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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    People aren't tying NFLTrends to Mog at all, obviously he isn't responsible for any of this. He's just a respected poster on the site and it is known that him/Mog have both acknowledged they will be starting a retail business establishment together so people were hoping he could shed light on Mog's ability to pay back money that he owes to posters (apparently several posters at this point)
    And I get that but people should also understand Trends doesn't need to say anything or owe anyone an explanation. Enter at your own risk

    If he had the money available I am sure he would pay the posters back. By looking at his betting style unless you have a very large roll you wouldn't be able to keep up with the live betting, Large ML bets etc. Too many hands got involved, I don't even know how you could text/contact people to get down and then chase the loss with a larger amount and keep everything organized. The whole process got too complicated, people probably got out of their comfort zone and wouldnt use more credit to chase the losses
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    So was that 900+k screenshot legit? Or was it doctored somehow to make him look like a highroller?
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    If this guy had 15 people to deal with and live betting was a huge part of his “system”.

    Explain to me how he was able to contact 15 people at one time to make a live bet with a 60 second window .

    Its hard to do that with one person much less 15 or more .

    This guy had no system. He just wanted credit .

    And most of the plays he posted in this thread are the perfect kind of plays to post on a forum hoping for a a short term heater to get everyone excited .

    Buying up to 3 points on a side , large money line bets .

    Not a hard thing to do with a short window of plays to get people all excited about hi. .
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    I believe, but was said early in phone conversations, that mogley stated he was paying trends a salary while trends was doing most of the leg work in Vegas to open the bar. Mogley has to stop the cash flow when things got tight for him. Another sign that I think Mogley is just shopping for credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by In2Win View Post
    And I get that but people should also understand Trends doesn't need to say anything or owe anyone an explanation. Enter at your own risk

    If he had the money available I am sure he would pay the posters back. By looking at his betting style unless you have a very large roll you wouldn't be able to keep up with the live betting, Large ML bets etc. Too many hands got involved, I don't even know how you could text/contact people to get down and then chase the loss with a larger amount and keep everything organized. The whole process got too complicated, people probably got out of their comfort zone and wouldnt use more credit to chase the losses
    Yeah he doesn't owe an explanation but if you were owed 2500, 5k, 10k, whatever to this guy and his business partner was a well respected forum member, you would probably want to hear what he has to say on the matter, right?

    You just would want to hear his perspective as he might have a better idea if you are completely SOL or not for 4-5 figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    Yeah he doesn't owe an explanation but if you were owed 2500, 5k, 10k, whatever to this guy and his business partner was a well respected forum member, you would probably want to hear what he has to say on the matter, right?

    You just would want to hear his perspective as he might have a better idea if you are completely SOL or not for 4-5 figures.
    I’m sure Trends will comment at some point and I bet he says Mowgli got shady, doesn’t have money, so he walked away from the Man Cave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPTALK View Post
    If this guy had 15 people to deal with and live betting was a huge part of his “system”.

    Explain to me how he was able to contact 15 people at one time to make a live bet with a 60 second window .

    Its hard to do that with one person much less 15 or more .

    This guy had no system. He just wanted credit .

    And most of the plays he posted in this thread are the perfect kind of plays to post on a forum hoping for a a short term heater to get everyone excited .

    Buying up to 3 points on a side , large money line bets .

    Not a hard thing to do with a short window of plays to get people all excited about hi. .

    Can't recall when I have agreed with you but, Exactly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPTALK View Post
    If this guy had 15 people to deal with and live betting was a huge part of his “system”.

    Explain to me how he was able to contact 15 people at one time to make a live bet with a 60 second window .

    Its hard to do that with one person much less 15 or more .

    This guy had no system. He just wanted credit .

    And most of the plays he posted in this thread are the perfect kind of plays to post on a forum hoping for a a short term heater to get everyone excited .

    Buying up to 3 points on a side , large money line bets .

    Not a hard thing to do with a short window of plays to get people all excited about hi. .
    60 second window? Most live bets the window isn't even close to that large. I always enjoy when gamblers state "I am really good with live betting because I get such a good feel for the game". 99.9 of gamblers say this and aren't really good at it at all...one factor being the increased juice almost every sportsbook offers on live betting. It's like sex...everyone thinks they are the best.
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    I was asked earlier if I was an investor or booked his action. The answer is no to both. I never got involved nor would I ever in any sense.

    For record keeping purposes and please correct if it is wrong:

    I show the following is owed to posters:

    Razorbackspicks $750
    East Coast Bias $2,500

    If I missed anyone's claims then post it.

