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    I find it odd that SBR created a big thread lowering BetDSI from A to B and did an article on the downgrading but did not do so with the downgrading from B to C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayerPropKing View Post
    BetDSI has now been downgraded to a C rating on SBRForum.
    Did you tell the guy helping you to get a definite answer on why they aren't paying you? Seems if we know that they have just decided they don't care and are not gonna pay......the only answer is you and both forums should do everything it takes to put them out of business. Because all they are doing is collecting money from people
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayerPropKing View Post
    I find it odd that SBR created a big thread lowering BetDSI from A to B and did an article on the downgrading but did not do so with the downgrading from B to C.
    The top of the header was updated to reflect BetDSI's current rating, but we totally understand the sentiment. Your case remains on our radar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RX Forum View Post
    The top of the header was updated to reflect BetDSI's current rating, but we totally understand the sentiment. Your case remains on our radar.
    SBR went ahead and updated the thread to read "BetDSI Downgraded to C". Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exploited17 View Post
    Did you tell the guy helping you to get a definite answer on why they aren't paying you? Seems if we know that they have just decided they don't care and are not gonna pay......the only answer is you and both forums should do everything it takes to put them out of business. Because all they are doing is collecting money from people
    Their definitive answer is that "we are still not done running the account verification". Matt Rossi of SBR asked if I would be willing to do a live Skype Video Interview to confirm my identity to DSI as the player who initially signed up with my drivers license picture and BetDSI did not take up the offer to do the Skype Interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayerPropKing View Post
    SBR went ahead and updated the thread to read "BetDSI Downgraded to C". Thank you.
    But this is probably a bad development for you.

    Although that DSI absolutely deserves the downgrade, I believe the move from A to B was SBR frustrated with the lack of progess made on the issue with DSI. Clearly, they don't believe DSI is handling this appropriately. This move along with pulling sponsor banner was to send a message to DSI ownership that your issue should be addressed or face another downgrade. The threat didn't matter.

    IMO, if DSI had intentions of paying they would have done so with this downgrade. I would guess DSI is on the clock to address this or receive another downgrade to a D. Which at that point, I don't think youll have any hope of getting paid as DSI as little left to lose. If they had intentions of paying they would have done so before the drop to C and definitely before D. You're holding on to a hope and pray now, I believe.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I think it's officially panic mode. The sky is falling at DSI and you should consider them not an option. I'm a large player there and I have moved my action elsewhere. Thank you for the warning and hope you get every penny. I also hope DSI responds here directly, genuinely and to the point.
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    what are these clowns doing? why do I think they are being investigated or something
    and are dragging their feet on this. starting to sound like all the other
    older books that eventually closed down . hope you get paid
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    Not my live chat (posted on SBR) but shows just how unprofessional BetDSI is.

