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[h=1]John Kelly calls special press conference to defend Trump's call to Green Beret widow and slam 'selfish' congresswoman for listening in to 'sacred' conversation as he shames both sides with gut-wrenching account of what happens when a soldier dies[/h]
  • Rep. Frederica Wilson says she listened in on President Trump's call to Sgt. La David T. Johnson's widow, when they conversed on Tuesday
  • She has accused the president of making insensitive remarks on the call
  • Trump claimed, in response, that Barack Obama and other presidents 'didn't make calls' to Gold Star families
  • When that was disproven, he pointed to John Kelly, a retired general who serves as his chief of staff, and claimed that Obama didn't call him
  • Kelly's son died in Afghanistan in 2010; he confirmed Thursday that Obama didn't call but said he was not offended
  • Also said he counseled Trump not to call the families of the fallen, even though it's nice when presidents do
  • Of the chief of staff's defense of Trump, Wilson said, 'John Kelly's trying to keep his job'
 

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White House Chief of Staff John Kelly said Thursday that he was stunned to learn that Congresswoman Frederica Wilson listened in on the president's call to a fallen soldier's wife.
A retired general who lost his own son in Afghanistan in 2010, Kelly said the call to Sgt. La David T. Johnson's wife should have been 'sacred' and that Wilson should not have repeated President Trump's words to the Green Beret's widow.
'It stuns me that a Member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me. I though at least that was sacred,' he said.
In his remarks, Kelly called Wilson a 'selfish Member of Congress.'
Wilson shot back telling a reporter for Politico, 'John Kelly's trying to keep his job.
 

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Kelly said that President Trump's call to Sgt. La David T. Johnson's wife should have been 'sacred' and that Wilson (left) should not have repeated it
 

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A spokesperson for Wilson meanwhile told ABC News that the dispute 'shouldn’t be about her.''
'It’s about remembering and honoring this fallen hero and fighting for his family,' the spokesperson said.
Wilson has previously explained that she was in the car with Johnson's family when the call from President Trump came in, and that is how she knows exactly what he said.
Kelly found himself at the center of the controversy after Trump suggested during a radio interview that that Barack Obama didn't call the retired general when his son Robert died.
'As far as other presidents, I don't know, you could ask Gen. Kelly, did he get a call from Obama? I don't know what Obama's policy was,' Trump told Fox's Brian Kilmeade on his radio show.
At a White House news conference on Thursday, Kelly said the claim was true – but he wasn't offended.
'I can tell you that President Obama, who was my commander-in-chief when I was on active duty, did not call my family, that was not a criticism, that was just to simply say that I don't believe President Obama called. That's not a negative thing,' he said.
In fact, Kelly says he counseled Trump not to call Gold Star families.
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PICTURED: Sgt. La David T. Johnson, who was killed in an Oct. 4 ambush in Niger

'When I took this job and talked to President Trump about how to do it, my first recommendation was he not do it,' he said. 'Because it's not the phone call that parents, family members are looking forward to. It's nice to do them in my opinion, in any event.'
The controversy over calls to families of the fallen began when Trump told reporters on Monday during an impromptu news conference that most presidents 'didn't make calls' as he came under scrutiny for waiting so long to comment on four U.S. soldiers' deaths in an Oct. 4 ambush in Niger.
'I like to call when it's appropriate, when I think I'm able to do it. They have made the ultimate sacrifice, so generally I would say that I like to call,' he said.
Trump said he'd written the families and would be making calls soon. When he did, Wilson, a Democrat who represents Florida, claimed that Trump dismissively told Johnson's widow Myeshia that Johnson 'knew what he signed up for' by enlisting, adding that 'when it happens it hurts anyway.'
The soldier's mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told the Associated Press on Wednesday that Wilson's representation of Trump's words were accurate.
'Yes the statement is true,' she said. 'I was in the car and I heard the full conversation. Not only did he disrespect my son,' she said, 'but Trump also disrespected the dead soldier's father and his widow.'
Trump tweeted Wednesday morning that Wilson 'totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof).'
White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said later in the day that there were no recordings of the call, 'but there were several people in the room from the administration who were on the call, including Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly.'
She blasted the media as a 'disgrace' for turning Trump's condolences into a scandal, and hammered Wilson for how 'she's politicized this issue.'
'I think to try to create something from that, that the congresswoman is doing, is frankly appalling and disgusting,' Huckabee Sanders said.
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Myeshia Johnson, who is expecting the couple's third baby in January, later sobbed as she leaned over her husband's coffin
 

