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    2018 college football returning production (as of Jan. 31)

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    Team OFF RET Rk DEF RET Rk TOTAL RET Rk
    Michigan State 92% 3 91% 5 92% 1
    Kansas 91% 4 92% 4 91% 2
    Georgia Southern 85% 12 95% 3 90% 3
    Baylor 93% 2 82% 17 88% 4
    Ball State 84% 16 85% 12 84% 5
    Charlotte 76% 38 90% 6 83% 6
    Liberty 77% 37 85% 11 81% 7
    Mississippi State 82% 19 80% 22 81% 8
    BYU 85% 14 76% 28 81% 9
    UAB 96% 1 65% 63 81% 10
    Duke 82% 20 78% 25 80% 11
    Fresno State 83% 18 74% 39 79% 12
    Michigan 74% 42 83% 15 78% 13
    Nevada 79% 28 78% 26 78% 14
    UL-Monroe 86% 9 70% 44 78% 15
    Kent State 87% 8 68% 51 77% 16
    Wyoming 79% 26 74% 34 77% 17
    Bowling Green 68% 66 85% 13 76% 18
    California 85% 13 68% 52 76% 19
    Notre Dame 54% 98 96% 1 75% 20
    Florida 77% 34 74% 36 75% 21
    Washington 70% 58 81% 20 75% 22
    Old Dominion 72% 49 79% 24 75% 23
    Rice 84% 17 67% 54 75% 24
    Arizona 70% 60 79% 23 75% 25
    Louisiana Tech 73% 44 76% 29 74% 26
    Central Florida 71% 51 76% 30 74% 27
    Clemson 73% 45 75% 32 74% 28
    Middle Tennessee 86% 10 61% 77 74% 29
    North Carolina 77% 33 70% 46 73% 30
    Boston College 81% 23 65% 61 73% 31
    Marshall 65% 75 81% 19 73% 32
    Miami-OH 72% 47 74% 37 73% 33
    Buffalo 82% 21 64% 66 73% 34
    Texas A&M 66% 70 78% 27 72% 35
    Florida Atlantic 53% 103 90% 8 72% 36
    Wake Forest 74% 43 69% 49 72% 37
    Tulsa 77% 35 66% 59 71% 38
    Massachusetts 87% 7 55% 94 71% 39
    Arkansas 76% 39 66% 58 71% 40
    UTEP 71% 52 71% 43 71% 41
    Boise State 54% 101 88% 9 71% 42
    Rutgers 60% 82 81% 18 71% 43
    San Jose State 90% 5 49% 113 70% 44
    North Texas 78% 29 60% 83 69% 45
    SMU 58% 88 80% 21 69% 46
    Auburn 78% 31 61% 80 69% 47
    Miami-FL 68% 67 70% 45 69% 48
    UL-Lafayette 89% 6 48% 116 69% 49
    Kentucky 47% 109 90% 7 69% 50
    South Alabama 79% 24 58% 87 69% 51
    Missouri 70% 54 66% 55 68% 52
    UNLV 70% 59 66% 56 68% 53
    Minnesota 69% 61 66% 60 68% 54
    Texas 79% 27 57% 91 68% 55
    Coastal Carolina 65% 74 70% 47 67% 56
    Pittsburgh 60% 84 75% 33 67% 57
    Oregon 72% 50 63% 72 67% 58
    Oregon State 58% 90 76% 31 67% 59
    Utah State 69% 63 65% 62 67% 60
    Stanford 81% 22 51% 110 66% 61
    Virginia Tech 68% 65 64% 67 66% 62
    Northern Illinois 68% 64 63% 69 66% 63
    Temple 71% 53 61% 82 66% 64
    Hawaii 58% 94 74% 35 66% 65
    New Mexico 64% 77 66% 57 65% 66
    South Carolina 84% 15 47% 119 65% 67
    Tulane 86% 11 44% 123 65% 68
    West Virginia 72% 46 57% 89 65% 69
    Texas State 58% 91 71% 42 65% 70
    Nebraska 59% 87 70% 48 64% 71
    Northwestern 67% 68 61% 79 64% 72
    Kansas State 77% 36 52% 107 64% 73
    Eastern Michigan 43% 118 84% 14 64% 74
    Syracuse 59% 86 68% 53 63% 75
    Texas Tech 31% 127 96% 2 63% 76
    Ole Miss 64% 78 62% 73 63% 77
    Illinois 64% 79 62% 75 63% 78
    Arizona State 78% 30 48% 115 63% 79
    Cincinnati 69% 62 56% 92 63% 80
    Ohio 70% 55 54% 99 62% 81
    New Mexico State 41% 122 83% 16 62% 82
    Arkansas State 66% 73 58% 86 62% 83
    Ohio State 72% 48 51% 109 62% 84
    Air Force 70% 57 53% 103 62% 85
    Maryland 65% 76 58% 88 61% 86
    Connecticut 75% 40 47% 118 61% 87
    Akron 35% 126 87% 10 61% 88
    Utah 58% 89 64% 65 61% 89
    Virginia 50% 106 72% 41 61% 90
    Iowa 67% 69 54% 95 61% 91
    Wisconsin 79% 25 42% 124 60% 92
    Florida State 74% 41 46% 120 60% 93
    San Diego State 57% 95 63% 70 60% 94
    Georgia 66% 71 54% 96 60% 95
    Purdue 77% 32 41% 125 59% 96
    UCLA 45% 111 72% 40 59% 97
    Georgia Tech 66% 72 52% 108 59% 98
    Iowa State 54% 99 62% 74 58% 99
    Toledo 54% 100 62% 76 58% 100
    Western Kentucky 47% 110 69% 50 58% 101
    Army 42% 121 74% 38 58% 102
    Alabama 62% 81 53% 102 58% 103
    Georgia State 60% 85 54% 97 57% 104
    Western Michigan 63% 80 51% 112 57% 105
    East Carolina 55% 96 55% 93 55% 106
    Washington State 49% 108 61% 81 55% 107
    Vanderbilt 58% 92 52% 105 55% 108
    Appalachian State 45% 112 63% 71 54% 109
    Memphis 44% 114 64% 68 54% 110
    Oklahoma 55% 97 52% 106 53% 111
    NC State 70% 56 35% 129 53% 112
    Tennessee 58% 93 48% 117 53% 113
    TCU 44% 116 61% 78 52% 114
    USC 40% 123 65% 64 52% 115
    Penn State 51% 105 53% 101 52% 116
    Troy 44% 117 59% 85 51% 117
    Houston 42% 120 59% 84 51% 118
    Indiana 60% 83 41% 126 51% 119
    Oklahoma State 44% 115 54% 98 49% 120
    Navy 51% 104 46% 121 48% 121
    LSU 39% 124 57% 90 48% 122
    Colorado 44% 113 51% 111 47% 123
    Louisville 54% 102 38% 127 46% 124
    South Florida 38% 125 54% 100 46% 125
    Florida International 50% 107 37% 128 43% 126
    UTSA 28% 128 53% 104 40% 127
    Central Michigan 27% 130 49% 114 38% 128
    Southern Miss 43% 119 30% 130 37% 129
    Colorado State 27% 129 44% 122 35% 130
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    Define "returning production".
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    Define "returning production".
    returning quarterbacks, receivers, and defensive backs carry more heft — to create numbers for offense and defense.


