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    it's camp season so Rivals puts out a new 2019 player ranking that is heavily influenced by how these kids look against one another in these premier camps. For the first time I can remember there is no QB rated as a 5-star either PRO or DUAL style.

    previous #1 overall player, Crouch, dropped to #5 and CB Derek Stingley takes over the top spot moving up from 7th. No CB has ever been Rivals #1 overall in their final rankings

    #2-3-4 remained the same and soon-to-be Bama commit, Clay Webb, hopped into the top 10.

    UGA commit, Nolan Smith, with big jump to #11, and undecided safety, Daxton Hill gets a 5th star

    Right not there are only 21 5-stars which is rare since it is usually around 31-35

    the biggest droppers of the elite players were Oregon commit, Criddell with Okie commit, WR Arjei Henderson losing a star and dropping from 6th to 27th after some attitude and effort issues showed up in camps

    The overall biggest mover was Ohio St WR recruit, Garrett Wilson, passing 49 other players

    Alabama leads the way with 6 verbals from the Rivals 100 and Clemson surprisingly just ONE right now.

    the new top 10 is:

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    1 Alabama 1876
    2 Oklahoma 1714
    3 Texas A&M 1628
    4 South Carolina 1402
    5 Clemson 1380
    6 Miami (FL) 1303
    7 Florida State 1282
    8 Georgia 1261
    9 Ohio State 1235
    10 Notre Dame 1189
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide View Post
    For the first time I can remember there is no QB rated as a 5-star either PRO or DUAL style.
    According to an article earlier this week, 2011 was the last year Rivals didn't have a 5 star QB. Braxton Miller and Jeff Driskel were the two highest ranked QB's that year.

    Bo Nix (AU commit) is still the highest rated pro QB but he dropped from 34 to 40. Spencer Rattler (OK committ) is rated 35th and the highest rated dual threat QB.
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    yeah Rattler and Nix will be h2h for highest rated QB but unless they have some monster showing at the Rivals 5-star challenge I don't think there will be a 5-star qb this year.

    that 2011 QB class you referenced was pretty poor. The Rivals 100 QB that year were Driskell-Kessler-Wittek-LeMay at PRO and Miller-Hundley-Brissett-Walsh-Frazier at DUAL. You might be the only person who remembers Frazier

    biggest QB mover was South Carolina's kid Ryan Hilinski. Apparently he grew a lot (both height and muscle) in the past year and looked great in 7-on-7 camps. He was MVP of the Los Angeles Rivals camp bumping him from a 3-star to a 4-star and up to #3 pro-style QB. Funny that a kid from Orange, CA did not get a USCw offer until the day he jumps into the Rivals 100 despite camping AT usc for the past 4 years. that's some shitty evaluating....

    "I figured, when I committed to South Carolina, I was solid on that for a month," Hilinksi said when asked if there's a point where he'll end his recruitment entirely. "I'm still solid on that, I love the coaches, love everything they're doing. I think before season, I have to make the decision whether I'm 90-percent right now or I'm 100-percent. I think before season, before our first game, I'll know that. I don't want to have to deal with that during season, having to deal with calls and visits and things like that. Probably before season."
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    Bama's expectation of landing top RB, Trey Sanders, took a big hit today

    The Florida Gators have bumped up their offer to 2018 recruit, Umstead Sanders (yeah, that's his name), from preferred walk-on to full scholarship paving the way for his incredibly talented brother to join them in 2019 class

    He is Bama's #1 target at RB which will be a VERY THIN position after this year when D Harris graduates and N Harris has just 1 year left before the NFL. Bama missed on all their top RB's in the 2018 class so RB is a position of major need in this recruiting year. Ford is off the board (their other big target) and appears Sanders will be Gainesville-bound.

    Sanders leaped over Ford on the new Rivals ratings and is now the #1 RB in the nation and #8 player in the country
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    while the Rivals 100 was updated on Tuesday the Rivals 250 was updated yesterday

    Bama QB recruit, Tagovailoa (Tua's brother), made a big leap from outside the 250 and now sits at 161. He was part of the Elite 11 QB competition

    Alabama leads the nation with 10 commits in the top 250, Oklahoma just one behind with 9

    In Rivals 100 Bama #1 with 6, Oregon and Oklahoma tied #2 with 4 each. Oklahoma have never landed the #1 recruiting class in the nation but have a shot at it this year
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    I read somewhere that Texas A&M has 1 of the top classes coming in for 2019.

