Rudy Giuliani Did Some Extremely Bad Lawyering in Defense of the Trump-Cohen Tape

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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a22546192/rudy-giuliani-trump-cohen-tape-worse-versions-mafia/ Rudy Giuliani Did Some Extremely Bad Lawyering in Defense of the Trump-Cohen Tape

There were worse versions! It's not as bad as a mafia tape!

By Jack Holmes Jul 25, 2018

It's time for another reading from the Chronicles of Presidential Lawyering. For a long time, the protagonist of the tale was Michael Cohen. Even before he could be heard discussing Playboy-model playoffs with the future president on tapes he recorded of his conversations with his own client, Cohen was regularly making a mess. But there's a new hero these days, and we're not talking about Martha's Vineyard pariah Alan Dershowitz.
Former New York Mayor and current aggravated tortoise in a suit-shell Rudy Giuliani has been tapped as President Trump's public-facing lawyer in the Russia probe—and, it seems, the president's growing list of porn-star- and Playboy-model-hush-money deals. Rudy joined Fox News Tuesday night to try to douse the flames of the Trump-Cohen tape that dropped on CNN shortly before. It was not a roaring success.

It doesn't seem like a good idea to suggest there are worse versions of the bad tape, even in some convoluted attempt to suggest the tape was deceptively edited. Giuliani was not particularly articulate in his phoned-in excuse-making, and the takeaway for the viewer was mostly that there are probably more bad tapes out there. Which, by recent revelations—which hold federal prosecutors have obtained 12 Cohen tapes in total—is a decent assumption.
There's also this:
You then make believe it says something it doesn't say.​
This, from the same Rudy Giuliani who, in the lead-up to the tape's release—having heard it himself—lied outright and said it was Michael Cohen who used the word "cash." Somehow, Giuliani maintained in last night's interview that Trump didn't know about the payment.
But Rudy wasn't done. No, sir. Having left viewers with the lasting impression that, look, there are a bunch of bad tapes out there, he went on to explain that, look, the President of the United States isn't as bad as the mafia.

It's almost a waste of time at this point to point out that our expectations for the leader of our nation have maybe been lowered a bit. Not John Gotti is not the traditional bar for the president, but then again, the bar now sits somewhere in the earth's crust. Guiliani's take was even more piquant because there actually was plenty of mafiaspeak flying on the Trump-Cohen tape, particularly when Cohen told The Boss, "I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David." Our Friend, with The Thing.
Of course, this all took place on Fox News, so no one batted an eye when the president's lawyer suggested this isn't the worst possible tape of the president, or that the tape we have isn't as bad as you'd hear from people involved in organized crime. In a normal country, this might be seen as bad lawyering in the court of public opinion. But in ours, this was normal. In a nation that has plunged down the rabbit hole into the rollicking depths of unreality, maybe it is.
 

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But,but,but,but....

Fake news
 

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TWO fake news threads about this Cohen bullshit in the last 15m.

What a joke.

Loser!@#0

He's miserable Joe.

He's a HATER plain & simple.

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Just reported that government just seized 100 more tapes from Cohen.


SJ AND GB:

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this is what happens when you lose everyday of your life, while the man you absolutely despise keeps on WINNING

you become unhinged, watching the Trump Derangement Syndrome destroy people is very entertaining

they become dumber and dumber, as they drift further off into the abyss

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You oughta show a picture of YOUR head up Twittler's ass, and HIS head up Putin's. Gonna go down to Virginia to lend support to Manafort and congratulate him when he's acquited, Witless?:hahahahahLoser!@#0:103631605popcorn-eatinggif:pointer:
 

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100 more tapes :hahahahah:hahahahah:hahahahah:hahahahah:hahahahah:hahahahah:hahahahah:hahahahah
 

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Liberal Timeline and match it up with what the sheep are in hysterics about:

Trump grabbed a woman by her pussy with her consent - Nothing happened
Trump said that some people coming from Mexico are murderers, drug dealers and rapists - Nothing happened
Trump raped a little girl! - Nothing happened
Trump University! - Lawsuit settled, Nothing happened
Trump doesnt pay taxes - Rachel Maddow explained that one haha - and Nothing happened
Trump is racist! - Nothing happened
Trump colluded with Russia to win the election - Nothing happened
Trump had an affair with a porn star! - Nothing happened
Trumps closest people wore wires and they are flipping on him - Nothing happened
Trumps tax plan is going to kill the economy! - Nothing happened
Trump is going to start WW3 with N Korea - Nothing happened
Trump still had that affair with a porn star! - Nothing happened
Trump and Russia are colluding still! - Nothing happened
Trump and the porn star again! - Nothing happened
Trump and Russia!! - Nothing happened
Trump is putting children in cages! - Nothing happened
Trumps Supreme Court pick is (Insert "card" here) - Nothing happened
Trump and Porn Star! - Nothing happened
Trump and Russia! - Nothing happened
Trumps lawyer recorded him saying to pay by check and leave a paper trail - More than likely (Survey says!!) Nothing will happen!