    here is the link ... good info ... https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...ers-experience
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    Thanks, but it is all meaningless because he does NOT take into consideration the players who will be replacing the ones that have left. He has Kansas ranked 2nd, and there are at least 110 teams behind them that could easily defeat them. He has USC at 115 and Penn State at 116, yet those two teams could possibly meet in the Rose Bowl again this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    Thanks, but it is all meaningless because he does NOT take into consideration the players who will be replacing the ones that have left. He has Kansas ranked 2nd, and there are at least 110 teams behind them that could easily defeat them. He has USC at 115 and Penn State at 116, yet those two teams could possibly meet in the Rose Bowl again this season.

    I get what u are saying .... just trying to help out ... GL ty !
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    Bill Connelly is THE MAN but the big surprise, for me, is such a low Offensive Line correlation. I've had great success betting ON week 1-2 teams with 4-5 starting OL returning when matched up against teams with a lot of turnover in front 7
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    This article was printed back in January. I would love to see this article updated 6 months later (after all the injuries/transfers/suspensions, etc).

    As rolltide mentioned, its a good tool regarding OL starters (i would throw in DL as well).

    I think its also a good tool to use in the early weeks for underdogs getting double digits points
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightrofins View Post
    This article was printed back in January. I would love to see this article updated 6 months later (after all the injuries/transfers/suspensions, etc).

    As rolltide mentioned, its a good tool regarding OL starters (i would throw in DL as well).

