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Will be interesting to hear everyone's experience.


I had to go to HR today towards the end of the day as a manager and the HR chief accused of me having marijuana/drugs in my locker. I advised them I don't do drugs, will be happy to take a test every day of the week and they asked to check my locker. I happily let them check my locker, my clothes, etc. Of course, I am 100% clean.

There was a massive pot smell emanating from the lockers today and my locker happened to be by the spot, I guess. I smelled it earlier but I don't get in other people's business.

Anyways, they let me finish my shift and said I'm good.



Of course, anything coming from an HR dude or recruiter's mouth is as good as the shit out of a donkey's ass, but whatever.

I can say that there is a basketball American that despises me at work and I'm wondering if he made up some lies to try to get me fired... and maybe HR tried to come at me with this. Unfortunately, I sit right by this guy and he is extremely mentally unstable. He is saying the "N" word in his talk about 100 times a day as well tons of other inappropriate things non-stop. If I said even one of the things he says on an hourly basis, I'd be fired in a second...... But it is what it is; basketball American privilege in the workplace, lol.



Anyways, so I'm wondering if I have anything to worry about or if I should instantly be looking for a new job. If there had not been a massive pot/drug smell by the lockers, I wouldn't even state this question -- the writing would be on the wall. However, I am wondering if they were fabricating an excuse to come at me... and that basketball American is trying to get my fired.



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Upon further reflection I think they'll try to can me. I guess with no proof of anything they couldn't fire me on the spot, but they'll invent something soon.

Of course, I've done nothing wrong, but all work nowadays is "right to work" state kind of scenario.



The HR guy was quite the weasel. Anyways, I'm wondering if they'll use this as a basis for a second accusation ... Well, guess it doesn't matter. They'll do what they do.


Guess the writing is on the wall.
 

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Just got out of basketball practice and read this. On to Plan B.
 

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Upon further reflection I think they'll try to can me. I guess with no proof of anything they couldn't fire me on the spot, but they'll invent something soon.

Of course, I've done nothing wrong, but all work nowadays is "right to work" state kind of scenario.



The HR guy was quite the weasel. Anyways, I'm wondering if they'll use this as a basis for a second accusation ... Well, guess it doesn't matter. They'll do what they do.


Guess the writing is on the wall.

Almost all employment in the US is at-will, meaning they can fire you without cause (provided it's not discriminatory). So I'm not understanding why they would jump through all these hoops to manufacture fake cause that they don't need.

I have been in plenty of rooms when the decision was made to let someone go and not once ever was anything close to "let's plant some weed on him" suggested. I just don't believe it happens.
 

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Harry --


I see what you're saying. That is sound reasoning and logical.

The whole scenario was just preposterous and ridiculous to me. And I can see no foundation for it.

If it was a deal where, 'Hey Jim. Pot smell. By your locker. I know you, man. You're clean. Let's take three minutes and you can get back to work.' Then settle it quickly, shake hands, have a good day. Water off a duck's back.

But it wasn't like that. The HR guy was like a dirty cop even after it was 100% clear it was baseless. I could understand his unease at having to do such a thing, but I don't mind. No sweat. But even after I was cleared he asked some stupid questions and was like a weasel.
 

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As long as you’re happy at what you do, you can do it at another workplace.

My deal is that I’m sick of the drama at my workplace and quitting is quite tempting but I believe no matter where one goes chances are it’s full of drama there as well. No matter how much you try to seclude or avoid it you’ll somehow get sucked right in it.
 

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I guess I'm just paranoid b/c of the basketball American maybe trying to get me fired. They certainly can't fire me based on performance or any other factor, but worried he's trying to sabotage me.
 

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As long as you’re happy at what you do, you can do it at another workplace.

My deal is that I’m sick of the drama at my workplace and quitting is quite tempting but I believe no matter where one goes chances are it’s full of drama there as well. No matter how much you try to seclude or avoid it you’ll somehow get sucked right in it.


