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NINE other associations have agreed to re-define the danger numbers for hypertension

For those unaware, heart disease is the number one killer in the western world. Game changer, full blown panic has set-in. Big Pharma licking its chops?...:)


Blood pressure of 130 is the new ‘high,’ according to first update of guidelines in 14 years

Leading heart health experts tightened the guidelines for high blood pressure Monday, a change that will sharply increase the number of U.S. adults considered hypertensive in the hope that they, and their doctors, will address the deadly condition sooner.
The American Heart Association, the American College of Cardiology and nine other groups redefined high blood pressure as a reading of 130 over 80, down from 140 over 90. The change, the first in 14 years, means that 46 percent of U.S. adults, many of them under the age of 45, now will be considered hypertensive. Under the previous guideline, 32 percent of U.S. adults had high blood pressure.
“We're recognizing that blood pressures that we in the past thought were normal or so-called pre-hypertensive actually placed the patient at significant risk for heart disease and death and disability,” said Robert M. Carey, co-chairman of the group that produced the new report. “The risk hasn't changed. What's changed is our recognition of the risk.”



But the report's authors predicted relatively few of those who fall into the new hypertensive category will need medication. Rather, they hope that many found with the early stages of the condition will be able to address it through lifestyle changes such as losing weight, improving their diet, getting more exercise, consuming less alcohol and sodium and lowering stress.
The guidelines should be influential in clinical practice, with most health care providers expected to follow the recommendations. In addition to tightening the definition of high blood pressure, the new report does away with the old category of “pre-hypertension,” which was defined as a top (systolic) reading of 120 to 139 or a bottom (diastolic) number between 80 and 89.


The new guidelines create categories including “elevated,” “Stage 1 and 2 hypertension,” and “hypertensive crisis,” each characterized by various blood pressure readings. Normal blood pressure still will be considered 120 over 80.
The systolic reading refers to the pressure when the heart contracts and sends blood through the arteries. Diastolic pressure is measured when the heart relaxes between beats.


The guidelines suggest that doctors recommend lifestyle changes for people found to have elevated blood pressure. Those with Stage 1 hypertension should be assessed for their 10-year risk of heart disease or stroke under the parameters of a widely used matrix for cardiovascular health. Those with more than a 10 percent chance, or other complicating factors, should try medication.
“An important cornerstone of these new guidelines is a strong emphasis on lifestyle changes as the first line of therapy. There is an opportunity to reduce risk without necessarily imposing medications,” said Richard Chazal, the immediate past president of the American College of Cardiology.
The authors of the report expect that many adults younger than 45 will find themselves included under the new threshold. The lower score is expected to triple the number of younger men considered hypertensive and double the number of younger women with high blood pressure.
The authors of the report also want people already in treatment to try to reach the new blood pressure goal.


High blood pressure is the leading cause of death worldwide and the second-leading cause of preventable death in the United States, after cigarette smoking. Hypertension leads to cardiovascular disease, strokes, severe kidney disease and other maladies that kill millions every year. Blood pressure is affected by a wide variety of factors including genetics, age, diet, exercise, stress and other diseases such as diabetes. Men are more likely to have high blood pressure than women and blacks are more likely than whites. Many people are unaware that they have the condition because there are no symptoms.
Much of the data to support the update came from Systolic Blood Pressure Intervention Trial or SPRINT trial, a large-scale study of more than 9,000 people sponsored by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute. When the results were first presented in 2015, they shook many assumptions about blood pressure management.
The study showed that bringing blood pressure below 120 rather than the recommended 140 to 150 could reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke. While that research only included people 50 and older and at high risk for heart problems, subsequent studies have shown this benefit appears to extend to younger people as well, said Chazal, who is medical director at the Lee Memorial Health System in Fort Myers, Fla.


Thomas R. Frieden, the former director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who now runs a global health initiative that focuses on heart disease and stroke, said the “big news about this guideline is it should end forever any debate about whether people should be treated with medicines once they hit 140/90.” He said that until now there has been “a perspective that it's not that big of a risk, but that's just wrong.”
“The fact is lower is better,” Frieden said, “Even what we considered mild hypertension before is a deadly disease.”