    I will add this, those that are owed money and are being silent in hopes of being paid, just come forward. The chances of you getting paid are slim to none. If a guy can't pay someone $750, what makes you think he is going to pay you.

    You are just hurting others by staying silent. Let's face it, we know it's embarrassing, it's hard to give up hope, however at one time or another we have all been stiffed by someone or a book. I can bring up examples where I've been stiffed. Anyone remember Samantha from The Dunes or how about Eddie Hadeed from Royal. We won't even talk about Betonsports. I was stiffed large sums of money, but luckily for me, I was able to get a lot out first.

    So you aren't the first and certainly won't be the last, the point of the matter is if you are getting screwed over, shout it from the rooftop, don't sit like a mouse. Help your fellow brethren avoid the same mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    Did you see his post in the financial forum? If your a mod and you see that then you see the solicitations for a "business arrangement", what you doing in that spot? He actually read the thread in the financial forum and pretended it was remotely legitimate. Read that shit "Guaranteed profits of 15k a month because he can get special deals with sportsbook owners!", "It's like a stock that only goes UP!"....You're gonna knowingly keep quiet and let posters get involved with someone after reading that? Really?

    Of course when you call BAS out on this, he has to lash out and call posters idiots. Well, if I were a mod here instead of you then posters would likely have thousands more dollars of their own money right now. Now who's the idiot? Cmon bro, that's absurd.

    Here's my only post in that Thread you talk about

    Tell me where I was wrong back in Dec. 2017 WAY BEFORE he started "Touting"

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    12-29-2017, 09:40 AM
    This is an old Post so not sure if it's active

    Guess you could email him to find out.

    For those that have seen the way he wagers ( Thread in offshore ) He is mostly a Money line Gambler

    meaning he could be laying $50,000+ to win $10,000 or ( $50K to win $5K ) when betting on Favorites

    But he does seem legit on his gambling

    I am not vouching for anyone, so don't take it that way. Just what i have seen posted in his thread in the Offshore forum

    so like posted by Northern Star

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    For anyone wanting to know my involvement in this... I have 0 (Z E R O) involvement. A few posters who know me personally and have my phone number contacted me early about this, and asked my opinion. I told them flatly that I am not involved, and that if I were them, I would think hard about it. This is a business model that doesnt work. Someone taking all the risk 100%, while giving away 1/2 of the profits?

    It made no sense to me, I stayed away, and anyone who reached out to me I advised them to think really hard about it before jumping in, since I disagreed with how it is set up.

    I gave NO RECOMMENDATIONS, but I did try and steer those that reached out to me away and to really think about it before doing it.

    Someone taking 100% risk and giving up 50% of the profits for free didnt make any sense to me... So, again, I had 0 involvement in this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorbackpicks View Post
    I never did the client deal. I offered to place wagers for him, which is probably even worse, extending what appears to be not a stand up guy, an honest deal out of sympathy. I got nothing out of it, no cut, no percentage nothing. I placed his wager and if I wanted to also play it I could, and did.
    Not smart man.

    He was free rolling. Taking a cut if He won, and hitting the hills of he lost. He was probably betting both sides, so in light, a ponzi scheme. Pay a few out to make it look legit. Anyone offering a refund for losing bets is a red flag
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLTrends View Post
    For anyone wanting to know my involvement in this... I have 0 (Z E R O) involvement. A few posters who know me personally and have my phone number contacted me early about this, and asked my opinion. I told them flatly that I am not involved, and that if I were them, I would think hard about it. This is a business model that doesnt work. Someone taking all the risk 100%, while giving away 1/2 of the profits?

    It made no sense to me, I stayed away, and anyone who reached out to me I advised them to think really hard about it before jumping in, since I disagreed with how it is set up.

    I gave NO RECOMMENDATIONS, but I did try and steer those that reached out to me away and to really think about it before doing it.

    Someone taking 100% risk and giving up 50% of the profits for free didnt make any sense to me... So, again, I had 0 involvement in this!
    Well aside from all of that .... is he the Big Gambler he says he is ?

    and is there a Axe /Man Cave Bar / club in the Works ??
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    That's what I want to know. How do you say your helping him with setting up his man cave and then say you have zero involvement. I don't understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betallsports View Post
    Well aside from all of that .... is he the Big Gambler he says he is ?

    and is there a Axe /Man Cave Bar / club in the Works ??
    Quote Originally Posted by okie77 View Post
    That's what I want to know. How do you say your helping him with setting up his man cave and then say you have zero involvement. I don't understand.
    Exactly....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbet1234 View Post
    Not smart man.