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Trump is said to have told Mrs. Johnson that her 25-year-old husband 'knew what he signed up for... but when it happens it hurts anyway'
 

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Trump denied making the insensitive remark, tweeting on Wednesday that the congresswoman 'totally fabricated' it
 

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Trump had insisted to reporters that morning that he 'didn't say what that congresswoman said, didn't say it at all.
'She knows it, and she now is not saying it,' Trump claimed, with his arms crossed. 'I did not say what she said, and I'd like her to make the statement again because I did not say what she said.'
Asked what the 'proof' was that he tweeted about, he said: 'Let her make her statement again and then you'll find out. Okay. Let her make her statement again and then you'll find out.'
Wilson has said she was sitting beside the grieving widow Myeshia when she took the call, while they were on their way to Miami International Airport where David Johnson's remains were arriving on a commercial flight.
On MSNBC, she said that the call 'was horrible. It was insensitive. It was absolutely crazy. Unnecessary. I was livid!'
And the widow, she recalled, 'was in tears. And she said, "He didn't even remember his name!"'
Heartbreaking footage later showed Johnson, who is expecting the couple's third baby in January, sobbing as she leaned over her husband's flag-draped coffin.
The couple's six-year-old daughter stood by the coffin with her mother, while their two-year-old son waited in the arms of a relative standing nearby.
 

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Kelly gave a play-by-play from the White House podium of what happens when a service member is killed in action and how grieving family members are informed
 

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Family of service: John Kelly spoke about losing his younger son Robert (left), and the fifth tour of active duty by his surviving son, Marine Major John Kelly Jr, who he said was currently deployed in Iraq

Trump was heavily criticized for his comments by both Gold Star families and ex-staffers of former presidents.
Alyssa Mastromonaco, who served as a deputy chief of staff under Obama, was among those to immediately lash out at Trump.
'That's a f***ing lie,' she tweeted. 'To say President Obama (or past presidents) didn't call the family members of soldiers KIA - he's a deranged animal.'
Ben Rhodes, Obama's foreign policy advisor, said: 'This is an outrageous and disrespectful lie even by Trump standards.'
'The point the President was making is that there’s a different process. Sometimes they call. Sometimes they write letters. Sometimes they engage directly. The comments were certainly, I think, taken very far out of context by the media. And if there’s any frustration, I think that's where it should be focused,' Huckabee Sanders said at her Wednesday briefing.
Asked about Kelly later, she said, 'I think that General Kelly is disgusted by the way that this has been politicized and that the focus has become on the process and not the fact that American lives were lost. I think he's disgusted and frustrated by that. If he has any anger, it's towards that.'
Kelly's appearance at the podium on Thursday was a surprise one. The daily press briefing is typically handled Huckabee Sanders, the White House spokeswoman.
After brief, opening remarks on Thursday, Huckabee Sanders invited Kelly to the podium to give a play-by-play of what happens when a service member is killed in action and how grieving family members are informed.
'Most Americans don't know what happens when we lose one of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines or coast guardsman in combat,' he said.
As he went through the process, the press briefing room fell silent.
'Their buddies wrap them up in whatever passes for a shroud. Puts them on a helicopter as a routine. And sends them home,' Kelly said.
The retired general noted how the body was packed with ice, and then packed with ice again in a stopover in Europe, before the deceased lands at the Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, where all American casualties are processed.
The White House chief of staff encouraged the reporters in the room to watch Taking Chance, a 2009 movie starring Kevin Bacon, that shows the painful process in full detail as the body of Chance Phelps comes home.
The movie was based on a real account. And Kelly said he lived through the action.
'Chance Phelps was killed under my command, right next to me,' the retired four-star general said.
 