    Jimbo was always a strong recruiter
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide View Post
    Bama's expectation of landing top RB, Trey Sanders, took a big hit today

    The Florida Gators have bumped up their offer to 2018 recruit, Umstead Sanders (yeah, that's his name), from preferred walk-on to full scholarship paving the way for his incredibly talented brother to join them in 2019 class

    He is Bama's #1 target at RB which will be a VERY THIN position after this year when D Harris graduates and N Harris has just 1 year left before the NFL. Bama missed on all their top RB's in the 2018 class so RB is a position of major need in this recruiting year. Ford is off the board (their other big target) and appears Sanders will be Gainesville-bound.

    Sanders leaped over Ford on the new Rivals ratings and is now the #1 RB in the nation and #8 player in the country
    From what I understand Umstead Sanders is still coming in as a preferred walk-on. They may give him a scholarship down the road (UF will be about 6 scholarships under the limit by fall - but did just add a JUCO TE, 6'7 255lbs Jacob Krull). I still think his brother goes to Bama regardless of what Umstead does....and who can blame him?

    Jimbo stated at the signing day press conference in Feb that A&M would have a top 5 class in 2019....and he's well on his way.

    Florida sitting strong at #27 on the Rivals rankings (Miss State is 13th). What a joke. Mullen needs to get his shit together or he won't last long. I still can't believe he didn't go after Joe Burrow.
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    I know you guys follow this recruiting aspect of college football with a passion using a microscope and I do realize that successful recruiting usually determines the success or failure of any team in the immediate years ahead.

    What turns me on me the most is when some (2) or (3) star rated recruit or some obscure walk-on evolves and ends-up with all conference (or all-American) honors leading his team to a conference championship or perhaps, now days, a play-off berth; I know it is rare but it does happen, the most recent that comes to mind is Baker Mayfield.......Only in America.

    God, please see that college football stays intact.
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    Mack, ability, size and speed for a kid is one thing. Having 'Heart' is another.

    Some of these highly ranked kids just don't have enough 'Heart' to live up to their rankings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack Donald View Post

    What turns me on me the most is when some (2) or (3) star rated recruit or some obscure walk-on evolves and ends-up with all conference (or all-American) honors leading his team to a conference championship or perhaps, now days, a play-off berth; I know it is rare but it does happen
    no doubt Americans love an underdog but the absolute best predictor for big time college football success is recruiting. For every 2 or 3 stars that shine there are a dozen 4 and 5 stars that flourish. A few years ago I posted the correlation b/w 5-stars and 1st round NFL draft picks and it was absolutely ridiculous. The % of 5-stars, of which there are approximately 33/year, that become 1st round draft picks is astonishing.

    Love the Levi Wallace story, walkon making Bama and winning national title, but I'd still rather more Patrick Surtain Jr's in a recruiting class. But then again I'm a CFB recruiting nerd
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    talk about a BIG commitment ... Texas Tech landed a 7-foot, 355 lb offensive tackle. I've never seen a dude this tall at a power 5 school



    7-foot OT is a Red Raider

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    Dang, can you imagine this kid as a tight end. Don't know if he can run or catch a cold
    but he would be a nightmare for defensive backs if he could.

    These kids are just getting bigger and bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloverleaf View Post
    Dang, can you imagine this kid as a tight end. Don't know if he can run or catch a cold
    but he would be a nightmare for defensive backs if he could.

    These kids are just getting bigger and bigger.
    And faster.....That's the scary part of all this increase in size. I bet they will use him on the defensive line as well to block field goal and extra point attempts.
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    Yep Mack, Walker is the best running back I have ever seen. Big, strong and FAST.
    Bo, was a close second in college. Big, strong and FAST and probably a better athlete
    but not a better college football player.

    Todays players are catching up with the freaks of yesteryear...and I mean NO disrespect
    by freak. I mean GREAT players with size and speed are becoming common these days.
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    Dead Period began yesterday and runs for 1 month while the players do some camping and take a break from the recruiting circuit. The annual Rivals 5-star challenge is this weekend in Atlanta and usually produces a few verbal commits both before the event and during the event. Coaches cannot have f2f contacts with recruits in a dead period but can write and call.


    Clemson, Michigan, and LSU made big strides in June getting a bunch of verbal commits and now sit 3rd /4th /7th. Ohio State and UGA are just outside the top 10 but will be top 5 when it's all over. Bama, Georgia, Clemson, Oklahoma, LSU are your likely top 5 for the 2019 class




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    2 Texas A&M 1863
    3 Clemson 1740
    4 LSU 1716
    5 Oklahoma 1684
    6 Oregon 1678
    7 Michigan 1668
    8 Notre Dame 1613
    9 Mississippi 1566
    10 Florida State 1539


    right now UCLA, Syracuse, and Washington State are the 3 lowest ranked power-5 schools.
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    Ole Miss. Wow!

