Army vs Navy

cloverleaf · Dec 6, 2017

I have always looked forward to watching this game regardless of each team's record. This
year both Army (8-3) and Navy (6-5) have winning records and each will play in a bowl game.
Anyone expecting a passing fest will be disappointed as Army ranks dead last with just 30 ypg
and Navy a tad better with 91 ypg. Where both teams excel is running the ball. Army ranks #1 in
the nation with Navy right behind at #2. Both teams combine for a game average of 715 ypg.
Field goals will probably be at a premium as Army has made just 3 of 7 and Navy 8 of 14 on
the season.

The big difference I see in each team is the schedule they played. Navy's opponents were 84-56
while Army's was 55-76. In my opinion, Navy played a much more difficult schedule including
Central Florida (12-0), Memphis (10-2), Florida Atlantic (10-3), and Notre Dame (9-3). Army's
schedule had only two teams with a winning record (Ohio State 11-2) and North Texas 9-4). For
that reason, I like Navy to win and cover the game. I also think the Under should be given strong
consideration with what amounts to a running clock.

Welcome your comments........................................

Biz · Dec 6, 2017

Games between service academies routinely go under

skins85 · Dec 6, 2017

of all the sporting events i have been to this one is by far the most fun. great tailgates with mutual respect for each side. great traditions and pregame flyovers, truly an event each sports fan should attend. ill be rooting for army even though im originally from Annapolis md. my cousin is a west point grad and i would like to see the commander and chiefs trophy go to the cadets for the first time since 1996.

id say under on the game though. both teams will probably go for it on fourth and short but both teams should know each others offense by now and prevent the big plays in the run game. the clock should run most of the game and i can see it being low scoring.

exploited17 · Dec 6, 2017

Navy for a while dominated this series. Last year though....Army won. Their numbers are pretty equal. But...as you said that can be misleading because of a bit tougher schedule. Don't have a big opinion on this play. Seeing as it is close....I'll take the points

cloverleaf · Dec 6, 2017

exploited17 said:
Navy for a while dominated this series. Last year though....Army won. Their numbers are pretty equal. But...as you said that can be misleading because of a bit tougher schedule. Don't have a big opinion on this play. Seeing as it is close....I'll take the points

Yeah #17, both teams stats are pretty equal. That's why I went to the schedule.

Army's schedule with opponents won/loss record.

Fordham (4-7), Buffalo (6-6), Ohio State (11-2), Tulane (5-7), UTEP (0-12, Rice (1-11),
Eastern Michigan (5-7), Temple (5-7), SMU (7-5), Air Force (5-7), Duke (6-6), N. Texas (9-4)

Navy's schedule with records.

FAU (10-3), Tulane 5-7), Cincinnati (4-8), Tulsa (2-10), Air Force (5-7), Memphis (10-2),
Central Florida (12-0), Temple (5-7), SMU (7-5, Notre Dame (9-3), Houston (7-4)

Common opponents where Air Force, Tulane and Temple.

thekeyman · Dec 6, 2017

Forget the schedules played,forget the records,these games are for military bragging rights,and it don't matter who has the better record.I'm not sure when it was,but i believe one of them had a 1-9 record and won the game.I just wish i checked where they were playing this game,cause i would have gone to philly in a heartbeat ......Navy is 10-0 when playing at Lincoln Financial Field

cloverleaf · Dec 6, 2017

thekeyman said:
Forget the schedules played,forget the records,these games are for military bragging rights,and it don't matter who has the better record.I'm not sure when it was,but i believe one of them had a 1-9 record and won the game.I just wish i checked where they were playing this game,cause i would have gone to philly in a heartbeat ......Navy is 10-0 when playing at Lincoln Financial Field

OK, OK forget schedules, records...why in hell are you tossing out Navy 10-0 at Lincoln Field. Should the forum
FORGET that also.....just asking?

thekeyman · Dec 6, 2017

cloverleaf said:
OK, OK forget schedules, records...why in hell are you tossing out Navy 10-0 at Lincoln Field. Should the forum
FORGET that also.....just asking?

just throwing something out there that some people would like to know,...if you don't like it then just pass it by,...there are people who do follow TRENDS if you know it or not

by the way,you only comment to me when you have something nasty to say,at this stage i don't need it and won't take this any further,...have a good evening

Dexter03 · Dec 6, 2017

cloverleaf said:
OK, OK forget schedules, records...why in hell are you tossing out Navy 10-0 at Lincoln Field. Should the forum
FORGET that also.....just asking?

you say "Welcome your comments..........", then you reply with a fckin dick a$$ response like that. you have an issue that needs to be resolved. change you're attitude.

cloverleaf · Dec 7, 2017

Some interesting UNDER trends.

Army
21-5 last 26 games following a bye week
13-3 last 16 games in December
15-3 last 18 games at a neutral site

Navy
12-1 last 13 games at neutral site as a favorite
13-3 last 16 games in December
16-7 last 23 games following a SU loss

I'm playing the under but wouldn't be surprised if it goes over.

Serbone · Dec 7, 2017

Sagarin SOS:

Navy 66
Army 100

It matters. An allowance horse vs a claimer.

Fadetheplays · Dec 7, 2017

Serbone who had the hardest schedule on that. Thx

sportsfantatic44 · Dec 7, 2017

Suppose to snow/ice in Philly during afternoon. Not a lot maybe an inch or so but could have an impact on field conditions.

Serbone · Dec 8, 2017

Fadetheplays said:
Serbone who had the hardest schedule on that. Thx

Navy had the 66th strongest schedule, Army 100th, that is significant

Lloyd · Dec 9, 2017

Like Navy -3

Serbone · Dec 9, 2017

Lloyd said:
Like Navy -3

Pass on this game in the snow too

Lloyd · Dec 9, 2017

Serbone said:
Pass on this game in the snow too

I changed my mind. Taking the +3 on Army. Weather plays a factor

StevieRay · Dec 9, 2017

Navy can't hold on to soap in shower, how they gonna hold the football in snow!

cloverleaf · Dec 9, 2017

What a game....and in cold weather with snow. God what a stage for our military.

I had Navy and under but after the third quarter I didn't care who won.

Love these kids and the performance they showed the nation.