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[h=3]WHO IS REP. FREDERICA WILSON?[/h]
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Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson, a reliably liberal Democrat, has been a member of Congress since 2011.
Wilson, 74, was among more than 60 Democrats who skipped President Trump's inauguration in January. At the time she said her god-daughter's wedding conflicted with the event.
The perennially cowboy-hatted lawmaker has earned a reputation for missing other events as well – notably, votes on the House floor.
The Broward New Times reported in 2011 that no member of Florida's congressional delegation missed more votes that year than she did.
Wilson skipped 117 out of 948 votes that year.
Her tenure in Congress has led her to weigh in on issues of race and social justice, including in 2013 when she authored a congressional resolution 'honoring the life of Trayvon Martin' and calling the case one of 'racial profiling.'
And she told a town hall meeting in 2011 that conservative Republicans were responsible for the high rate of African-American unemployment.
'Let us all remember who the real enemy is ... the real enemy is the Tea Party ... the Tea Party holds the Congress hostage,' she said.
Wilson is among the Florida congressional delegation's wealthiest members, reporting more than $1.5 million in assets on her government financial disclosure form.
 

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Kelly went into gut-wrenching detail on how the families are informed.
If there are parents, an officer heads to their home. If a wife is left behind, hers, too. If the parents are divorced, then three officers are deployed.
'The casualty officer proceeds to break the heart of a family member,' Kelly said.
The chief of staff also detailed what he told Trump when the president decided to call the families of the four lost Green Berets.
'Typically the only phone calls a family receives are the most important phone calls they can imagine, and that is from their buddies,' Kelly first explained.
A deceased servicemember's next-of-kin has to agree to take a president's phone call, Kelly also said.
Kelly explained that the sentiments Trump shared were similar to the ones uttered by the chief of staff's own casualty officer, his 'best friend' Gen. Joe Dunford.
'He said, "Kel, he was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1 percent. He knew what the possibilities were because we're at war,'" Kelly recalled.
'And when he died, in the four cases we're talking about, in Niger, and my son's case in Afghanistan, when he died, he was surrounded by the best men on this earth, his friends,' Kelly continued.
'That's what the president tried to say to the four families the other day,' Kelly said.
The White House chief of staff said that Trump 'in his way' tried to express that.
'That he's a brave man. A fallen hero. He knew what he was getting himself into because he enlisted. There was no reason to enlist. He enlisted,' Kelly said, trying to quote Trump. 'And he was where he wanted to be, exactly where he wanted to be, with exactly the people he wanted to be with when his life was taken.'
'That was the message,' Kelly said. 'That was the message that was transmitted.'
Later, as he took questions from the press, Kelly lamented that America had become a place where everything is politicized and nothing is off limits.
'As a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred, looked upon with great honor. That's obviously not the case anymore, as we see from recent cases. Life, the dignity of life was sacred. That's gone. Religion, that seems to be gone as well. Gold Star families – I think that left in the convention over the summer,' he said.
Kelly's comment about the convention, appeared to be a remark about Trump's fight with Khizr Khan.
Khan's son, Humayun, died in action in Iraq. Khan berated Trump in a speech at the Democratic National Convention for his proposed treatment of Muslims.
During the presser, Kelly also revealed that Wilson's actions had 'stunned' him in the past, though noted he never went to the press to tattletale.
He recalled still being on active duty and visiting Miami in April 2015 for a ceremony to mark the opening of a new FBI field office.
The office was named after two fallen officers, Benjamin P. Grogan and Jerry L. Dove, who were killed in a firefight in the area in 1986.
The White House chief of staff slightly botched their names calling them Grogan and Duke.
'Jim Comey gave an absolutely brilliant memorial speech to those fallen men and to all of the men and women and the FBI who serve our country so well, and law enforcement who serve our country so well,' Kelly recalled.
'There were family members there,' he continued. 'Some of the children there were only three or four years old when their dads were killed on that street in Miami-Dade.'
'Three of the men who survived the fight were there and gave a rendition of how brave those men were,' Kelly added.
Then came Wilson's turn to speak.
'The congresswoman stood up,' he recalled. 'And in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise ... talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building and how she took care of her constituents because she got the money and she just called up President Obama and on that phone call he gave the money, the $20 million to build the building and she sat down.'
Kelly said he and other audience members were stunned that she didn't pay homage to the deceased.
'Even for somebody that is that empty a barrel we were stunned,' he said.
 