    Even with all the problems of late surrounding the program, Matt Luke
    is doing a great job getting players to Oxford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloverleaf View Post
    Ole Miss. Wow!

    Even with all the problems of late surrounding the program, Matt Luke
    is doing a great job getting players to Oxford.
    yeah, Moorehead at Miss St doing great job too. He got three 4-stars committed last week including a prime Bama target, Pickering. That week jumped MSU to 14th

    agree on Ole Miss. I expected them to be fighting for last in SEC recruiting with Vandy
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    At this point in time, all of this means nothing. Recruiting is nothing more than an educated crap shoot. USC is never in the top 10 this early in the season but always end up in the Top 5 overall. Most of these kids will not pan out. Some will never see a College Campus. Others will get there, but have their seasons cut short. Drop outs, Academics, and arrests will take out 30-40% of these kids.Clover said that heart plays a lot in the equation. i agree, but remind all of you that brains and common sense also play a lot into the equation and every year, you see less and less of this. This is because College Football is basically a semi-pro exercise now. Today's College "Student-Athlete" is nowhere near as intelligent as the "Student-Athletes" of 10 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    At this point in time, all of this means nothing. Recruiting is nothing more than an educated crap shoot. Most of these kids will not pan out.
    recruiting is nothing but a crap shoot and transfer quarterbacks all suck because they couldn't start for their previous school. Are you sure you actually follow college football at all? jesus what a worthless first week you've put in around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide View Post
    Dead Period began yesterday and runs for 1 month while the players do some camping and take a break from the recruiting circuit. The annual Rivals 5-star challenge is this weekend in Atlanta and usually produces a few verbal commits both before the event and during the event. Coaches cannot have f2f contacts with recruits in a dead period but can write and call.


    Clemson, Michigan, and LSU made big strides in June getting a bunch of verbal commits and now sit 3rd /4th /7th. Ohio State and UGA are just outside the top 10 but will be top 5 when it's all over. Bama, Georgia, Clemson, Oklahoma, LSU are your likely top 5 for the 2019 class




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    2 Texas A&M 1863
    3 Clemson 1740
    4 LSU 1716
    5 Oklahoma 1684
    6 Oregon 1678
    7 Michigan 1668
    8 Notre Dame 1613
    9 Mississippi 1566
    10 Florida State 1539


    right now UCLA, Syracuse, and Washington State are the 3 lowest ranked power-5 schools.
    LSU has a really strange class. Their team ranking is being influenced significantly by their two 5 star commitments. Even with those two their average star ranking is 27th. Eleven of their 18 commitments rank 3 star or lower. I don't see any way they end up top 5. Probably won't end up top 10.

    I agree Ole Miss and Miss State are putting together better than expected classes. But both have high team rankings due to quantity - not quality. Pickering was a huge pick-up for State and could end up the steal of this class if they are able to hold on to him, but there is not a whole lot else to like with either class. 15 of Ole Miss's 19 commitments rank 3 star. 12 of State's 16 commitments rank 3 star or lower. Both schools are in the mid twenties in average star rankings and their team rankings will probably end up in that area when all is said and done.

    As for top 5 this year, bama and Ga will no doubt be two of the teams. Clemson could end up top 5 but have a lot of work to do to make that happen. FSU, Penn State, Ohio State, Oklahoma and even Texas look like better candidates at this time.
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    yeah, MSU and Ole Miss will fall well outside the top 15 when its all over but would not lump them in with LSU. They are still the team to beat for Dean, Thomas, Stingley and Sopsher who are all top-25 players right now. It's a big year for Louisiana recruits and I also think they end up with Devonta Lee and Trey Palmer. I doubt they get all the big 4 (Dean/Stingley/THomas/Sopsher) but if they get two or three of them, plus Lee & Palmer, it's a hell of a class. Louisiana is loaded with high-end talent this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide View Post
    yeah, MSU and Ole Miss will fall well outside the top 15 when its all over but would not lump them in with LSU. They are still the team to beat for Dean, Thomas, Stingley and Sopsher who are all top-25 players right now. It's a big year for Louisiana recruits and I also think they end up with Devonta Lee and Trey Palmer. I doubt they get all the big 4 (Dean/Stingley/THomas/Sopsher) but if they get two or three of them, plus Lee & Palmer, it's a hell of a class. Louisiana is loaded with high-end talent this year
    Valid points. I wasn't grouping LSU with the Miss schools. Just trying to point out how quirky their class is.