    I think its also a good tool to use in the early weeks for underdogs getting double digits points
    Are you talking about weeks 1-3, when more non-con games are played than conference games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    Are you talking about weeks 1-3, when more non-con games are played than conference games?
    Correct...However i am not sure if i would use for conference games and i'm not sure how far i'd go into week 3 if it was a team's (who is a DD fav) 3rd game
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    Well, you will have a lot to choose from. There are 29 week 1 games where the favorite is double digits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pooh View Post
    Well, you will have a lot to choose from. There are 29 week 1 games where the favorite is double digits.
    Correct, now lets look at how many of these dogs have a lot of returning starters coming back (especially OL and DL) and are playing teams that dont have a lot of returning starters coming back (especially on OL and DL)
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    I have not checked all of the games, but I think the correct answer will be very close to NONE.
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    Top QB'S in CFB per USA Today
    1. Trace McSorley, Penn State
    2. McKenzie Milton, Central Florida
    3. Ryan Finley, North Carolina State
    4. Will Grier, West Virginia
    5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
    6. Justin Herbert, Oregon
    7. Drew Lock, Missouri
    8. Khalil Tate, Arizona
    9. Jake Fromm, Georgia
    10. Jake Browning, Washington
    FIVE JUST OFF THE LIST
    Jake Bentley, South Carolina
    Alex Hornibrook, Wisconsin
    Kyler Murray, Oklahoma
    Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama
    Clayton Thorson, Northwestern
    Top RB 'S in CFB per USA Today
    1. Bryce Love, Stanford
    2. Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin
    3. David Montgomery, Iowa State
    4. J.K. Dobbins, Ohio State
    5. Justice Hill, Oklahoma State
    6. Rodney Anderson, Oklahoma
    7. Myles Gaskin, Washington
    8. Devin Singletary, Florida Atlantic
    9. Cam Akers, Florida State
    10. D’Andre Swift, Georgia
    FIVE JUST OFF THE LIST
    A.J. Dillon, Boston College
    Damien Harris, Alabama
    Darrell Henderson, Memphis
    Benny Snell, Kentucky
    Juwan Washington, San Diego State
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    Looking over this 2017 Chart of Returning Starters .... 8/10 Top 10 Teams on this chart had improved records in 2017 .... 1/10 had same total wins in both 2016 and 2017 ......ONLY 1 Team had Less Win Total from previous Year ...and that was # 10 Vandy .....

    #1 FIU 2016 win total 4 / 2017 win total 8.........+ 4 wins
    #2 Tcu 2016 win total 6 / 2017 win total 11............+ 5 wins
    #3 Oregon 2016 win total 4 / 2017 win total 7 ........+ 3 wins
    #4 FAU 2016 win total 3 / 2017 win total 11 .........+ 8 wins
    #5 WF 2016 win total 7 / 2017 win total 8 .............+ 1 win
    #6 Texas 2016 win total 5 / 2017 win total 7 ......+ 2 wins
    #7 Kentucky 2016 win total 7 / 2017 stayed same 7 ........... Even
    #8 South Carolina 2016 win total 6 / 2017 win total 9 ..........+ 3 wins
    #9 Georgia 2016 win total 8 / 2017 win total 13 .............+ 5 wins
    #10 Vandy 2016 win total 6 / 2017 win total 5 ..............MINUS - 1 win


