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    The winner of this year's Iron Bowl could well end up in the NC game again because it will certainly NOT be Auburn. Auburn is a potential 4 loss team this season. We find out real quick when they open against Washington in Atlanta, a place that Auburn has not played so well of late. As a matter of fact, Auburn has not covered a game in Atlanta since the 2011 Chick Filet Bowl. (0-4)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    The winner of this year's Iron Bowl could well end up in the NC game again because it will certainly NOT be Auburn. Auburn is a potential 4 loss team this season. We find out real quick when they open against Washington in Atlanta, a place that Auburn has not played so well of late. As a matter of fact, Auburn has not covered a game in Atlanta since the 2011 Chick Filet Bowl. (0-4)

    Pooh,

    Those are kind of misleading stats and yes, Auburn is 0-4 ATS in Atlanta since the 2011 Chick Filet Bowl but 2 of those 4 games occured during the 2012 season (1 game was a 17 pt win but have no clue what the spread was), 1 game was vs UGA in last years SEC championship, and the other game was New Years Day where they (according to SEC FAN ) werent even trying.

    The Aub vs Wash matchup should be a homegame for Auburn as i cant see Washington fans showing up for this game (unless they are local or a few hour car ride away). Didnt Washington play Bama in Atlanta during CFP 2 seasons ago? I wonder how their turnout was (i honestly dont know)?

    Here is 1 more fun tidbit for you. Last year's LOSER of the Iron bowl actually made it to the CFP NC game

    (before anyone goes into a tizzy, please let me know if i made just 1 incorrect statement on this post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightrofins View Post
    Pooh,

    Those are kind of misleading stats and yes, Auburn is 0-4 ATS in Atlanta since the 2011 Chick Filet Bowl but 2 of those 4 games occured during the 2012 season (1 game was a 17 pt win but have no clue what the spread was), 1 game was vs UGA in last years SEC championship, and the other game was New Years Day where they (according to SEC FAN ) werent even trying.

    The Aub vs Wash matchup should be a homegame for Auburn as i cant see Washington fans showing up for this game (unless they are local or a few hour car ride away). Didnt Washington play Bama in Atlanta during CFP 2 seasons ago? I wonder how their turnout was (i honestly dont know)?

    Here is 1 more fun tidbit for you. Last year's LOSER of the Iron bowl actually made it to the CFP NC game

    (before anyone goes into a tizzy, please let me know if i made just 1 incorrect statement on this post)

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    Wrong again, but a good try. Auburn was 3-9 in 2012. They played one game in Atlanta, a 26-19 loss to Clemson as a 2 point dog. Stop looking for excuses to defend your position. You have run out of excuses. 0-4 is 0-4. Now if you insist on pushing this point, I will really make you look dumb. Give it up.
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    I’m gonna push the point so please make me look dumb:

    auburn lost to clemson in 2012
    auburn played Missouri in the sec championship in 2013
    auburn played Louisville opening day in 2015
    auburn played Georgia in 2017 sec chanpiomship
    auburn played Ucf in 2018 chick filet bowl

    to my count, that is 5 games. Please explain how they went 0-4. While we’re on the topic, please tell how hurricane Irma didn’t cancel/postpone football games last season and how can a game be played 3 months into the future??
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    Knighttrofins, since you have wasted so much space in my CFB forum...I will turn it over to you
    in the next few days. An extremely SMART person who graduated from Central Florida should be able
    to handle it. For an Attention Whore who loves to ruin others threads...you will have it soon. My last
    week horseshoe so be ready...……………..
    FAKE Sports Championships are like pennies, two-faced and worthless! Sad Central Florida...
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    Well lucky you Kighttrofin...my gang says you are so SMART to let you have this thread.

    You got it Bud! We will start another one.

    Please stay out of our new thread....you have your own now pretty boy.
    FAKE Sports Championships are like pennies, two-faced and worthless! Sad Central Florida...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightrofins View Post
    Pooh,

    Those are kind of misleading stats and yes, Auburn is 0-4 ATS in Atlanta since the 2011 Chick Filet Bowl but 2 of those 4 games occured during the 2012 season (1 game was a 17 pt win but have no clue what the spread was), 1 game was vs UGA in last years SEC championship, and the other game was New Years Day where they (according to SEC FAN ) werent even trying.

