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do I think the employee called the cops because they were black? probably
would she have if they were white? probably not

and this is coming from a guy who rarely if ever thinks things are racist!

so I do not condone what the employee did......but now these 2 guys are saying they feared for their life and were not sure if they would make it home that night? Cmon, you gotta be kidding me.

Again, very rarely do I find things to be racist, but even when they are they gotta lie to make it seem even worse.
 

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do I think the employee called the cops because they were black? probably
would she have if they were white? probably not

and this is coming from a guy who rarely if ever thinks things are racist!

so I do not condone what the employee did......but now these 2 guys are saying they feared for their life and were not sure if they would make it home that night? Cmon, you gotta be kidding me.

Again, very rarely do I find things to be racist, but even when they are they gotta lie to make it seem even worse.
if she was my employee- she would get a raise- i'm trying to run a business- buy something or leave
 

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Whats funny is, in the recorded call with the police, she never mentioned that race... just stating "2 guys who arent buying anything, and refusing to leave". She never gave their race the entire time
 

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do I think the employee called the cops because they were black? probably
would she have if they were white? probably not

and this is coming from a guy who rarely if ever thinks things are racist!

so I do not condone what the employee did......but now these 2 guys are saying they feared for their life and were not sure if they would make it home that night? Cmon, you gotta be kidding me.

Again, very rarely do I find things to be racist, but even when they are they gotta lie to make it seem even worse.

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Don't most businesses have signs that say No Loitering? Paying customers might have wanted to sit where those guys were sitting, but in this day and age you'll never hear things like that mentioned.
 
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WHITE veteran with a service dog kicked out of Starbucks....

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How would the business know he is a veteran ?


Even if they did know.....no offense but more of a reason to call the cops. Might have mental health issues and I say that with all due respect
 

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How would the business know he is a veteran ?


Even if they did know.....no offense but more of a reason to call the cops. Might have mental health issues and I say that with all due respect

Why arent you using this same logic for the black guys that were kicked out?
 
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Why arent you using this same logic for the black guys that were kicked out?

Lol the business are going to know they are black lollol. Paint the blacks a different color?


Sounds like Starbucks has a policy against pets....as most businesses do lol. Not every business is pet friendly for good reason. Because not every pet is friendly and they don't want to be involved in any legal trouble I am sure. Soooooo yeah it would make sense for anyone with a pet walking into a business to be asked to take their pet outside and if they refuse then my guess is the business will refuse to serve them/ call the cops. Standard.
 

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Lol the business are going to know they are black lollol. Paint the blacks a different color?


Sounds like Starbucks has a policy against pets....as most businesses do lol. Not every business is pet friendly for good reason. Because not every pet is friendly and they don't want to be involved in any legal trouble I am sure. Soooooo yeah it would make sense for anyone with a pet walking into a business to be asked to take their pet outside and if they refuse then my guess is the business will refuse to serve them/ call the cops. Standard.

No, talking about you making excuses for Starbucks and how they have rights to kick people out... YET when its a black person, you make no excuses and take the black persons side.

ALSO Service animals are required by law to access to businesses... https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm

Under the ADA, State and local governments, businesses, and nonprofit organizations that serve the public generally must allow service animals to accompany people with disabilities in all areas of the facility where the public is normally allowed to go.

When it is not obvious what service an animal provides, only limited inquiries are allowed. Staff may ask two questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability, and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform. Staff cannot ask about the person’s disability, require medical documentation, require a special identification card or training documentation for the dog, or ask that the dog demonstrate its ability to perform the work or task.
Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing service to people using service animals. When a person who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for example, in a school classroom or at a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by assigning them, if possible, to different locations within the room or different rooms in the facility.
A person with a disability cannot be asked to remove his service animal from the premises unless: (1) the dog is out of control and the handler does not take effective action to control it or (2) the dog is not housebroken. When there is a legitimate reason to ask that a service animal be removed, staff must offer the person with the disability the opportunity to obtain goods or services without the animal’s presence.
Establishments that sell or prepare food must allow service animals in public areas even if state or local health codes prohibit animals on the premises.
People with disabilities who use service animals cannot be isolated from other patrons, treated less favorably than other patrons, or charged fees that are not charged to other patrons without animals. In addition, if a business requires a deposit or fee to be paid by patrons with pets, it must waive the charge for service animals.
If a business such as a hotel normally charges guests for damage that they cause, a customer with a disability may also be charged for damage caused by himself or his service animal.
Staff are not required to provide care or food for a service animal.
 

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Starbucks is a coffee shop. If you go in you should have to buy something if you are going to take up seating for paying customers. Would they have kicked out a homeless guy for sitting on their couches not buying anything....damn straight.

I have no issue with it. If you go in a restaurant you need to order something. Hell....they could have gotten a couple glasses of water at least.
 

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Starbucks had nothing to do with this, it's about stupid behavior by a stupid employee.

But in today's America, DEMOCRATS and their criminal colluding corrupt media want to divide us. They want anger, they sell hate even while falsely accusing their opponants of such, they need a large African American turnout and they need 96% of that vote.

