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    Eagles should’ve been called for a false start on the 4th and 1 play they converted in the 4th quarter that they ended up converting. It was clear! Unreal it was missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhawk12 View Post
    Eagles should’ve been called for a false start on the 4th and 1 play they converted in the 4th quarter that they ended up converting. It was clear! Unreal it was missed.
    Why no holding the whole game on either offensive line? That favors NE. Seemed to happen against Jax, too.
    And most every play you could call PI on the DB (or sometimes the WR), they just seem to decide to call it sometimes, sometimes not.
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    no that play looked fine
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    The NFL made sure that 1) for once, NE did not appear to get all the calls, and 2) they would not overturn a bullshit pass reception "surviving the ground" or whatever TF they call it... if they had reversed that Ertz Eagle TD, NFL fans would be talking about it till kickoff in September.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbone View Post
    The NFL made sure that 1) for once, NE did not appear to get all the calls, and 2) they would not overturn a bullshit pass reception "surviving the ground" or whatever TF they call it... if they had reversed that Ertz Eagle TD, NFL fans would be talking about it till kickoff in September.
    Yup, they call it against Pitt helping the Pats win, & now they don't call the same crap & it go against the Pats.......these clowns known as NFL refs don't know WTF a catch is, & I wish they would get rid of video replay, its done more damage than not.
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    I have a problem with the foot outta bound td catch then the ertz catch. Ertz already took several steps before he dove. The outta bounds one, dude was still juggling
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrwho View Post
    I have a problem with the foot outta bound td catch then the ertz catch. Ertz already took several steps before he dove. The outta bounds one, dude was still juggling
    That was not a catch based off of all season long how they called it.

    Ertz was a runner not a receiver, the James play was totally different
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    The flags aren’t thrown much in the SB. They let a lot of things go.

    The Ertz TD was a catch, he took 2-3 Full steps before diving. I thought it was clearly a catch.

    The Clement TD should have been incl based on the rule. The ball was moving before 2 feet down.

    Having said that Philly deserved that game, and I bet the other side
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrwho View Post
    I have a problem with the foot outta bound td catch then the ertz catch. Ertz already took several steps before he dove. The outta bounds one, dude was still juggling
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    Did anyone see Hogan get hammered running downfield on the last Hail Mary play? He got blocked by the db about 30 yards downfield. How is that acceptable? Impossible to miss too. Not saying whether it makes a difference but that no call is laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bank--it View Post
    Did anyone see Hogan get hammered running downfield on the last Hail Mary play? He got blocked by the db about 30 yards downfield. How is that acceptable? Impossible to miss too. Not saying whether it makes a difference but that no call is laughable.
    It's a Hail Mary you gotta be really blatent on those and refs aren't lookin to reward teams who couldn't win without a miracle.
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    So by your logic the Eagles could have jumped offsides and it wouldn’t have been called either.

    You cant hit receivers 30 yards downfield, and since they needed as many bodies near the endzone as possible it matters.
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    The Clement's catch was not a catch, it's not how they ruled all season. It's as if they were afraid to overturn it. There is no way they didn't see the ball moving before the left foot gets down. I haven't seen one person say they expected that call to stand, not based on how they have ruled all season.

    I've changed my position on the Ertz TD, I think it was a catch since the contact came after he took a step or two and not during the process of making a catch. Although I can't help but wonder what Dez Bryant thought about that call.

    The illegal formation? IDK, it is what it is

    But as I stated in another thread, the call I was screaming at was the no call on an obvious and blatant pick that enabled Ertz to get 10 yards open on the 4th down conversion late in the game. You just can't miss that

    There were probably other missed calls, some that may have benefited the Patriots. But the people complaining about the refs and the Patriots after every fucking game should STFU now.


