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  1. #1 Anyone Remember any Champs who were a big Underdog who Actually Won 
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    Ngannou is about-180/200. All the champs I remember being about a 2-1 dog ended up losing. DC vs Jones. Rashad vs Machida. Those two come to mind. Anyone got a big dog who was a champ who won? Thinking about a bet on Ng. It's not the only reason I just think he is gonna win. But the line tells a story.
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    I'm hoping this line is made for the new fans of MMA who don't know that Nagannou has KO some washed up hasbins. Who do not understand how complete a fighter Stipe Miocic is and who he has faught, and he has elite KO power in close quarter fighting also. I parlaied Stipe Miocic with Khabib Nurmagomedov. I expect a huge payday when this is over.

    Everyone is talking about Naganno and calling his hook punches a shovel hook. When i started to learn martail arts in the 80s, I saw the most amazing combination of a shovel hook into a upper cut, the boxer who executed this combo was a real technician in the ring , his name was Mike Tyson. if Cain was healthy this fght would never happen, Naganno would not get past Cain.
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    Cain is a bad matchup for sure. I'm not sure even Can would get in on him though But Miocic stands tall.....doesn't move his head and walks forward. He has less reach than Ngannou and that is a recipe for disaster. He doesn't use his wrestling enough. And Ngannou being the bigger stronger guy will likely shove him off without a setup. The way he will have to set it up is problematic since he doesn't use angles, head movement to get in on a bigger stronger longer guy
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    Woodley was about +160 @ MSG vs Wonderboy in the first fight. Went to a draw based on the scoring in place at the time but under the new scoring he would've won 2 10-8 rds and won that fight.

    Frankie Edgar was a big dog, about +250 in his rematch with BJ Penn. Won easily.

    Nunes was like +160 vs Ronda, easy work.

    All I can think of in recent history for winners.
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    You are right about Edgar. But Penn was atleast a former champ. Rousey and Wonderboy I don't think were quite as high. Mostly around -150 from what I can find. Wouldn't quite count that. Everyone knew Rousey was losing that fight anyway. Only Rousey fans really though she was special. But good info Pats Will be a great final two fights with Cormier/DC and Ngannou/Miocic. One title I think will definitely change hands. I think both dogs are live bets though. Honestly I think I would rather enjoy those final two fights that bet them at this point. Rooting for Stipe and DC. Don't wanna bet against them. Maybe I will change my mind. Got 1 play in mind big for Saturday. If I lose I will probably chase lol
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    Wonderboy was like -200, I bet him at -175 and it closed around -200 fwiw.

    Also in Bellator, Lima is the champ tomorrow night and is +200 vs Rory Macdonald. Can't believe they're gonna put Chael/Rampage on last over that fight, way to bury your real talent for a nostalgia act.
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    Bellator always pulls that garbage. They had Sonnen vs Silva(bum old man steroid fight)at the end. Ahead of all the title fights

    I don't even understand why Sonnen is in the heavyweight tournament. It is ridiculous. He has no shot. He is a middleweight. Juiced up to heavyweight I guess
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    Lima fighting a masterful fight, starting to take control.
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    Lima couldn't stay on his feet, toast now.
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    Miocic dominated the first round
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    2nd too

    Ngannou looks gassed
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    Lame fight but that's HW. It's either someone gets KO'd or someone gasses. Why it hasn't ever been at the forefront of MMA besides Lesnar's short run.

    Props to Stipe, hopefully him/Cain can happen during the summer
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    Lame fight but that's HW. It's either someone gets KO'd or someone gasses. Why it hasn't ever been at the forefront of MMA besides Lesnar's short run.

    Props to Stipe, hopefully him/Cain can happen during the summer
    Who you got in Cain/Stipe?

    But don't you think it should be Cain vs. Ngoneyou? Werdum more deserving .... Cain been sitting on sidelines. Or maybe Cain/Werdum to see who faces Stipe in his next match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RunMaker View Post
    Who you got in Cain/Stipe?

    But don't you think it should be Cain vs. Ngoneyou? Werdum more deserving .... Cain been sitting on sidelines. Or maybe Cain/Werdum to see who faces Stipe in his next match.
    Werdum not that deserving, lost to Overreem recently. His win was over a gatekeeper type.

    If Cain is ready to comeback in the summer time then I think giving him the title shot makes sense. He's the best HW in UFC history along with Stipe and there really isn't a ton of fan enthusiasm for Stipe rematches with Werdum or anyone else.

    Cain hasn't been healthy in like 4-5 years so tough to say, think you gotta favor the fresher, younger, healthier champ right now. Stipe been underrated throughout this entire run.

    Let Ngannou fight Werdum.
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    Just kind of odd ... the guy does nothing (injured, I know) and they just throw him into the title shot. O/c, with the UFC there is reason or logic.

    Honestly, I think a Ngoneyou/Cain matchup makes sense. Would be fantastic.
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    lol, there is NO reason or logic
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    Yeah, under different circumstances you would want him to go through 1-2 guys but the division just sucks. There is no one else for Stipe to fight.

    So if he's gonna fight again in the summer, then it might as well be Cain.

    All the other guys he could fight aren't in the UFC, they chose to play pro football instead because it pays way better. Same reason HW boxing is dead in America.
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    If Cain/DC weren't BFF and Cain wasn't eyeing Stipe then I could see a superfight with DC and Stipe. Neither 1 of them have much to do at their divisions right now and Stipe is on the smaller side for a HW so it would be doable.

    But I doubt DC would step in and take Cain's fight if Cain was ready to go or near ready to go.
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    there is only one right answer Vitaly Minakov
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    Didn't be tit but lost an 8 team parlay on it. FUCK
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