So stupid shit like this becomes national headlines.

It's pathetic really. The puppet masters have to be put out of business
 

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I think the issue was more around the perceived difference in practice. If they don’t want people in there who aren’t buying anything, fine, makes sense. In this case, half the store was filled with people sitting around, using their computers and not buying anything. Those people were white. Two black guys walk in, don’t buy anything, and the police are called moments later.

One patron indicated she had been there for two hours working on her computer and no employee even mentioned anything to her. Another guy was there over an hour without a purchase. If the practice was consistent, no issues. In this case it seemed, if you are white loiter at your liesure, if you are black, we are calling the cops immediately if you don’t buy anything, without even asking you to leave.

The cops are simply doing their job and I would agree with the commissioner in that they did nothing wrong. They get a call of a disturbance, they respond accordingly.
 
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I think the issue was more around the perceived difference in practice. If they don’t want people in there who aren’t buying anything, fine, makes sense. In this case, half the store was filled with people sitting around, using their computers and not buying anything. Those people were white. Two black guys walk in, don’t buy anything, and the police are called moments later.

One patron indicated she had been there for two hours working on her computer and no employee even mentioned anything to her. Another guy was there over an hour without a purchase. If the practice was consistent, no issues. In this case it seemed, if you are white loiter at your liesure, if you are black, we are calling the cops immediately if you don’t buy anything, without even asking you to leave.

The cops are simply doing their job and I would agree with the commissioner in that they did nothing wrong. They get a call of a disturbance, they respond accordingly.

Lmfao. Real talk. Point and case. Didn't know all the details but clearly a common sense issue here. 100000000% agree with everything you said.


It's obvious a few stereotypes came up here.....black people don't buy shit.... and....multiple black people must be in a gang or something
 

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How would the business know he is a veteran ?


Even if they did know.....no offense but more of a reason to call the cops. Might have mental health issues and I say that with all due respect
With all due respect?? Call the cops on a service member because you think they're mentally messed up huh? Respect lol

Dude, you respect the drug dealer on the corner who gets away with it....mad respect yo!
 

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starbucks always seems to have a feel that you can sit there as long as you want. i agree to buy something or leave but the entire atmostphere at a coffee shop is buy a coffee, sit down and spend time here. I can remember sitting and reading a book in a starbucks while my wife shopped at target, i didnt buy a damn thing. nobody came up to me or had a problem. i think this whole story is blown out of proportion but i do think the employee acted wrong. this is a societal issue at this point, nothing to do with starbucks. you hint at racism in any corporate company and this shit is all over the news like the problem is widespread across the country. i live in a small town, even the african american people are saying this shit has gone too far with the media. in pockets of the country this is for sure a problem but keep that shit in your neighborhood because in many other places people are fine and accepted for who they are. no need to shut down 8000 stores to teach lessons which 99% already have learned. it makes people numb to the situation after a while. racial issues are important but for the love of god this is just 1 person acting in a potentially racist way.
 

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No, talking about you making excuses for Starbucks and how they have rights to kick people out... YET when its a black person, you make no excuses and take the black persons side.

ALSO Service animals are required by law to access to businesses... https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm

Under the ADA, State and local governments, businesses, and nonprofit organizations that serve the public generally must allow service animals to accompany people with disabilities in all areas of the facility where the public is normally allowed to go.

When it is not obvious what service an animal provides, only limited inquiries are allowed. Staff may ask two questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability, and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform. Staff cannot ask about the person’s disability, require medical documentation, require a special identification card or training documentation for the dog, or ask that the dog demonstrate its ability to perform the work or task.
Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing service to people using service animals. When a person who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for example, in a school classroom or at a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by assigning them, if possible, to different locations within the room or different rooms in the facility.
A person with a disability cannot be asked to remove his service animal from the premises unless: (1) the dog is out of control and the handler does not take effective action to control it or (2) the dog is not housebroken. When there is a legitimate reason to ask that a service animal be removed, staff must offer the person with the disability the opportunity to obtain goods or services without the animal’s presence.
Establishments that sell or prepare food must allow service animals in public areas even if state or local health codes prohibit animals on the premises.
People with disabilities who use service animals cannot be isolated from other patrons, treated less favorably than other patrons, or charged fees that are not charged to other patrons without animals. In addition, if a business requires a deposit or fee to be paid by patrons with pets, it must waive the charge for service animals.
If a business such as a hotel normally charges guests for damage that they cause, a customer with a disability may also be charged for damage caused by himself or his service animal.
Staff are not required to provide care or food for a service animal.

Everyone just glosses over facts that doesn't fit the narrative! So when a white VETERAN is denied service at a Starbucks, no national media or story, when it should be, the guy is a VETERAN! But when two non purchasing black guys are asked to leave, all hell breaks loose!!
 

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Starbucks has been feeling the pinch of the economy and says it will close 600 stores
which is about 8.5 percent of its 7,100 stores.

In related news, the SOCCER MOM and Gay suicide rate will increase about 8.5%.

FXXX Starbucks..............
 

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