How long till we go back to the porn star or Russia? A day or 2?

Or are we stuck on Left wing biased Cohen opinion pieces for the next few days, till there is something new, or a rehash of the same things?
 

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Benghazi: 4 year investigation, 0 indictments, let alone convictions or guilty pleas.

Clinton emails: 2 year investigation, 0 indictments. let alone convictions or guilty pleas.


Mueller investigation: 16 MONTHS, 35 indictments plus the red head slut, who was not officially indicted by Mueller,and Cohen is obviously "on deck." WITCH HUNT MY ASS.

For clarity: 35 witches have been indicted. 4 witches are cooperating. 5 witches have plead GUILTY. :hahahahahLoser!@#0:103631605popcorn-eatinggif:pointer:
 

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Benghazi: 4 year investigation, 0 indictments, let alone convictions or guilty pleas.

Clinton emails: 2 year investigation, 0 indictments. let alone convictions or guilty pleas.


Mueller investigation: 16 MONTHS, 35 indictments plus the red head slut, who was not officially indicted by Mueller,and Cohen is obviously "on deck." WITCH HUNT MY ASS.

For clarity: 35 witches have been indicted. 4 witches are cooperating. 5 witches have plead GUILTY. :hahahahahLoser!@#0:103631605popcorn-eatinggif:pointer:

Which of those on Trumps Admin have been indicted for "Russian Interference/Collusion/Meddling"?

You do realize this is a broad investigation right? And they are charging anyone with anything (Well, anyone but Democrats who did the same thing, like Podesta)... BUT the others were strictly investigations into that one thing, nothing broad about it.
 

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Witch Hunt by the Deep State Ass. Yeah like as if that’s some kind of fair witch hunt. Game is up. Fuck off
 

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Benghazi: 4 year investigation, 0 indictments, let alone convictions or guilty pleas.

Clinton emails: 2 year investigation, 0 indictments. let alone convictions or guilty pleas.


Mueller investigation: 16 MONTHS, 35 indictments plus the red head slut, who was not officially indicted by Mueller,and Cohen is obviously "on deck." WITCH HUNT MY ASS.

For clarity: 35 witches have been indicted. 4 witches are cooperating. 5 witches have plead GUILTY. :hahahahahLoser!@#0:103631605popcorn-eatinggif:pointer:

Dude doesn't even know what a Special Prosecutor is, how pathetic is that? I mean he can't even crawl and he thinks he can run. just dumber than dumb,.

He's proud Obama lied about Benghazi, or is he so fucking stupid he actually thinks Benghazi was the result of a YouTube video? That's not a rhetorical question, he can't be that stupid, can he? Now that is a rhetorical question. Looks like a good ole fashioned catch 22. PS: No special prosecutor appointed

He's proud Hillary destroyed the evidence, and witnesses pleaded the 5th or said I don't recall thousands of times. PS: No special prosecutor appointed

In just a few short lines, he proved how incredibly stupid one man can be and why he's not worthy of intellectual dialogue, only mocking and laughing at such a fool is appropriate



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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/poli...-trump-june-2016-meeting-knowledge/index.html

Ya don't say?Shush()*

[h=1]Cohen claims Trump knew in advance of 2016 Trump Tower meeting[/h]

By Jim Sciutto, Carl Bernstein and Marshall Cohen, CNN
Updated 9:09 PM ET, Thu July 26, 2018










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(CNN)Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, claims that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton, sources with knowledge tell CNN. Cohen is willing to make that assertion to special counsel Robert Mueller, the sources said.
Cohen's claim would contradict repeated denials by Trump, Donald Trump Jr., their lawyers and other administration officials who have said that the President knew nothing about the Trump Tower meeting until he was approached about it by The New York Times in July 2017.
Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources.
Michael Cohen tape leak could complicate his legal troubles
Michael Cohen tape leak could complicate his legal troubles
To be clear, these sources said Cohen does not have evidence, such as audio recordings, to corroborate his claim, but he is willing to attest to his account.