    The Aub vs Wash matchup should be a homegame for Auburn as i cant see Washington fans showing up for this game (unless they are local or a few hour car ride away). Didnt Washington play Bama in Atlanta during CFP 2 seasons ago? I wonder how their turnout was (i honestly dont know)?

    Here is 1 more fun tidbit for you. Last year's LOSER of the Iron bowl actually made it to the CFP NC game

    (before anyone goes into a tizzy, please let me know if i made just 1 incorrect statement on this post)

    Have a nice day
    I'm not in a "tizzy" (too old for that) but wasn't last years Auburn/Alabama football game played on November 25th, a regular season SEC football game ? I never understood why that game is referred to as the "Iron Bowl"; I always thought bowl games were post-season games.......(Ah, yes, semantics).

    Question: Are you suggesting that the "LOSER" of (1) "regular season" football game (in any conference) should not be eligible to play in the CFP NC game (like Alabama-ended up doing in 2017). Just wanting to make certain your "tidbit" was all for "fun".

    Further comment: You seem to follow college football with a profound degree of passion. I hope you throw us Old Timers who are trying to supplement our social security checks a few "winners" against the point spread. That is the bottom line of what this Forum is all about.

    You have a nice day as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack Donald View Post
    I'm not in a "tizzy" (too old for that) but wasn't last years Auburn/Alabama football game played on November 25th, a regular season SEC football game ? I never understood why that game is referred to as the "Iron Bowl"; I always thought bowl games were post-season games.......(Ah, yes, semantics).

    Question: Are you suggesting that the "LOSER" of (1) "regular season" football game (in any conference) should not be eligible to play in the CFP NC game (like Alabama-ended up doing in 2017). Just wanting to make certain your "tidbit" was all for "fun".

    Further comment: You seem to follow college football with a profound degree of passion. I hope you throw us Old Timers who are trying to supplement our social security checks a few "winners" against the point spread. That is the bottom line of what this Forum is all about.

    You have a nice day as well.
    Mack,

    Per your question, i am not suggesting that at all. I just like to comment how Alabama didnt win their division last year (brings comical and sometimes sophomoric reactions on this forum haha). I still think that (in any order) Ohio State, USC, and UCF had a legit argument for that 4th spot in the CFP.

    As for the further comment, although i love to cap games, i'm not a strong capper but i do ok. However, i will try to post some plays this season but there are about 10000000 better cappers than me on this forum!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightrofins View Post
    Mack,

    Per your question, i am not suggesting that at all. I just like to comment how Alabama didnt win their division last year (brings comical and sometimes sophomoric reactions on this forum haha). I still think that (in any order) Ohio State, USC, and UCF had a legit argument for that 4th spot in the CFP.

    As for the further comment, although i love to cap games, i'm not a strong capper but i do ok. However, i will try to post some plays this season but there are about 10000000 better cappers than me on this forum!!
    Your honesty is refreshing, but you must grow up and be able to call it like it is. Because of the terribly weak schedules that "Group of 5" teams play, the only way they will ever get into a playoff game is if the playoffs are expanded to 8 teams and their participation is mandated by the NCAA. That is NOT going to happen soon. Certainly not until after the 2025 season. Last year the AAC was 7-13 against Power 5 Conference teams. That is totally and completely unacceptable. Another thing that bothers many people is the fact that both UCF and USF. schools with large undergrad enrollment numbers, have never attempted to join the Big 12 (-2) Conference. Why is that? Does either school qualify academically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    Your honesty is refreshing, but you must grow up and be able to call it like it is. Because of the terribly weak schedules that "Group of 5" teams play, the only way they will ever get into a playoff game is if the playoffs are expanded to 8 teams and their participation is mandated by the NCAA. That is NOT going to happen soon. Certainly not until after the 2025 season. Last year the AAC was 7-13 against Power 5 Conference teams. That is totally and completely unacceptable. Another thing that bothers many people is the fact that both UCF and USF. schools with large undergrad enrollment numbers, have never attempted to join the Big 12 (-2) Conference. Why is that? Does either school qualify academically?
    I dont think 7-13 is actually that bad of a record for a G5 conference vs P5 conference. Curious to see a breakdown of all 20 games as there were some good teams in the conference last year but also some bad ones.

    I've said this before and i'll say this again. What if (big if) UCF runs the table this season? I'm not sure how the voters would leave them out since they'd be on a 25 game (or something like that) winning streak.