    OFF % RET Rk Proj. PPG change (Off) DEF % RET Rk Proj. PPG change (Def) % RET Rk
    FIU 85% 14 2.9 85% 6 -3.6 85% 1
    TCU 92% 5 3.3 77% 23 -2.2 85% 2
    Oregon 76% 37 2.3 91% 3 -4.6 84% 3
    FAU 91% 8 3.3 76% 27 -2.1 83% 4
    Wake Forest 97% 1 3.4 69% 49 -0.9 83% 5
    Texas 84% 15 2.9 80% 12 -2.8 82% 6
    Kentucky 87% 12 3.1 76% 25 -2.1 81% 7
    S. Carolina 91% 7 3.3 72% 44 -1.3 81% 8
    Georgia 77% 35 2.4 85% 5 -3.6 81% 9
    Vanderbilt 94% 3 3.4 68% 59 -0.6 81% 10
    Tulane 81% 20 2.7 80% 14 -2.7 80% 11
    EMU 92% 6 3.3 69% 52 -0.8 80% 12
    Indiana 63% 67 0.8 96% 1 -5.4 79% 13
    Colorado St. 84% 16 2.9 74% 34 -1.7 79% 14
    UMass 74% 41 2.1 84% 7 -3.4 79% 15
    Miami (OH) 82% 18 2.8 75% 31 -2 79% 16
    Syracuse 64% 64 1 93% 2 -5 79% 17
    UTSA 81% 19 2.7 74% 33 -1.8 78% 18
    SMU 94% 2 3.4 59% 81 0.9 77% 19
    App. St. 80% 23 2.7 72% 43 -1.3 76% 20
    Iowa St. 86% 13 3.1 65% 66 0 75% 21
    Stanford 76% 38 2.3 74% 36 -1.7 75% 22
    Arizona 70% 47 1.7 79% 16 -2.6 75% 23
    Troy 93% 4 3.4 56% 98 1.6 74% 24
    Virginia 64% 62 1 84% 8 -3.4 74% 25
    USF 71% 46 1.8 77% 21 -2.2 74% 26
    Penn St. 79% 26 2.6 68% 55 -0.6 74% 27
    ULM 79% 28 2.5 67% 63 -0.5 73% 28
    Ga. Tech 62% 70 0.7 82% 10 -3.2 72% 29
    Northwestern 67% 55 1.3 77% 22 -2.2 72% 30
    Missouri 89% 10 3.2 54% 102 1.9 72% 31
    BGSU 74% 42 2.1 69% 53 -0.8 71% 32
    Nevada 61% 73 0.5 81% 11 -2.9 71% 33
    NC St. 83% 17 2.9 58% 90 1.1 71% 34
    Arizona St. 72% 45 1.9 70% 48 -0.9 71% 35
    Kansas St. 79% 24 2.6 61% 77 0.6 70% 36
    Army 66% 56 1.2 74% 35 -1.7 70% 37
    NMSU 57% 87 0 83% 9 -3.2 70% 38
    Florida St. 60% 79 0.4 80% 13 -2.8 70% 39
    Oregon St. 77% 36 2.3 63% 70 0.2 70% 40
    MTSU 81% 22 2.7 59% 83 0.9 70% 41
    BC 67% 53 1.4 72% 42 -1.3 69% 42
    Wash. St. 67% 54 1.4 72% 41 -1.3 69% 43
    Memphis 87% 11 3.1 51% 109 2.5 69% 44
    Louisville 58% 84 0.1 80% 15 -2.7 69% 45
    Rutgers 60% 76 0.4 76% 29 -2 68% 46
    Texas St. 68% 51 1.4 68% 58 -0.6 68% 47
    Duke 79% 25 2.6 55% 100 1.6 67% 48
    Oklahoma St. 78% 30 2.5 56% 97 1.5 67% 49
    Florida 81% 21 2.7 53% 103 2 67% 50
    CMU 60% 78 0.4 74% 37 -1.7 67% 51
    Wisconsin 66% 58 1.2 68% 56 -0.6 67% 52
    Cincinnati 70% 48 1.7 64% 68 0.1 67% 53
    Oklahoma 60% 77 0.4 73% 40 -1.6 67% 54
    SDSU 79% 27 2.6 53% 104 2 66% 55
    Auburn 72% 43 1.9 60% 79 0.8 66% 56
    Wyoming 45% 103 -2.1 87% 4 -4 66% 57
    Utah St. 76% 39 2.3 56% 94 1.4 66% 58
    North Texas 63% 65 0.8 69% 54 -0.8 66% 59
    Rice 53% 92 -0.6 78% 19 -2.5 66% 60
    UNLV 90% 9 3.2 41% 117 4.2 66% 61
    Purdue 55% 89 -0.3 76% 30 -2 66% 62
    Miss. St. 72% 44 1.9 59% 85 0.9 65% 63
    Ark. St. 78% 29 2.5 50% 111 2.5 64% 64
    UTEP 57% 86 0 71% 46 -1.1 64% 65
    Georgia St. 65% 59 1.2 62% 72 0.3 64% 66
    Marshall 50% 96 -1.1 76% 26 -2.1 63% 67
    SJSU 51% 95 -1.1 76% 28 -2.1 63% 68