Cohen privately testified last year to two Congressional committees investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election. A source familiar with Cohen's House testimony said he did not testify that Trump had advance knowledge. Cohen's claims weren't mentioned in separate reports issued by Republicans and Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee.
Contacted by CNN, one of Cohen's attorneys, Lanny Davis, declined to comment.
Rudy Giuliani, the President's attorney, said of Cohen, "He's certainly a source that is not credible."
WSJ: Top Trump Organization official subpoenaed to testify in Michael Cohen probe
WSJ: Top Trump Organization official subpoenaed to testify in Michael Cohen probe
"Donald Trump Jr. has been professional and responsible throughout the Mueller and Congressional investigations," said Alan Futerfas, an attorney for Donald Trump Jr. "We are very confident of the accuracy and reliability of the information that has been provided by Mr. Trump, Jr., and on his behalf."
According to people who have discussed the matter with Cohen, he has expressed hope that this claim about the Trump Tower meeting will help him reach out to Mueller and possibly lessen his legal troubles. He's under scrutiny by federal prosecutors in Manhattan after Mueller referred Cohen's case to them.
The June 2016 meeting was arranged after a publicist who knew Trump Jr. told him in emails -- in no uncertain terms -- that a senior Russian official "offered to provide the Trump campaign" with damaging information about Clinton, and that the outreach was "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." At the time, the Russian operation to covertly boost Trump's candidacy wasn't publicly known. Trump. Jr. responded, "if it's what you say, I love it," and started to arrange the meeting.
The night Michael Cohen went to war with Donald Trump
The night Michael Cohen went to war with Donald Trump
At the meeting, Trump Jr. was joined by his brother-in-law Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chairman at the time. There were four Russians in the room, including a lawyer with Kremlin ties, a businessman who worked for an oligarch and a lobbyist with old KGB connections.
After news of the meeting broke in July 2017, the Trump team offered misleading explanations and changed their story several times. But one claim stayed consistent: that Trump had no knowledge of the meeting beforehand, wasn't told about it afterward and first learned about it one year later.
Those denials were repeatedly issued by Trump, his attorney Jay Sekulow, Trump Jr., Futerfas and White House press secretary Sarah Sanders. Those people denied that Trump had contemporaneous knowledge of the meeting on more than 15 occasions, according to CNN's analysis.
Exclusive: CNN obtains secret Trump-Cohen tape
Exclusive: CNN obtains secret Trump-Cohen tape
Trump said on July 12, 2017, that he "only heard about it two or three days ago." One week later, Trump repeated that he "didn't know anything about the meeting" because "nobody told me" about it.
Around that same time, CNN's Jake Tapper asked Sekulow to confirm Trump's claims that he only recently learned about the controversial meeting. Sekulow's response: "Yes, I swear."
But perhaps the highest-stakes denial was given by Trump Jr. in his testimony last year to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"He wasn't aware of it," Trump Jr. told lawmakers, referring to his father's knowledge of the meeting. "And, frankly, by the time anyone was aware of it, which was summer of this year, as I stated earlier, I wouldn't have wanted to get him involved in it because it had nothing to do with him."
Michael Cohen sent up flares, but Trump never came to help
Michael Cohen sent up flares, but Trump never came to help
Trump's critics have long doubted these denials. They point to a series of phone calls Trump Jr. made to a blocked phone number before and after the meeting. They also note that two days before the meeting, Trump mysteriously announced plans to give a "major speech" about Clinton's scandals. Trump Jr. says he didn't get any dirt at the meeting -- and the speech never happened.
Even Steve Bannon, the former White House chief strategist and top Trump campaign official, said the meeting was "treasonous" and speculated that "the chance that Don Jr. did not walk these (Russians) up to his father's office on the twenty-sixth floor is zero." Trump Jr. has denied Bannon's allegation. Bannon's comments, to author Michael Wolff for his book "Fire and Fury," triggered the bitter public divorce between Bannon and Trump in early 2018.
Axios reported that Bannon does not have first-hand knowledge about whether Trump Jr. told his father, and Bannon later said his "treasonous" remark was directed at Manafort and not Trump Jr.
 

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