    UCF, USF, and many other G5 schools have been trying to upgrade conferences for many years. The problem is, no conference is inviting them in. If it were only that easy.....

    I figured the Big 12 would want to expand to Florida. Plus easier for other sports as well b/c you can play UCF and USF together in a weekend (only a 90 min drive) and get the Florida exposure. An easier approach could be if FSU ever joins the Big 12 (there have been past rumors), then the ACC could take UCF and USF (i still think those 2 are a package deal). The problem is that football is KING. I learned that a few years ago when the Pac 10/12 was thinking of expanding to 16 teams and was going to take Texas. However, they didnt want Kansas (who had dominant hoops program). Thats when i learned that its ONLY about football when it comes to conferences.
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    Let me explain things to you. UCF is a second rate school who has a second rate team that plays in a second rate conference. That is why they will get left out of consideration.

    As far as the school itself is concerned, UCF could not qualify academically to get into the Pac 12 or Big 10 Conference. Not even close. The SEC will not accept any new schools from a state that has an existing SEC School in it. So that leaves the other two. If UCF and USF are serious in trying to join one of those conferences, they are going to have to come up with money. LOTS of money. Now since UCF seems to be nothing more than a glorified JUCO, I seriously doubt that they can come up with that kind of cash. The alum and the community sure will not support them that way. So UCF is stuck until they finally get some financial backing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    Another thing that bothers many people is the fact that both UCF and USF. schools with large undergrad enrollment numbers, have never attempted to join the Big 12 (-2) Conference.
    No, that is not a fact. USF and UCF have been petitioning for years to get into a P5 conference. Just last year Florida state representative Bobby Olszewski with the support of UCF AD Danny White contacted Big 12 Commissioner, Bob Bowlbsy, about joining the Big 12. He was told to go fly a kite - said expansion was no longer on the Big 12 agenda. The Orlando Sentinel have written numerous articles on this topic - I suggest you research for yourself

    Better yet, if you don't know what you are talking about, step away from the keyboard and stop making up crap to justify your agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    Let me explain things to you. UCF is a second rate school who has a second rate team that plays in a second rate conference. That is why they will get left out of consideration.

    As far as the school itself is concerned, UCF could not qualify academically to get into the Pac 12 or Big 10 Conference. Not even close. The SEC will not accept any new schools from a state that has an existing SEC School in it. So that leaves the other two. If UCF and USF are serious in trying to join one of those conferences, they are going to have to come up with money. LOTS of money. Now since UCF seems to be nothing more than a glorified JUCO, I seriously doubt that they can come up with that kind of cash. The alum and the community sure will not support them that way. So UCF is stuck until they finally get some financial backing.
    I am not sure where you are getting your research from but UCF actually ranked in the top 10 last year for student athletes who graduated last year (i believe they were tied for 9th with alabama but i may be mistaken). UCF can qualify academically for any conference, no problem. The money from alums are doing better but keep in mind, the school only started in 1963. We are still young. I have many successful friends who are alums who help as they have been working very diligent to get others to follow.

    Not sure how they are considered a glorified JUCO, but thats probably part of your "ask a valid question to me, me give you a valid answer, then you come in and get all rude with no valid points" bipolar schtick.
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    UCF is NOT a member of the AAU (Association of American Universities) and WOULD NOT be allowed to join the Big 10 or Pac 12 under their new guidelines. These conferences want schools with students who have brains, and obviously UCF does not. Just look at their representative in here. One other thing. In case you have not figured it out, you are not liked by most people in here. Why do you stay? No one will force you out, but it seems a bit strange that someone would continue to remain in a place that he is so clearly unwanted in. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    UCF is NOT a member of the AAU (Association of American Universities) and WOULD NOT be allowed to join the Big 10 or Pac 12 under their new guidelines. These conferences want schools with students who have brains, and obviously UCF does not.
    Being a member of the aau obviously only suits the Pac 12 guidelines when it fits their agenda. If not, why would they have actively pursued Oklahoma and Oklahoma State a few years back?

    Both the pac and big 10 are outstanding academic conferences but lets not go over-board. Might want to rethink your ‘students with brains’ comment because a quarter of the teams in the pac are non-aau members. Several (arizona st, washington state, oregon state) rank behind or are comparable to UCF by both forbes and usnews.