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I seen this last night on my local news and i found it very interesting..You are right that high blood pressure is a leading cause to having heart problems,but the way they lay out this article i just think that they want to aid the drug companies to make more money on peoples blood pressure numbers.They talk about the higher numbers on top when the important number is your bottom number.There are so many people who don't even go to a doctor so they never know if they are at risk or not just because they feel good,well we all have felt good in our years and never thought we had anything wrong with us until that one day we didn't feel well at all and finally went to the doctor and found out they had serious problems.


everybody has different levels of blood pressure which is treated accordingly to what kind of numbers they have,take my situation for instance,i have serious heart problems and yet my blood pressure is and has been pretty good as i take a blood pressure medication of 25mg but i take a half a pill every other day cause they want to just make sure it don''t rise due to my heart issues as a precaution.The AHA defines the numbers i think to try and get the younger crowd to get checked out,and maybe the doc's will say their blood pressure is okay with the 90 number on the bottom just because of their age,but they want to keep checking them maybe every 3 months,but the AHA still likes to see that bottom number under 90 for anybody,weather it be 85 or a point higher they feel that is good,cause lets face it,our blood pressure changes all the time during the day,as if something goes bad at work we get all uptight about it so then our pressure goes up,when we get home the kids are in sugar shock and running around crazy you might get irritated and begin yelling and then your pressure changes,so its all how you treat yourself on your activity daily,hell i know some people that are in good health and have a doctor and they are told their blood pressure is low,what do you do then,go nuts daily and raise it,well NO,just feel like you are one of the luckiest ones around,...i'll end rambling with this,my good friend i worked with was in great condition,ran marathons worked out etc and one day he was jogging and dropped dead,wow and that's a guy who did everything right and still fell to this disease,..now we worked in the corrections officer field in prisons so what do you think happens there,..yea a very high strung job where your blood pressure can rise in your first hour at work,so its something we all should monitor as we read too much that people are dying from heart disease.


i know a lot may not agree with my post but that's what i have to say on the issue
 

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i'll comment further when i have a chance...

you said:

'but the way they lay out this article i just think that they want to aid the drug companies to make more money on peoples blood pressure numbers.


certainly, i agree Big Pharma has potential massive gains. BUT, i will RE-BOLD Mr Chazal's statement;

“An important cornerstone of these new guidelines is a strong emphasis on lifestyle changes as the first line of therapy.


translation-- take fucking personal responsiblity for YOUR lifestyle decisions (few issues in chronic disease are purely genetic ). lose weight, MOVE/exercise (cardiovascular health), decrease perceived 'stress', address sleep apnea issues, stop fucking smoking, stop fucking drinknig in excess..--that's 1st line...then,if that doesnt work....... here's a few pills you can take (big pharma go to town!!!!!...:)...)
 

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I seen this last night on my local news and i found it very interesting..You are right that high blood pressure is a leading cause to having heart problems,but the way they lay out this article i just think that they want to aid the drug companies to make more money on peoples blood pressure numbers.They talk about the higher numbers on top when the important number is your bottom number.There are so many people who don't even go to a doctor so they never know if they are at risk or not just because they feel good,well we all have felt good in our years and never thought we had anything wrong with us until that one day we didn't feel well at all and finally went to the doctor and found out they had serious problems.


everybody has different levels of blood pressure which is treated accordingly to what kind of numbers they have,take my situation for instance,i have serious heart problems and yet my blood pressure is and has been pretty good as i take a blood pressure medication of 25mg but i take a half a pill every other day cause they want to just make sure it don''t rise due to my heart issues as a precaution.The AHA defines the numbers i think to try and get the younger crowd to get checked out,and maybe the doc's will say their blood pressure is okay with the 90 number on the bottom just because of their age,but they want to keep checking them maybe every 3 months,but the AHA still likes to see that bottom number under 90 for anybody,weather it be 85 or a point higher they feel that is good,cause lets face it,our blood pressure changes all the time during the day,as if something goes bad at work we get all uptight about it so then our pressure goes up,when we get home the kids are in sugar shock and running around crazy you might get irritated and begin yelling and then your pressure changes,so its all how you treat yourself on your activity daily,hell i know some people that are in good health and have a doctor and they are told their blood pressure is low,what do you do then,go nuts daily and raise it,well NO,just feel like you are one of the luckiest ones around,...i'll end rambling with this,my good friend i worked with was in great condition,ran marathons worked out etc and one day he was jogging and dropped dead,wow and that's a guy who did everything right and still fell to this disease,..now we worked in the corrections officer field in prisons so what do you think happens there,..yea a very high strung job where your blood pressure can rise in your first hour at work,so its something we all should monitor as we read too much that people are dying from heart disease.


