up Chael, hard to see GSP controlling him for 5 rounds and the fight taking place on the ground rather than standing up. I'm not big into handicapping stuff like this but it is possible Bisping is mentally checked out and just cashing in on this fight. And if it comes down to a close decision, not sure I like his chances to get 1 over GSP.
But I really don't see GSP just snapping the jab on him for 5 rds, Bisping should win the standup with his boxing and just overall physical advantages.
Logically he should win. He stayed on his feet against a prime roided up Chael, hard to see GSP controlling him for 5 rounds and the fight taking place on the ground rather than standing up. I'm not big into handicapping stuff like this but it is possible Bisping is mentally checked out and just cashing in on this fight. And if it comes down to a close decision, not sure I like his chances to get 1 over GSP.
But I really don't see GSP just snapping the jab on him for 5 rds, Bisping should win the standup with his boxing and just overall physical advantages.
Let me know if this a bad theory.
The biggest superfight to make in the UFC would be McGregor vs. GSP. "If" GSP wins, then McG faces GSP in a media-hype triple-title champion bout and the biggest grossing UFC matchup of all time?
How does that happen? They only have to make it to the judges and then corruption takes over, granted that GSP didn't actually win on points.
Just a theory. I don't think the UFC is at the point of boxing yet, not even close, but the GGG fight was a classic example of rigging in the dirtiest sport of all time -- boxing.
The biggest superfight to make in the UFC would be McGregor vs. GSP. "If" GSP wins, then McG faces GSP in a media-hype triple-title champion bout and the biggest grossing UFC matchup of all time?
How does that happen? They only have to make it to the judges and then corruption takes over, granted that GSP didn't actually win on points.
Just a theory. I don't think the UFC is at the point of boxing yet, not even close, but the GGG fight was a classic example of rigging in the dirtiest sport of all time -- boxing.