    I also think the Eagles played great, had a great season, and are a worthy and deserving champion. The Patriots have more than their fair share, but it still sucks to lose.
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    Pats were holding receivers all game! They let them play
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    Was a good game to watch without the refs being involved every 3 plays..
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    Im tired of the game always starting late. They need to start at 4pm eastern so those who don't riot can get up easy for work on Monday.
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    I went looking for a video of the Dez Bryant no catch vs the Packers in the playoffs, and I just learned it was the same official that worked the game last night

    Although the replay decision is no longer made by him, he still has to explain it
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    i thought the pick play on the ertz 4th down was pretty obvious missed call. the others are tough. people were saying illegal formation on the 4th and 1 since the receiver was off the line but idk about that. its a call that didnt really effect the play, the eagles had the perfect call so a penalty woulda felt like a patriots bail out. i think all the tds should have stood as they did. i did see the hit 30 yards down the field on the last play, that was pretty blatant.
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    The key issue with Clement's catch is not control of the ball, but you have to look very close. The tip of Clement's left foot clips green turf before he touches the white line after he regains control -- it can only be seen on the one angle from behind, but once you see it in high def it's obvious (those little astroturf rubber bits fly up and it even leaves a mark on the field)
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    There's way more money to be made off a Philly win. And the Clement call was wrong, not a TD. Proving which side the booth was on.
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    Thinking about Peterson going for it on fourth down late in the game, here's what made it such a special play.

    He told his second TE (I think it was the other TE) to simply go out there and block the guy covering Ertz which will leave him wide open for a 1st down catch. If they call the penalty, which they didn't, he punts.

    I think that strategy should be more widely used
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    That character on SNL comes to mind when I see threads like this..."it's always something "
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    There were NO offensive line holding calls, HUGE advantage for NE since the Philly DL is one of the best in the NFL. Think about it. And the Philly OL is better than NE's so it is an advantage, there, too, since Philly OL does not need the help as much as NE does (sorry, Willie).

    I saw tons of holds that they usually call... and sure the NE OL figured out they could get away with it so did even more. That is why there were 74 points scored.

    The NFL decided they would NOT let the Super Bowl be decided by a fru fru reversal of a catch based on the absurd catch rule. And they would NOT let there be long PI calls, another area of controversy. They need to make changes and did not want that to ruin the 7 month period before the season begins again in September.
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    The guard moved on the play. It’s clear as day. If called, which it should’ve been, it’s 4th and 6 and Eagles punt. That was the biggest missed call
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbone View Post
    There were NO offensive line holding calls, HUGE advantage for NE since the Philly DL is one of the best in the NFL. Think about it. And the Philly OL is better than NE's so it is an advantage, there, too, since Philly OL does not need the help as much as NE does (sorry, Willie).

    I saw tons of holds that they usually call... and sure the NE OL figured out they could get away with it so did even more. That is why there were 74 points scored.

    The NFL decided they would NOT let the Super Bowl be decided by a fru fru reversal of a catch based on the absurd catch rule. And they would NOT let there be long PI calls, another area of controversy. They need to make changes and did not want that to ruin the 7 month period before the season begins again in September.
    YES! That's what I've been saying all along! It's uncanny, unreasonable actually how a team that passes so much, empty backfield, old immobile quarterback, playing against a historic front four in terms of sacks (last game vs Jags) trailing most of the game, and not one offensive holding call. This has got to be the greatest O-line in history!! The last 3 and half playoff games not a single holding calling despite trailing most of the time. That being said they did miss the pic on the Ertz catch and the CLEAR contact down the field on the Hail Mary. They also missed the clear Pass interference on the two point convert. The Pats still had 6 to 1 advantage in penalties and a 35 to 5 yard advantage in penalty yards. However the Clement td call was correct because it must be 100% proof to overturn the original call! It's a much higher burden of proof than a court of law, where beyond a reasonable doubt gets a conviction. In the NFL to overturn the original call it must be 100% proof, and it's still debated by NFL officials whether it's a catch or not, therefore it's not 100% clear proof to overturn the original call.

    https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/4/16...-super-bowl-52

    One call that does not get mentioned is Amendola getting stripped well before the whistle. Now I've only seen the play once, but on first review the ball is clearly out well before the whistle. Not 100% sure about this play however.

    As for the illegal formation, it was addressed in another thread, and upon further review it's a non-issue because Jeffery checks in with the sideline official. Watch the reply, as he lines up, he points to the official, (checking in) therefore no illegal formation.
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