Round Robins - Expected Value

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Are round robins advantageous over straight bets if you have a high win rate? I was curious so I ran some numbers, though I'd share.

Using a 3 team (3x2 RR), all wagers -110, looked at the probability distribution of each result based on binomial distribution given the win rate, and calculated out expected value for straights vs RR.

Not surprisingly, at a 50% win rate straight bets are far preferable. I was surprised to see how bad the RR returns at this win rate though, giving the house 3.5 times the hold on your wager.

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If you are a 53% player at -110, playing round robins take you from a profitable player all the way to giving the house a 6.1% hold.

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I was curious where the breakeven win rate fell. I guess it would be somewhere around 54% but it is actually all the way up at 57%. You have to hit 57%+ of your -110 straight wagers to make a 3x2 RR the preferable bet.

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Food for thought everyone, I found it interesting. Here's the full breakdown:

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If you are a 48% player at -110 and you make a 3x2 RR for $100x3 one hundred times, your expectation is to be down a whopping $7,425 on 30k wagered.

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Confidence interval view.
If you have experienced a 50% win rate over your last 1000 wagers, we can say with 99% confidence that this won't be a long term profitable wager for you.

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Are round robins advantageous over straight bets if you have a high win rate? I was curious so I ran some numbers, though I'd share.

Using a 3 team (3x2 RR), all wagers -110, looked at the probability distribution of each result based on binomial distribution given the win rate, and calculated out expected value for straights vs RR.

Not surprisingly, at a 50% win rate straight bets are far preferable. I was surprised to see how bad the RR returns at this win rate though, giving the house 3.5 times the hold on your wager.

iz3hw3.jpg


If you are a 53% player at -110, playing round robins take you from a profitable player all the way to giving the house a 6.1% hold.

2vamwyo.jpg


I was curious where the breakeven win rate fell. I guess it would be somewhere around 54% but it is actually all the way up at 57%. You have to hit 57%+ of your -110 straight wagers to make a 3x2 RR the preferable bet.

oibti.jpg


Food for thought everyone, I found it interesting. Here's the full breakdown:

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You are on the right idea but your math is wrong. The point where a parlay will pass a straight bet is probably around 53% to 54% range. As the percentage goes up the amount of profits go up significantly.

You are not giving parlays enough for their wins. 3 winning parlay of $110 each would pay more than $780.

If you had a starting bankroll of $1,000. Bet 9.7% of your bankroll on each bet. Hit 57% winners. After 1,500 plays your bankroll would be.......

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Just to give you a little perspective. If your win percentage would decrease by 1% to 56% your bankroll would be about $30,000.

On the flip side if your win percentage was one percent higher at 58% your bankroll would be about $10,000,000. Good luck getting a million dollar bet down.
 

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You are on the right idea but your math is wrong. The point where a parlay will pass a straight bet is probably around 53% to 54% range. As the percentage goes up the amount of profits go up significantly.

You are not giving parlays enough for their wins. 3 winning parlay of $110 each would pay more than $780.

You're right I had to count it as a 110 stake on each parlay, not 100. That does change the breakeven point to 53%.

Still a terrible bet at 50%.

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If you are picking 50 percent you will be losing money no matter what it is just a matter of how fast.

As as your win percentage increases the parlay is a better play.
 

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