    John (15:42:29): Hi and welcome to betdsi chat , can I get your User Id and password?
    Eric (15:42:43): So after all the work Chris/Bookmaker did for DSI, you guys ruin in by not paying customers?
    John (15:42:51): false
    Eric (15:42:54): BetDSI had a good name until now
    John (15:43:00): it sstill does
    John (15:43:02): great name
    Eric (15:43:14): No it doesn't. Look at SBR, you went from an A to a C
    John (15:43:28): SBR is just one affiliate
    Eric (15:43:31): Many players bitching about how bad it is
    John (15:43:45): many player bitch about everybook
    Eric (15:43:47): I read bad things at Covers, TheRX, EOG
    Eric (15:44:03): Never a slow pay or no pay from BookMaker, 5Dimes, Heritiage, Pinny?
    John (15:44:06): I read bad things at Covers, TheRX, EOG about every book
    John (15:44:13): lol
    Eric (15:44:16): But not NO PAYS
    Eric (15:44:31): Are you new to bookmaking?
    John (15:44:32): Never a slow pay or no pay from BookMaker, 5Dimes, Heritiage, Pinny????
    Eric (15:44:41): NEVER
    John (15:44:50): I play at book maker also
    John (15:44:58): bet dsi for 10 years
    Eric (15:45:01): and you've never not been paid
    Eric (15:45:09): DSI is not paying it's players
    John (15:45:21): people dont believe everything anonymous posters post on forums
    John (15:45:37): you also seen many posters post great things about dsi
    John (15:45:46): choose to believe what you wish
    Eric (15:45:51): https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...raded-c-81701/
    John (15:45:58): business has never been betetr
    Eric (15:46:01): To a C
    John (15:46:10): on SBR
    John (15:46:12): so?
    Eric (15:46:16): BetDSI soon to be Lenny from Cascade
    John (15:46:19): sbr is just one affiliate
    Eric (15:46:30): A pretty big one and you don't care?
    John (15:46:31): gthey are not God
    John (15:46:38): we care
    Eric (15:46:44): No you don't
    John (15:46:51): ok
    Eric (15:46:51): otherwise you would explain why the issue?
    John (15:47:01): you tell me how I feel ?? fine
    John (15:47:20): there is no issue
    Eric (15:47:26): Explain the issue at SBR?
    Eric (15:47:40): So, their store is false?
    Eric (15:47:46): *story
    John (15:48:00): there is more to it
    John (15:48:18): if you bet here and win, you will always get paid
    John (15:48:27): that has always been the case for 20 years
    John (15:48:31): nothing has changed
    Eric (15:48:34): Why didn't that player get paid?
    Eric (15:48:53): Hey, but you were always under the BookMaker backers
    John (15:49:00): again, that isnt true
    John (15:49:19): see what happens? you are saying something as fact when it isnt
    Eric (15:49:19): Is this Lenny?
    Eric (15:49:25): Or John from BetIslands?
    John (15:49:34): this is betdsi
    Eric (15:49:45): "C" Rated BetDSI
    Eric (15:49:57): You won't be getting my desposit
    John (15:50:07): dont play here then. People that do, know there is nothing to worry about
    John (15:50:10): ok
    John (15:50:13): play elsewhere
    Eric (15:50:18): People are pulling their money out
    John (15:50:22): nope
    John (15:50:24): fake news
    Eric (15:50:28): Oh yes they are
    John (15:50:34): nope
    John (15:50:36): Anything else I can help you with?
    Eric (15:50:40): Well, you have a good day
    John (15:50:46): Ioutta know
    John (15:50:51): U have a super day
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    Has anyone else encountered page on BetDSI requesting SSN? Nervous about DSI solvency but holding off on giving them more personl info.
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    Still have not been paid. BetDSI has yet to contact me once. Matt Rossi of SBRForum has not sent me any update on my account status this week, was supposed to have a conversation with DSI regarding my issue.
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    I seriously hope you get your money! I played at DSI for several years while they were under Bookmaker's backing. Never had a problem withdrawing funds from them. But again, that was when they were with Bookmaker. I wonder if Bookmaker had issues with Betdsi that made them move away from them
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    I have been getting the same run around as you. Pretty much identical situation but for slightly less money. I’m owed 11k and have been trying to request a withdrawal for 2 months now. They wouldn’t give me any specific answers to my questions, just bs generic responses for weeks up until last week where they stopped replying to me completely. Completely unprofessional and I’m at the point where I feel like I have been stolen from. Not sure what else there is to do. Perhaps their ship is sinking and they are pulling an exit scam?
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    if theyr going down I hope another book will take over the existing accounts. Even though there would be a high rollover required, its better than losing our money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctswisha123 View Post
    I have been getting the same run around as you. Pretty much identical situation but for slightly less money. I’m owed 11k and have been trying to request a withdrawal for 2 months now. They wouldn’t give me any specific answers to my questions, just bs generic responses for weeks up until last week where they stopped replying to me completely. Completely unprofessional and I’m at the point where I feel like I have been stolen from. Not sure what else there is to do. Perhaps their ship is sinking and they are pulling an exit scam?
    Hi Ctswisha123, can you please submit a complaint form?
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    Been asking for update all week from SBR regarding my situation with BetDSI since they said they were going to have a conversation with them and received this today from Matt Rossi of SBR.

    "Afraid we have nothing new as of this time.