    Furthermore, if you knew anything about the Association of American Universities, you would know membership does not imply academic superiority. It (aau) is a good ole boy network. While highly subjective and not all inclusive, membership is skewed toward research universities with large medical programs (research expenditure being of upmost importance).

    As a result, some of the most prestigious academic institutions in the country are non aau members - Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Wake Forest and Boston College to name a few. On the flip side, some aau members are low on the academic totem pole. Take Oregon and Arizona, both pac and aau members. Oregon is ranked 227 on forbes list of top colleges. Arizona is even worse at 231. Those numbers put both universities below nearly half the schools in the sec (a conference better known for football than brains).
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    Please notice that I said "new" guidelines. I can understand you getting all upset but the fact of the matter is that the SEC, with the exception of Vanderbilt, is not the brightest bulb in the NCAA Conferences lamp. There are 5 Pac 12 Schools and 7 Big 10 schools ranked ahead of every SEC School except Vandy. Do not embarrass yourself by trying to say that the SEC as a whole, is just as smart as the Big 10 or Pac 12, because that just is not true. You have an undefendable position if that is what you think. It also doe NOT change the fact that the Pac 12 and Big 10 are far superior to the SEC when it comes to brain power. You said it yourself. "Oregon and Arizona, both pac and aau members. Oregon is ranked 227 on forbes list of top colleges. Arizona is even worse at 231. Those numbers put both universities below nearly half the schools in the sec (a conference better known for football than brains)." Nearly HALF? Meaning that there are over 7 schools in the SEC that rank worse than the bottom two Pac 12 Schools. Give it up. The next thing that you will be telling me is that whatver University you may have graduated from (if indeed you did graduate) it is better than USC


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadLast View Post
    Being a member of the aau obviously only suits the Pac 12 guidelines when it fits their agenda. If not, why would they have actively pursued Oklahoma and Oklahoma State a few years back?

    Both the pac and big 10 are outstanding academic conferences but lets not go over-board. Might want to rethink your ‘students with brains’ comment because a quarter of the teams in the pac are non-aau members. Several (arizona st, washington state, oregon state) rank behind or are comparable to UCF by both forbes and usnews.

    Furthermore, if you knew anything about the Association of American Universities, you would know membership does not imply academic superiority. It (aau) is a good ole boy network. While highly subjective and not all inclusive, membership is skewed toward research universities with large medical programs (research expenditure being of upmost importance).

    As a result, some of the most prestigious academic institutions in the country are non aau members - Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Wake Forest and Boston College to name a few. On the flip side, some aau members are low on the academic totem pole. Take Oregon and Arizona, both pac and aau members. Oregon is ranked 227 on forbes list of top colleges. Arizona is even worse at 231. Those numbers put both universities below nearly half the schools in the sec (a conference better known for football than brains).
    Try to calm down and relax a little "Pooh", condescension and politics is not the way to go here in a football Forum. We all know that the AAU and Forbes, as clever as they might be, often reeks with politics. (FYI: The RX does have a Political Forum where posters can vent his or her thoughts including the pursuit of academic excellence.

    I recall that you informed the RX posters that you are a graduate of the University of Southern California, the claimant of (11) National Football Championships. Congratulations to you and your Alma Mater. Are you a Member of the American Association of University Women.?
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    I do not believe in Schools claiming National Championships. Talk about politics. The University of Alabama would lose half of their N.C's if we eliminated politics. That is why I really do not believe in that caca. I tend to look at the great teams. The teams that were unquestionably the best in that year. Rule #1. If you were NOT undefeated, you were NOT a great team. No excuses. Then I consider who these teams played, the talent on each undefeated team, the talent on their opponents and other things. The 1972 USC team is a good example. They went undefeated (12-0). The closest game they were in was a 9 point win @ #15 Stanford. They also defeated 5 other Top 20 teams. They outscored their opponents 467 to 134. Their team consisted in part, of players like Pat Hayden, Anthony Davis, Sam Cunningham, Lynn Swan, Charles Anthony and Richard Wood. That is the type of team I consider to be a great team. Their are others from other schools. Here is a rather interesting tidbit that will prove just how little last year's UCF undefeated season really means. In the past 20 seasons, there have been 9 teams that went undefeated and did not win the National Championship. So UCF's accomplishment was really no big deal. Look who they played. How many Top 20 teams did they play?
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