    Ball St. 65% 60 1.1 62% 74 0.4 63% 69
    Washington 75% 40 2.2 50% 110 2.5 63% 70
    USC 58% 82 0.2 67% 61 -0.6 63% 71
    Ohio St. 68% 50 1.5 57% 92 1.3 63% 72
    Alabama 64% 61 1 59% 84 0.9 62% 73
    Texas Tech 62% 69 0.8 59% 82 0.9 61% 74
    Charlotte 63% 66 0.8 59% 86 1 61% 75
    So. Miss 61% 72 0.6 60% 80 0.8 61% 76
    ODU 51% 94 -1 69% 51 -0.8 60% 77
    Hawaii 64% 63 1 56% 99 1.6 60% 78
    Buffalo 47% 98 -1.7 71% 45 -1.2 59% 79
    Fresno St. 77% 34 2.4 40% 121 4.5 58% 80
    Toledo 68% 52 1.4 49% 113 2.8 58% 81
    California 38% 111 -3.6 78% 18 -2.5 58% 82
    Kansas 78% 31 2.4 38% 122 4.8 58% 83
    UCF 78% 32 2.4 38% 123 4.8 58% 84
    Maryland 38% 110 -3.5 77% 24 -2.1 57% 85
    Notre Dame 58% 83 0.2 56% 96 1.5 57% 86
    Temple 58% 85 0.1 56% 95 1.5 57% 87
    UConn 60% 75 0.5 53% 105 2 57% 88
    Akron 63% 68 0.8 51% 108 2.4 57% 89
    Arkansas 55% 91 -0.4 58% 89 1.1 57% 90
    Minnesota 45% 102 -2 68% 60 -0.6 57% 91
    Va. Tech 34% 119 -4.5 79% 17 -2.5 56% 92
    Baylor 45% 104 -2.2 67% 62 -0.5 56% 93
    NIU 38% 112 -3.6 74% 39 -1.6 56% 94
    Boise St. 60% 74 0.5 50% 112 2.6 55% 95
    Houston 51% 93 -0.9 58% 91 1.1 55% 96
    UL-Laf. 40% 108 -3.2 69% 50 -0.9 54% 97
    Kent St. 62% 71 0.6 47% 114 3.1 54% 98
    UCLA 68% 49 1.5 40% 120 4.5 54% 99
    WKU 46% 101 -1.9 62% 75 0.4 54% 100
    Ohio 41% 107 -3 67% 64 -0.5 54% 101
    Colorado 77% 33 2.4 29% 126 6.6 53% 102
    Navy 32% 122 -5 74% 38 -1.7 53% 103
    S. Alabama 46% 100 -1.9 58% 88 1.1 52% 104
    Tulsa 29% 124 -5.6 75% 32 -1.9 52% 105
    BYU 34% 118 -4.4 70% 47 -0.9 52% 106
    Texas A&M 39% 109 -3.3 64% 67 0 52% 107
    Illinois 50% 97 -1.2 53% 106 2 51% 108
    Tennessee 42% 106 -2.8 61% 78 0.6 51% 109
    Ole Miss 37% 115 -3.8 63% 71 0.2 50% 110
    LSU 59% 80 0.3 40% 119 4.4 50% 111
    Idaho 56% 88 -0.2 43% 116 3.8 50% 112
    ECU 37% 113 -3.7 61% 76 0.5 49% 113
    New Mexico 66% 57 1.2 33% 125 5.8 49% 114
    Utah 59% 81 0.3 37% 124 4.9 48% 115
    Coastal Caro. 55% 90 -0.3 41% 118 4.3 48% 116
    Clemson 32% 121 -4.8 62% 73 0.4 47% 117
    Iowa 27% 125 -6.2 68% 57 -0.6 47% 118
    WMU 15% 129 -9.5 78% 20 -2.4 46% 119
    Miami 37% 114 -3.7 55% 101 1.7 46% 120
    Ga. Southern 35% 117 -4.2 57% 93 1.3 46% 121
    Nebraska 26% 127 -6.3 65% 65 -0.1 46% 122
    Pittsburgh 44% 105 -2.3 44% 115 3.7 44% 123
    Mich. St. 35% 116 -4.2 52% 107 2.2 44% 124
    La. Tech 26% 126 -6.3 59% 87 1 43% 125
    N. Carolina 19% 128 -8.4 64% 69 0.1 41% 126
    Michigan 46% 99 -1.8 22% 128 7.9 34% 127
    WVU 30% 123 -5.3 25% 127 7.2 28% 128
    Air Force 33% 120 -4.7 18% 129 8.6 25% 129




    This Years Top 10 .... I'm on a bunch of these already ...as far as over in win totals ... pretty happy

    MSU
    Kansas
    Ga Southern
    Baylor
    Ball St
    Charlotte
    Liberty
    Miss St
    Byu
    Uab
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