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[h=3]GEN. JOHN KELLY'S STUNNING WHITE HOUSE SPEECH[/h]GEN. JOHN KELLY: 'Most Americans don't know what happens when we lose one of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines or coast guardsman in combat. So let me tell you what happens. Their buddies wrap them up in whatever passes as a shroud, puts them on a helicopter as a routine, and sends them home.
'Their first stop along the way is when they're packed in ice, typically at the airhead and then they're flown to usually Europe – where they're then packed in ice again and flown to Dover Air Force Base. Where Dover takes care of the remains, embalms them, meticulously dresses them in their uniform with the medals that they've earned, the emblems of their service and then puts them on another airplane linked up with the casualty officer escort that takes them home.
'A very, very good movie to watch is "Taking Chance" if you haven't seen it, where this is done in a movie, HBO setting. Chance Phelps was killed under my command, right next to me. It's worth seeing that if you have never seen it. So that's the process.
'While that's happening, a casualty officer typically goes to the home very early in the morning and waits for the first lights to come on. And then he knocks on the door. Typically the mom and dad will answer. Wife. If there is a wife this is happening in two different places. If the parents are divorced, three different places. And the casualty officer proceeds to break the heart of a family member. And stays with that family until, well, for a long, long time, even after the interment. So that's what happens.
'Who are these young men and women? They are the best 1 per cent this country produces. Most of you as Americans don't know them. Many of you don't know anyone who knows any one of them. But they are the very best that this country produces. And they volunteer to protect our country when there's nothing in our country anymore that seems to suggest that selfless service to the nation is not only appropriate but required. But that's all right.
'Who writes letters to the families? Typically the company commander – in my case as a Marine, the company commander – the battalion commander, regimental commander, division commander, secretary of defense, typically the service chief, the commandant of the Marine Corps, and the president, typically writes a letter.
'Typically the only phone calls a family receives are the most important phone calls they can imagine, and that is from their buddies. In my case, hours after my son was killed, his friends were calling us from Afghanistan, telling us what a great guy he was. Those are the only phone calls that really matter. And yeah, the letters count to a degree, but there's not much that really can take the edge off what a family member is going through.
'So some presidents have elected to call. All presidents, I believe, have elected to send letters. If you elect to call a family like this, it is about the most difficult thing you could imagine. There's no perfect way to make that phone call. When I took this job and talked to President Trump about how to do it, my first recommendation was, he not do it. Because it's not the phone call that parents, family members are looking forward to. It's a "nice to do" in my opinion, in any event.
'He asked me about previous presidents. And I said I can tell you that President Obama, who was my commander-in-chief when I was on active duty, did not call my family. That was not a criticism. That was just to simply say I don't believe President Obama called. That's not a negative thing. I don't believe President Bush called in all cases. I don't believe any president, particularly when the casualty rates are very, very high, that presidents call. I believe they all write.
'So when I gave that explanation to our president three days ago, he elected to make phone calls in the case of the four young men who we lost in Niger at the earlier part of this month. But then he said, you know, "How do you make these calls?" If you're not in the family, if you've never worn the uniform, if you've never been in combat, you can't even imagine how to make that phone call. But he very bravely does make those calls.
'The call in question that he made yesterday, a day before yesterday now, were to four family members. The four fallen. And remember, there's a next of kin, designated by the individual. If he's married, that's typically the spouse. If he's not married, that's typically the parents, unless the parents are divorced and then he selects one of them. If he didn't get along with his parents, he'll select a sibling. But the point is the phone call is made to the next of kin only if the next of kin agrees to take the phone call. Sometimes they don't. So a pre-call is made: "The President of the United States or the commandant of the Marine Corps, or someone would like to call. Will you accept the call?" And typically they accept the call.
'So he called four people yesterday and expressed his condolences the best way he could. He said to me, "What do I say?" I said to him, "Sir, there's nothing you can do to lighten the burden on these families."