i know a lot may not agree with my post but that's what i have to say on the issue

k, firstly if you want to use outliers as a source for medical 'rubbish', go for it. We are on planet earth for a short period, do as u wish!!There are 70 yr old smokers out there still breathing!! there are marathon runners with 13% body that dropped dead.....OUTLIERS. Statistical data allows health agencies to provide recommendations . And is it clear cardiovascular accidents r killing folks at a DISTURBING rate. Don't like the recommendations ? DO NOT FOLLOW THEM. Honestly, they do not REALLY care about you, sorry..................family cares.
now, GIVEN is in a diseased state, .....make lifestyle changes? pray to the "GODS", hope big Pharma can help?

BTW-Big PHARMA is trying to make a buck. The fat , angry little guy that wont make lifestyle style changes? should we tell him to fuck off , or write him a Rx?
 

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do agree, financial/health illiteracy is a national disgrace
 

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another effect of these new numbers is insurance companies can now raise rates to anyone reclassified. like all the "pre diabetics" are now. health and life insurance premiums now go up for "pre hypertensives". u dont have hyptension but u may get It so cost go up.
 

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they don't care. Go on available data and reap the rewards. Fun

don't sign in, and when shit hits the fan? pay up or blow your brains up. Either way, money will be made. Sick, but true


has Mr Trump fixed this shit yet? what is there to fix?........where's the problem?
 

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Virtually all diseases, including heart disease, are genetic. Luck of the draw. Nothing you can do about it. I know people who ate all the right foods, exercised blah blah blah and still got cancer. Others abused their bodies for decades and have no issues, like high blood pressure.

Frustrating to hear for people who preach rabbit-like diets and Big Pharma pimps but true nonetheless.

On a similar note...

American Heart Association President suffers -- heart attack...



 

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Virtually all diseases, including heart disease, are genetic. Luck of the draw. Nothing you can do about it. I know people who ate all the right foods, exercised blah blah blah and still got cancer. Others abused their bodies for decades and have no issues, like high blood pressure.

Frustrating to hear for people who preach rabbit-like diets and Big Pharma pimps but true nonetheless.

On a similar note...

American Heart Association President suffers -- heart attack...





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call big pharma , they will pay you ,


kindly tell Marge I Love her ....thank you
 

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You don't think that genetics define one's predisposition to heart disease, Ribcoff?

I think they do a little, but I think people picking up the same bad habits as their parents skews those numbers. People that smoke and are exposed to shit like asbestos get cancer far more then those that don't. Diabetes is totally related to diet and exorcise.
 

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You don't think that genetics define one's predisposition to heart disease, Ribcoff?

sir, the fact that you even ask this is a testament to our FAILURE of education. As a health practitioner, I am ashamed

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keep looking at the charts, my friend!! stay well
 

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You don't think that genetics define one's predisposition to heart disease, Ribcoff?

Of course they do!

"While we have known for a long time that blood pressure is a risk factor for coronary heart disease and stroke, our study has shown that there are common genetic risk factors underlying these conditions."

Major global study reveals new hypertension and blood pressure genes

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/...als-new-hypertension-and-blood-pressure-genes
 
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I really don't understand your answer, Ric.

I always look forward to your chart posting and accompanying education. Thanks much for that contribution here.
 

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that's very kind of you, thank you.

:toast:


try to clarify when time permits for a proper reply...hope you have a nice evening
 

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