    He was free rolling. Taking a cut if He won, and hitting the hills of he lost. He was probably betting both sides, so in light, a ponzi scheme. Pay a few out to make it look legit. Anyone offering a refund for losing bets is a red flag
    I would love to see the "victims" compare their notes. I wonder if 1 guy would take "team A" and another guy take "team B" on the same game??
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    Page 11 trends tells us exactly what the man cave is all about. He has apparently proxied for people. In several posts he makes it sound like they are tight. Now he just washes his hands of it??
    Something is way off here. Just getting weirder and weirder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie77 View Post
    Page 11 trends tells us exactly what the man cave is all about. He has apparently proxied for people. In several posts he makes it sound like they are tight. Now he just washes his hands of it??
    Something is way off here. Just getting weirder and weirder.
    When I first read that(starting a bar)...I rolled my eyes. Just the fantasies of a gambler on a high during a winning streak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie77 View Post
    Page 11 trends tells us exactly what the man cave is all about. He has apparently proxied for people. In several posts he makes it sound like they are tight. Now he just washes his hands of it??
    Something is way off here. Just getting weirder and weirder.
    Ok... First of all.. I AM helping him set up that business.

    But, what you fail to comprehend is I HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS BETTING SCHEME HE WAS DOING!

    Do you understand that??? ITS BLACK AND WHITE....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodStool View Post
    Exactly....
    And he did gamble thousands, I can attest to that.....

    And MORON... I HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS BETTING SCHEME!! Fucking idiot!!

    How does me putting a completely different business here in Vegas for him... Give me involvement to what he is doing with his betting scheme??

    Did you see me vouch for this betting scheme anywhere? Did you see me promote this betting scheme anywhere?

    No, cause you are a fucking idiot, and just want something to whine about.

    Please... do tell me how I am involved in this betting scheme?? Simply because I know him and did COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS with him? Then there are a LOT of guilty by association people who should be in prison and such for knowing someone. Fucking clueless asshole....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLTrends View Post
    Ok... First of all.. I AM helping him set up that business.

    But, what you fail to comprehend is I HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS BETTING SCHEME HE WAS DOING!

    Do you understand that??? ITS BLACK AND WHITE....

    Jesus fucking Christ
    I don't know you and this might get blow back...but wow is that statement a cop-out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLTrends View Post
    And he did gamble thousands, I can attest to that.....

    And MORON... I HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS BETTING SCHEME!! Fucking idiot!!

    How does me putting a completely different business here in Vegas for him... Give me involvement to what he is doing with his betting scheme??

    Did you see me vouch for this betting scheme anywhere? Did you see me promote this betting scheme anywhere?

    No, cause you are a fucking idiot, and just want something to whine about.

    Please... do tell me how I am involved in this betting scheme?? Simply because I know him and did COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS with him? Then there are a LOT of guilty by association people who should be in prison and such for knowing someone. Fucking clueless asshole....
    Seriously? such a cop-out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLTrends View Post
    And he did gamble thousands, I can attest to that.....

    And MORON... I HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS BETTING SCHEME!! Fucking idiot!!

    How does me putting a completely different business here in Vegas for him... Give me involvement to what he is doing with his betting scheme??

    Did you see me vouch for this betting scheme anywhere? Did you see me promote this betting scheme anywhere?

    No, cause you are a fucking idiot, and just want something to whine about.

    Please... do tell me how I am involved in this betting scheme?? Simply because I know him and did COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS with him? Then there are a LOT of guilty by association people who should be in prison and such for knowing someone. Fucking clueless asshole....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotpizza View Post
    I was asked earlier if I was an investor or booked his action. The answer is no to both. I never got involved nor would I ever in any sense.

    For record keeping purposes and please correct if it is wrong:

    I show the following is owed to posters:

    Razorbackspicks $750
    East Coast Bias $2,500

    If I missed anyone's claims then post it.

    I will add this, those that are owed money and are being silent in hopes of being paid, just come forward. The chances of you getting paid are slim to none. If a guy can't pay someone $750, what makes you think he is going to pay you.

    You are just hurting others by staying silent. Let's face it, we know it's embarrassing, it's hard to give up hope, however at one time or another we have all been stiffed by someone or a book. I can bring up examples where I've been stiffed. Anyone remember Samantha from The Dunes or how about Eddie Hadeed from Royal. We won't even talk about Betonsports. I was stiffed large sums of money, but luckily for me, I was able to get a lot out first.

    So you aren't the first and certainly won't be the last, the point of the matter is if you are getting screwed over, shout it from the rooftop, don't sit like a mouse. Help your fellow brethren avoid the same mistakes.
    +1 and this is what i believe razor was doing. doesnt seem like he really cares about the 750 and certainly doesnt blame anyone but he posted to make others aware of what he had to deal with.
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