'Let me tell you what I tell them. Let me tell you what my best friend Joe Dunford told me, as he was my casualty officer. He said, "Kel, he was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1 percent. He knew what the possibilities were because we're at war." And when he died, in the four cases we're talking about, in Niger, and my son's case in Afghanistan, when he died, he was surrounded by the best men on this earth, his friends. That's what the president tried to say to the four families the other day.
'I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning, and broken-hearted, at what I saw a member of Congress doing. A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the President of the United States to a young wife. And in his way he tried to express that opinion, that he's a brave man, a fallen hero. He knew what he was getting himself into because he enlisted. There was no reason to enlist. He enlisted. And he was where he wanted to be, exactly where he wanted to be, with exactly the people he wanted to be with when his life was taken. That was the message. That was the message that was transmitted.
'It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred.
'You know, when I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred, looked upon with great honor. That's obviously not the case anything as we see from recent cases. Life, the dignity of life is sacred. That's gone. Religion, that seems to be gone as well. Gold star families – I think that left in the convention over the summer. I just thought that selfless devotion that brings a man or women to die in the battlefield, I just thought that that might be sacred.
'When I listen to this woman and what she was saying, what she was doing on TV, the only thing I could do to collect my thoughts is to go and walk among the finest men and women on this earth. You can always find them. They're in Arlington National Cemetery. I went over there for an hour and a half, walked among the stones, some of whom I put there, because they were doing what I told them to do when they were killed.
'I'll end with this: In October, April of 2015, I was still on active duty. I went to the dedication of the new FBI field office in Miami. And it was dedicated to two men that were killed in a firefight in Miami with, against drug traffickers in 1986. A guy by the name of Grogan, and Duke [sic]. Grogan almost retired, 53 years old. Duke, I think less than a year on the job. Anyways, they got in a gun fight and they were killed. Three other FBI agents were there, wounded. Now retired.
'So we go down, Jim Comey did an absolutely brilliant memorial speech to those fallen men, and to all of the men and women of the FBI who serve our country so well, and law enforcement so well. There were family members there. Some of the children that were there were only 3 or 4 years old when their dads were killed on that street in Miami-Dade. Three of the men that survived the fight were there and gave a rendition of how brave those men were and how they gave their lives.
'And a congresswoman stood up – and in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building, and how she took care of her constituents because she got the money. And she just called up president Obama and on that phone call he gave the money, the $20 million to build the building. She sat down. We were stunned, stunned that she'd done it. Even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned. But you know, none of us went to the press and criticized. None of us stood up and were appalled. We just said, "Okay, fine."
'So I still hope as you write your stories, and I appeal to America, that let's not let this maybe last thing that's held sacred in our society, a young man, a young woman going out and giving his or her life for our country, let's try to somehow keep that sacred. But it eroded a great deal yesterday by the selfish behavior of a member of Congress. So I'm willing to take a question or two on this topic.
'Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Is anyone here a Gold Star parent or sibling? Does anyone here know a Gold Star parent or sibling? Okay. You get the question.'
REPORTER: 'Thank you, General Kelly. First of all, you have a great deal of respect. "Semper Fi" for everything you've ever done. But if we could take this a bit further. Why were they in Niger? We were told they weren't in armored vehicles and there was no air cover. So what were the specifics about this particular incident, and why we were there? Why are we there?'
GEN. KELLY: 'Well, I'll start by saying there is an investigation. Now, let me back up and say, the fact of the matter is, young men and women that wear our uniform are deployed around the world and there are tens of thousands near the DMZ in North Korea, in Okinawa waiting to go – in South Korea, in Okinawa – ready to go, All over the United States, training, ready to go. They're all over Latin America. Down there they do mostly drug interdiction working with our partners, our great partners the Colombians, the Central Americans, the Mexicans. You know, there's thousands.
'My own son right now, back in the fight for his fifth tour in – against ISIS. There's thousands of them in Europe acting as a deterrent. And then throughout Africa. And they're doing the nation's work there. And not making a lot of money, by the way, doing it. They love what they do. So why were they there? They're there working with partners, local Africans, all across Africa in this case, Niger, working with partners, teaching them how to be better soldiers, teaching them how to respect human rights. Teaching them how to fight ISIS so that we don't have to send our soldiers and Marines there in their thousands. That's what they were doing there.