    Best regards,
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    BetDSI Sportsbook Downgraded to D+


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    [COLOR=#000000 !important]On November 27, SBR reported that a BetDSI Sportsbook player has had a balance of $23,832.17 in limbo since August 4. The player's account has been frozen for withdrawals since that time.
    BetDSI's position is that the player is wagering on behalf of a third-party. The sportsbook has been unable to substantiate this claim. The player maintains that his account is his own and that he can speak for all wagers placed. SBR asked if he would be willing to be video interviewed on Skype; the player said he has no problem with this and shared his Skype username the same day.
    A manager with BetDSI offered to place the $23,832 balance into an escrow account while the player's identity undergoes further verification. No time-frame has been offered on when or how this verification will be conducted. The industry standard is that when sportsbooks suspend accounts for allegedly being connected to other users — such as a player who was previously barred or limited — evidence is produced such as common wagers, IP addresses, or other material links that establish the flouting of house rules. No such evidence has been made available. A sportsbook is free to close an account for any reason whatsoever, but cannot withhold winnings based on hunches rather than facts.
    SBR questioned the player on if he has knowledge of any friends who have BetDSI accounts or who may have placed wagers while at his home. The player said he knows of no other BetDSI account-holders and maintains all wagers were placed by him from his home, where he has resided for the life of his BetDSI account.
    BetDSI Player: "I really just want a hard set date as to when this will be resolved. It has been [4] months. I don't want to keep calling them and emailing you. I don't want to keep hearing the same old we are verifying your account, we are updating our system interface, etc. It's the same story from them every week."
    He posted the details of his complaint at a sports betting message-board. Earlier today, a forum user responded to the thread that he has had a $11,000 balance in limbo for two months. SBR requested additional information from the player and is in the process of confirming the details of this latest complaint:

    "I have been getting the same run around as you. Pretty much identical situation but for slightly less money. I’m owed 11k and have been trying to request a withdrawal for 2 months now. They wouldn’t give me any specific answers to my questions, just bs generic responses for weeks up until last week where they stopped replying to me completely," wrote the player.
    A third complaint was shared from a player who reported that he has been waiting more than three weeks for a $1,500 payout. SBR is looking into this issue, and asks players in need of assistance with BetDSI to submit a sportsbook complaint form.
    SBR cited complaint handling as one of the outstanding issues that have surfaced since the sportsbook went independent on July 9, 2017; BetDSI previously utilized the resources and services of A+ rated Bookmaker.eu. Due to the severity of the issues and the absence of evidence to support withholding funds, BetDSI's rating has been adjusted to D+.
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    BetDSI Sportsbook Downgraded to D+

    On November 27,SBR reportedthat a BetDSI Sportsbook player has had a balance of $23,832.17 in limbo since August 4. The player's account has been frozen for withdrawals since that time.
    [COLOR=#000000 !important]BetDSI's position is that the player is wagering on behalf of a third-party. The sportsbook has been unable to substantiate this claim. The player maintains that his account is his own and that he can speak for all wagers placed. SBR asked if he would be willing to be video interviewed on Skype; the player said he has no problem with this and shared his Skype username the same day.
    A manager with BetDSI offered to place the $23,832 balance into an escrow account while the player's identity undergoes further verification. No time-frame has been offered on when or how this verification will be conducted. The industry standard is that when sportsbooks suspend accounts for allegedly being connected to other users — such as a player who was previously barred or limited — evidence is produced such as common wagers, IP addresses, or other material links that establish the flouting of house rules. No such evidence has been made available. A sportsbook is free to close an account for any reason whatsoever, but cannot withhold winnings based on hunches rather than facts.
    SBR questioned the player on if he has knowledge of any friends who have BetDSI accounts or who may have placed wagers while at his home. The player said he knows of no other BetDSI account-holders and maintains all wagers were placed by him from his home, where he has resided for the life of his BetDSI account.
    BetDSI Player: "I really just want a hard set date as to when this will be resolved. It has been [4] months. I don't want to keep calling them and emailing you. I don't want to keep hearing the same old we are verifying your account, we are updating our system interface, etc. It's the same story from them every week."
    He posted the details of his complaint at a sports betting message-board. Earlier today, a forum user responded to the thread that he has had a $11,000 balance in limbo for two months. SBR requested additional information from the player and is in the process of confirming the details of this latest complaint:

    "I have been getting the same run around as you. Pretty much identical situation but for slightly less money. I’m owed 11k and have been trying to request a withdrawal for 2 months now. They wouldn’t give me any specific answers to my questions, just bs generic responses for weeks up until last week where they stopped replying to me completely," wrote the player.
    A third complaint was shared from a player who reported that he has been waiting more than three weeks for a $1,500 payout. SBR is looking into this issue, and asks players in need of assistance with BetDSI to submit a sportsbook complaint form.
    SBR cited complaint handling as one of the outstanding issues that have surfaced since the sportsbook went independent on July 9, 2017; BetDSI previously utilized the resources and services of A+ rated Bookmaker.eu. Due to the severity of the issues and the absence of evidence to support withholding funds, BetDSI's rating has been adjusted to D+.
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    "A manager with BetDSI offered to place the $23,832 balance into an escrow account while the player's identity undergoes further verification."

    I am currently waiting to hear from SBR to see if they accepted BetDSI's offer to have the money put in escrow. Hopefully they did. Will update shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defying View Post
    But this is probably a bad development for you.

    I would guess DSI is on the clock to address this or receive another downgrade to a D. Which at that point, I don't think youll have any hope of getting paid as DSI as little left to lose. If they had intentions of paying they would have done so before the drop to C and definitely before D. You're holding on to a hope and pray now, I believe.
    Bitcoin more than triples since DSI ventured out on their own. They still can't make it.

    Sorry PlayerProp - this continues to only get worse. I'm glad SBR is fighting for you, but if DSI had any intentions on paying they would have done it well before now.
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    SBR - There seems to be another angle worth investigating here. Why'd bookmaker drop DSI?

    So I'm just word vomiting scenarios.. but what if it was because someone was stealing? what if DSI's books were so far off they couldnt be salvaged? what if it was much more innocent than that and they just realized the players there were beating them and funds were low there?

    Is it okay that Bookmaker would just toss aside a brand in hopes they aren't connected with it? I would think Bookmaker has some responsibility here in any of these situations. There are many sitatuins where DSI could have been mismanaged under Bookmakers care.

    It wouldn't be right for one company to have all these different brands, and if one is getting beat by the players, or even mismanaged by the GM where its losing money to cut it and say its on its own now and 6 months later they stiff and thinking they have no blood on their hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defying View Post

    Is it okay that Bookmaker would just toss aside a brand in hopes they aren't connected with it? I would think Bookmaker has some responsibility here in any of these situations. There are many sitatuins where DSI could have been mismanaged under Bookmakers care.

    It wouldn't be right for one company to have all these different brands, and if one is getting beat by the players, or even mismanaged by the GM where its losing money to cut it and say its on its own now and 6 months later they stiff and thinking they have no blood on their hands.

    1,000% Agree with all of this and I let BookMaker know that it's complete bullshit that they will not help resolve this issue. I called BookMaker when DSI ventured on their own and they told me they still vouched for them and that I was safe playing there. Once DSI started to give me the run around, I called BookMaker back and they said "there is nothing we can do, we have no affiliation with DSI anymore." Bookmaker should have AT LEAST notified players via email that DSI was no longer under their management and to proceed knowing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctswisha123 View Post
    I have been getting the same run around as you. Pretty much identical situation but for slightly less money. I’m owed 11k and have been trying to request a withdrawal for 2 months now. They wouldn’t give me any specific answers to my questions, just bs generic responses for weeks up until last week where they stopped replying to me completely. Completely unprofessional and I’m at the point where I feel like I have been stolen from. Not sure what else there is to do. Perhaps their ship is sinking and they are pulling an exit scam?
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    Hi Ctswisha123, can you please submit a complaint form?
    Hi Ctswisha123,

    BetDSI has been unable to identify your account with what you've shared. Please check your PM box/email, or file the complaint linked above, so that we can ask BetDSI mgt to review your situation.
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