Aint that the truth. Problem is I'd rather not make the switch.. the effort, time, logistics, stress, etc. I've learned that there are no friends in the workplace and thus I maintain the standard practice of all those who have been around the block. Kind, courteous, few words and good day.
 

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Actually, thinking about this a little bit, I think it'd be great if they fired me..... IF ..... I can get unemployment. Would be a nice vacation.

What does unemployment pay nowadays? 50% of one's salary for 5 months?
 

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Actually, thinking about this a little bit, I think it'd be great if they fired me..... IF ..... I can get unemployment. Would be a nice vacation.

What does unemployment pay nowadays? 50% of one's salary for 5 months?

odd are if they are trying to get rid of you, they would contest your unemployment claim
 

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odd are if they are trying to get rid of you, they would contest your unemployment claim


How does that work? They could can me for no reason.... and then I get nothing? Honestly, I don't know how all that works.

I know one time I got let go when I was sick with some kind of migraines or something.. and they let me go. And I can't remember the official BS reason they gave me, but they said I could get unemployment and they made me sign a letter saying I wouldn't sue them and they'd give me a severance.


But how can you not get unemployment if they can you and your performance is good and you never miss work?
 

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I mean, I know it's "right to work" state and all that kind of stuff, but what do they tell you when they fire you for no reason?


You know what's odd is that the whole thing was like staged. When I went with the management lady and the HR guy to my locker, we went through all the stuff.... and out of nowhere there were two other supervisors who were just waiting there and gave my locker some extra sniffs. It was almost comical. One manager did a sniff from high to low like a dog raising his sniffing nose up to the top of the locker.
 

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simple, i know someone who was insulted by another co-worker, so the person flipped them off. They were fired for that, and when they filed for unemployment the company fought it and won. they received no unemployment money
 

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They don't have to tell you anything. You probably have a handbook or signed some paper when hired that says you can be history for no reason at any time. Pretty much standard for any non union gig.
 

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They don't have to tell you anything. You probably have a handbook or signed some paper when hired that says you can be history for no reason at any time. Pretty much standard for any non union gig.

As I mentioned previously, I understand that. And I have no problem with that policy. My problem is nefarious means to achieve such a goal. Why go to such lengths? Just let the employee go for no reason at all.


Almost all employment in the US is at-will, meaning they can fire you without cause (provided it's not discriminatory). So I'm not understanding why they would jump through all these hoops to manufacture fake cause that they don't need.

I have been in plenty of rooms when the decision was made to let someone go and not once ever was anything close to "let's plant some weed on him" suggested. I just don't believe it happens.


Getting back to this point.... meh, I think I have to disagree a little. I was in agreement -- and I still agree with you from a manager's perspective -- but unless you've worked in HR, you don't know how low these guys will stoop to get shit done.

For whatever reason they establish a goal; ie, get rid of an employee. Then they look at their options to do so. One of those options is a random drug test. I had that happen to a co-worker years ago and he was toasted. They also do fake claims and case building. To accuse an employee of drug use or whatever is not uncommon. I know they knew I was clean so a drug test for them was pointless.

Again, I don't have a problem with at-will employment. I just don't like false accusations. Anyways, moving beyond that, I don't want unemployment benefits denied b/c of fake BS from HR.
 

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Yeah had a job merge and the new boss and his old suck ass buddies had no seniority they tried everything to get guys fired so they could move up real scumbag people
Random drug test
false accident claims
One time they had a accident at location A and tried to blame someone else but the guy they lied on was at location C
 

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That sucks.


I've kind of accepted this now so I'm at peace. Only concern is I'd like to get my unemployment benefits because some cash is better than zero cash.
 

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I've been fired from one job my entire life and my manager hated me from day one.

She did everything possible to get me canned. I didnt kiss her ass like everyone else. Ive never played the politics game. She would call meetings in the morning and not tell me about it. Then use it against me that I didn't show. That was just tip of the iceberg but in the long run she did me a favor. A year later I was 29 and made $100k. Brought my W2 in and showed the bitch, asking if she wanted to compare.
 

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