'Now there's an investigation. There's always – unless it's a very conventional death in a conventional war, there's always an investigation. Of course, that operation is conducted by AFRICOM that of course works directly for the Secretary of Defense. There is a, I talked to Jim Mattis this morning, I think he made statements this afternoon. There's an investigation ongoing.
'An investigation doesn't mean anything was wrong. An investigation doesn't mean people's heads are going to roll. The fact is, they need to find out what happened and why it happened. But at the end of the day, ladies and gentlemen, you have to understand that these young people, sometimes old guys, put on the uniform, go to where we send them to protect our country.
'Sometimes they go in large numbers to invade Iraq, invade Afghanistan. Sometimes they're working in small units, working with our partners in Africa, Asia, Latin America, helping them be better. But at the end of the day, they're helping those partners be better at fighting ISIS and north Africa to protect our country so that we don't have to send large numbers of troops.
'Any other – someone who knows a Gold Star fallen person. John?'
REPORTER: 'General, thank you for being here today. Thank you for your service and for your family's sacrifice. There's been some talk about the timetable of the release of the statement about the – I think at that point it was three soldiers who were killed in Niger. Can you walk us through the timetable of the release of that information, and what part did the fact that a beacon was pinging during that time have to do with the relase of the statement? And were you concerned that divulging the information early might jeopardize a soldier's safety?'
GEN. KELLY: 'First of all, we're at the highest level of the U.S. government. The people that will answer those questions are the people at the other end of the military pyramid. I'm sure the Special Forces group is conducting – I know they're conducting an investigation. That investigation, of course, under the auspices of AFRICOM. Ultimately it will go to the Pentagon.'
'I've read the same stories you have, I actually know a lot more than I'm letting on, but I'm not going to tell you. There's an investigation being done. But as I say, the men and women of our country that are serving all around the world – I mean, you know, what the hell is my son doing back in the fight? He's back in the fight because, working with Iraqi soldiers who are infinitely better than they were a few years ago to take on ISIS directly so hat we don't have to do it. Small numbers of Marines where he is, working alongside those guys. That's why they're out there.
'Whether it's Niger, Iraq or whatever. We don't want to send tens of thousands of soldiers and Marines in particular to go fight.
'I'll take one more. But it's got to be from someone who knows – all right.'
REPORTER: 'General, when you talk about Niger, sir, what does your intelligence tell you about the Russian connection with them and what – the stories coming out now?'
GEN. KELLY: 'I'm not in a position to know that. That's a question for NORTHCOM or for – not NORTHCOM, for AFRICOM or D.O.D. So thanks very much.
'As I walk off the stage, understand there's tens of thousands of American kids, mostly, doing the nation's bidding all around the world. They don't have to be in uniform. You know, when I was a kid, every man in my life who was a veteran – World War II, Korea, and there was the draft. These young people today, they don't do it for any other reason than their selfless, sense of selfless devotion to this great nation.
'We don't look down upon those of you that haven't served. In fact, in a way we're a little bit sorry, because you'll never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kind of things our servicemen and women do. Not for any other reason than they love this country.
'So just think of that. And I appreciate your time. thank you.'
 

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Kelly absolutely shamed that congresswoman. That congresswoman has no hiding place now.
 

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Kelly absolutely shamed that congresswoman. That congresswoman has no hiding place now.


You would think she would lay low but she is showing what a classless c**t she is . Is there any doubt she is a Democrat just by looking at her?
I think she might be related to Auntie Maxine .


"John Kelly's trying to keep his job. He will say anything," says @RepWilson in response to Trump's staff chief who ripped her for disclosing details of controversial call with soldier's widow. "There were other people who heard what I heard."
 

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Another piece of shit Democrat chimes in.

Brian Fallon


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Kelly isnt just an enabler of Trump. He's a believer in him. That makes him as odious as the rest. Dont be distracted by the uniform.
 

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