    Even if they close with most of the guys you mentioned, it will still be a strange class - especially by their standards. It is not unusual for LSU to sign a Alabama kid or two each year, but this year they are raiding the state for under the radar guys. Flott's commitment to AU was a complete cluster. The staff had no idea he was going to commit and wasted no time cutting ties with him. He's not a bad player but not the kind of talent top schools take this early in the process. Will be interesting to see if his LSU commitment sticks.

    McCallum and Parrish are the other two Alabama kids commited to LSU - both head-scratchers. To the best of my knowledge (you probably have more info on these kids than I do), neither AU or bama has expressed any interest in either.

    Then there is the OL commit from Ga and the corner from Texas. Neither of these kids have an offer from another P5 school. They may end up being great players - just seems strange they would go so far from home for these type kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadLast View Post
    Valid points. I wasn't grouping LSU with the Miss schools. Just trying to point out how quirky their class is.

    Even if they close with most of the guys you mentioned, it will still be a strange class - especially by their standards. It is not unusual for LSU to sign a Alabama kid or two each year, but this year they are raiding the state for under the radar guys. Flott's commitment to AU was a complete cluster. The staff had no idea he was going to commit and wasted no time cutting ties with him. He's not a bad player but not the kind of talent top schools take this early in the process. Will be interesting to see if his LSU commitment sticks.

    McCallum and Parrish are the other two Alabama kids commited to LSU - both head-scratchers. To the best of my knowledge (you probably have more info on these kids than I do), neither AU or bama has expressed any interest in either.

    Then there is the OL commit from Ga and the corner from Texas. Neither of these kids have an offer from another P5 school. They may end up being great players - just seems strange they would go so far from home for these type kids.
    nah, neither of us had an interest in those kids.....LSU just playing it up like they're raiding Bama because LSU been getting so much heat over the Tide talking all of Louisiana's best player. I have to give Eddie O some credit though...this is THE year for LA recruiting and he's in the lead with all the big local kids...see how he closes though

    this is another poor year in Alabama football although stronger than last year's horrible group. This year maybe 15 serious kids and, of those, LSU will have exactly 0 of them. Top 15 will go something like Bama 6, Auburn 5, Tenn 3, and 2 TBD.... top 7 is pretty much decided other than possibility of Tua's brother flipping to Tenn and very off chance that Webb goes Clemson instead of Bama.

    Bama way more interested in flipping Sopsher, Dean and Stingley than they are any of those LSU "gets" out of Alabama. This is a special year for recruits in Louisiana so Eddie should be worrying about locking down his own state and not grabbing Alabama's 20th best HS senior
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    MVP awards were handed out at the Atlanta 5-star challenge

    QB- Bo Nix (aub commit. maybe this is the qb recruit that the barn finally doesn't fuck up?)
    RB-Trey Sanders (not committed...bama's #1 target on offense)
    WR/TE-Trejan Bridges (okie...OU putting together maybe greatest WR class in history)
    OL-Kardell Thomas (lsu commit, #1 ranked guard in nation)
    DL-Kris Bogle (not committed...short list of bama, fla, fsu, miami, aub)
    LB-Bryton Constantine (clemson commit)
    DB-Elias Ricks (2020)

    my bama site posted a pic of Bama commit, Kight, with #1 center in the nation Clay Webb (will choose b/w Bama 90% and Clemson 10%). Keeping in mind that Webb is 6'3" 300lb check out the size of Kight. yikes


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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide View Post
    MVP awards were handed out at the Atlanta 5-star challenge

    QB- Bo Nix (aub commit. maybe this is the qb recruit that the barn finally doesn't fuck up?)
    RB-Trey Sanders (not committed...bama's #1 target on offense)
    WR/TE-Trejan Bridges (okie...OU putting together maybe greatest WR class in history)
    OL-Kardell Thomas (lsu commit, #1 ranked guard in nation)
    DL-Kris Bogle (not committed...short list of bama, fla, fsu, miami, aub)
    LB-Bryton Constantine (clemson commit)
    DB-Elias Ricks (2020)

    my bama site posted a pic of Bama commit, Kight, with #1 center in the nation Clay Webb (will choose b/w Bama 90% and Clemson 10%). Keeping in mind that Webb is 6'3" 300lb check out the size of Kight. yikes


    Need to add Tennessee to Bogle's short list. If he decides to go out of state, wouldn't surprise me if he ended up there.
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