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    I haven't done so because I don't understand completely how to calculate units winning and losing. I'm sorry if that sounds stupid.
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    Duke -160 -ML
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdotheodds View Post
    Biz from what I've understood in the past 1unit is equivalent to $100 correct... if not please correct me... if that is the case, I typically don't put $100 on games until I reach $1000 on my account.... my bets at the moment range from $25 to $75. Please explain... at that point how do I place units for that... $75= .75units, $50= .50units, $25= .25units? Is this Correct? If not please inform me.... thanks... and thanks for not coming off as an ass hole and willing to inform me.
    1 unit can be any amount. Some people use $100/unit, others $50, some $25. Others it may be $500. When keeping track of your record by units, the unit amount is irrelevant.

    I'll give you an example of how you should be keeping your records....assuming spread bets are the standard -110 juice.

    Lets say you have the following games:

    Team A +4 (W) Win 1 unit
    Team B -2 (L) Lost -1.1 units
    Team C ML -180 (L) Lost -1.8 units
    Team D ML -180 (W) Win 1 unit
    Team E ML +130 (W) Won 1.3 units
    Team E ML +130 (L) Lost -1 unit

    These games went 3-3 and lost -.6 units. A $100 player lost $60. When you just put down the units won or lost, then each person knows how much they would have won or lost based on their own unit amount. Its just a standard number that is one size fits all. A $50/unit player lost $30.

    Do the same for parlays. If you have a 2 team ML parlay that pays 1.2 for every 1, then the win would be +1.2 and a loss would be -1. The amount wagered is irrelevant. Each player can multiply their standard unit ($100, $50, etc.) by the units won/lost.

    Keep a record for each type of wager. Keep a record for your parlays, keep a record for your ML plays, and keep a record for your spread plays. This will also allow you to see which plays are profitable and which aren't, or if they are all profitable it shows you which ones perform the best.

    When making plays based on ML you must keep a record in units, or it doesn't matter. If I'm 20-10, but my 10 losses were each at -150, I've won only 5 units not 9 units (assuming the standard -110 juice). If you don't keep records like this, then folks have no idea what their bottom line would be......and in this business the bottom line is all that matters.

    There are many people that come on this forum, play ML favorites, and just put down a record with no unit count. Many are clowns just wanting to brag. If you are indeed a serious handicapper and want people on this forum to take you seriously, and I have no reason to believe that you aren't, then I would suggest keeping records as I have suggested.

    You can always PM me if you have any further questions. Good luck with your action.
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    Hey Biz, I sent you a PM bud.
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    Got it.
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    Starting Unit Count Now:
    Nebraska @ Illinois Over 144.0 (-115) -3units
    Houston U @ Temple Houston U -3.0 (-110) -3units
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    Pittsburgh @ Florida State Over 143.0 (-115) -3units
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdotheodds View Post
    Miami Florida -210 -L -210
    Virginia Tech -155
    -W. +100
    Central Florida -210 -W. +100
    Kentucky -190 -W +100
    Auburn -290 - L. -290
    Michigan State -9.0 -L. -110
    Missouri -1.0 -L. -110
    BYU -155 -L. -155
    Florida -165 -L -165
    Villanova @ Xavier Over 164.0 -W. +100
    Middle Tennessee State -150 -W +100
    St. Peter's -165 -L. -165
    Utah U -340 -W. +100

    Overall Record:
    Singles -41 -22
    Parlay - 3-2
    Money line kills

    u go 6-7 but lose over $600 +
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieRay View Post
    Money line kills

    u go 6-7 but lose over $600 +
    This is the reason so many want you to list Units.
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    Yea, now I understand guys. Let me see if I can figure out my unit results since I started posting with these last few games.
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    Start from the beginning with the unit count
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    Starting my record fresh since I'm getting the hang of this unit count, sorry just bare with me, I should have it packed down now thanks to Biz...

    Nebraska @ Illinois Over 144.0 (-115) -3units L -3.45
    Houston U @ Temple Houston U -3.0 (-110) -3units W +3
    Pittsburgh @ Florida State Over 143.0 (-115) -3units W +3

    Record and Unit:
    2-1 +2.55 units
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    New York Islanders +105 -3units
    Minnesota Wild @ NEW YORK ISLANDERS Under 6.0 (-115) -3units
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    Since you weren't inclined to go back and do your record from day 1, I just did it for you. Took maybe 15 minutes.

    I skipped the few parlays you had, you didn't do any calculations and I wasn't going to spend more time doing that. This is just your daily basketball picks. I'm assuming your soccer went 3-0, but I'm not spending time looking up those results because you didn't say W or L on this thread.

    NBA From 2/9 thru 2/16:
    1-2 (-2.25)
    3-0 (+3)
    3-1 (+1.25)
    2-1 (+.9)
    3-0 (+3)
    4-3 (-1.55)
    0-1 (-1.5)
    1-0 (+1)

    Total: 17-8 (+3.85)

    NCAAB same days
    1-0 (+1)
    3-2 (+.05)
    4-0 (+4)
    1-3 (-2.35)
    2-2 (-.35)
    1-0 (+1)
    1-6 (-5.7)
    6-7 (-6.05)
    2-1 (+.85) This day is graded as 1U plays. You play everything as 1U, then all of a sudden you play these for 3U....probably because things aren't going very well.

    Total: 22-23 (-9.1)....-7.4 if we give you 3U for yesterday.

    Combined basketball: 39-31 (-5.25)

    I think I got all of them, if I missed one or 2 its because their are multiple posts for each day. You usually had a summary each day which helped.

    Now do you understand why you need to put down the unit counts with your record?? You did all of that bragging and you have a losing record......and you're 8 games over 50%.

    Here are the RED FLAGS that are the reason many here are skeptical of you:

    1) You refuse to add the unit counts despite multiple requests to do so. Unit count is the foundation of record keeping, and your refusal to honor this one simple request is troublesome.
    2) Calculating units is basic, not understanding how it works is problematic for someone that you want to pay you money for your picks.
    3) Once I showed you how, you want to "start fresh". Sorry, doesn't work that way. You posted the plays, they count.
    4) You all of a sudden jack up your plays to 3U.

    If you were just another poster in the regular forum, most of this wouldn't be so bad. But you come in here, guns blazing with your braggadocio, posting how much your service will cost those interested....without a basic understanding of record keeping.

    My last piece of advice:
    Tone down the rhetoric, keep an up to date record complete with the unit count. You can't come in here with an "aw shucks guys I'm new at this".......then ask people for $1200 bucks.

    For most of us at the RX, it took several years to gain enough credibility for people to purchase our service. I had threads for years, published a blog that had a year full of winners in every sport. It took awhile for folks to trust what I do. Same with many others, XS has also mentioned this. You've been here for 6 months and 100 posts.

    I wish you luck, you seem like a guy that has a lot of energy and ambition. Keeping an honest daily record will go a long ways to gaining credibility. I would suggest going to the regular forums and posting a daily thread. You're really not ready for selling your picks at this point. Once you've established yourself and can show people that you are a winning player, then you can come to Site Promotions and sell your service.

    Good Luck going forward.
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