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[h=1]White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners[/h]
[h=2]Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.[/h]By Jennifer Williams@jenn_ruthjennifer@vox.com Oct 2, 2017, 11:30am EDT


When President Donald Trump signed his since-revised executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, he claimed it was to protect Americans from “radical Islamic terrorists.”
“We don’t want ‘em here,” Trump told reporters at the Pentagon, where he signed the order in January.
But in the eight months since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed in attacks by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.
Radical Islamic terrorists inspired or directed by groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda do pose a clear threat to the US. There is no question about that. Before last night’s deadly shooting in Las Vegas, the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history occurred in June 2016 when an ISIS-inspired man opened fire in a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, killing 49 people and wounding 53.
And ISIS-linked militants have killed or injured dozens of people in countries like England, France, and Canada so far this year, including two women killed in a stabbing attack in Marseille, France, and several people injured in a car-ramming attack in Edmonton, Canada, just this weekend.
But here at home, the bigger threat has come from a very different kind of attacker, one with no ties to religion generally or Islamist extremism specifically.
Here are just a few of the attacks that have occurred in 2017:

  • Sunday night, a 64-year-old white man from Nevada opened fire on a crowd of more than 22,000 people at a country music festival in Las Vegas, killing more than 50 and wounding more than 200.
  • In August, a 20-year-old white Nazi sympathizer from Ohio sped his car into a crowd of anti-racist protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a woman and injuring at least 19 others.
  • In June, a 66-year-old white man from Illinois shot at Republican Congress members during an early morning baseball practice, severely wounding several people including Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the House of Representatives Majority Whip.
  • In March 2017, a 28-year-old white man from Baltimore traveled to New York City with the explicit aim of killing black men. He stabbed 66-year-old Timothy Caughman to death and was charged with terrorism by New York state authorities.
  • In May, a 35-year-old white man from Oregon named Jeremy Joseph Christian began harassing Muslim teenagers on a train in Portland, telling them “We need Americans here!” Two men interceded; Christian then stabbed and killed them both.
In fact, between 2001 and 2015, more Americans were killed by homegrown right-wing extremists than by Islamist terrorists, according to a study by New America, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, DC.


A June 2017 study by Reveal and the Center for Investigative Reporting found a similar pattern:

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[h=3]Even the “radical Islamic terrorists” are usually US citizens[/h]In Trump’s very first speech to Congress, he claimed that “the vast majority of individuals convicted of terrorism and terrorism-related offenses since 9/11 came here from outside of our country.”
But none of the perpetrators of the major US terrorist attacks carried out in the name of Islam in the past 15 years have come from the nations on Trump’s travel ban (either the original oneor the new, revised version that was released late last month). In fact, the country home to the biggest number of terrorists who have carried out successful attacks inside the US is the US itself.
The San Bernardino shooting that killed 14 people was carried out by an American-born US citizen of Pakistani descent and a lawful permanent US resident of Pakistani descent. The Orlando nightclub shooter who murdered 49 people was an American-born US citizen of Afghan descent. The Boston marathon bombers, who identified as ethnic Chechen, came to the US from Kyrgyzstan and grew up in Cambridge, Massachusetts, before carrying out attacks that left three dead. Faisal Shahzad, the attempted Times Square bomber, was Pakistani-American. Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 people at Fort Hood in 2009, was born in Virginia to Palestinian parents.
And as my colleague Zack Beauchamp has written, the average likelihood of an American being killed in a terrorist attack in which an immigrant participated in any given year is one in 3.6 million —even including the 9/11 deaths. The average American is more likely to die from their own clothing or a toddler with a gun than an immigrant terrorist. But we’re not banning guns and T-shirts from coming into the country.
Adopting extremist views and committing horrendous acts of violence in the name of some "righteous" cause, be it religion or politics or just plain old hatred, isn't something that only Muslims, or Arabs, or immigrants, or any other group of people do. It's something humans do.
 

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[h=1]White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners[/h]
[h=2]Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.[/h]By Jennifer Williams@jenn_ruthjennifer@vox.com Oct 2, 2017, 11:30am EDT


When President Donald Trump signed his since-revised executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, he claimed it was to protect Americans from “radical Islamic terrorists.”
“We don’t want ‘em here,” Trump told reporters at the Pentagon, where he signed the order in January.
But in the eight months since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed in attacks by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.
Radical Islamic terrorists inspired or directed by groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda do pose a clear threat to the US. There is no question about that. Before last night’s deadly shooting in Las Vegas, the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history occurred in June 2016 when an ISIS-inspired man opened fire in a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, killing 49 people and wounding 53.
And ISIS-linked militants have killed or injured dozens of people in countries like England, France, and Canada so far this year, including two women killed in a stabbing attack in Marseille, France, and several people injured in a car-ramming attack in Edmonton, Canada, just this weekend.
But here at home, the bigger threat has come from a very different kind of attacker, one with no ties to religion generally or Islamist extremism specifically.
Here are just a few of the attacks that have occurred in 2017:

  • Sunday night, a 64-year-old white man from Nevada opened fire on a crowd of more than 22,000 people at a country music festival in Las Vegas, killing more than 50 and wounding more than 200.
  • In August, a 20-year-old white Nazi sympathizer from Ohio sped his car into a crowd of anti-racist protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a woman and injuring at least 19 others.
  • In June, a 66-year-old white man from Illinois shot at Republican Congress members during an early morning baseball practice, severely wounding several people including Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the House of Representatives Majority Whip.
  • In March 2017, a 28-year-old white man from Baltimore traveled to New York City with the explicit aim of killing black men. He stabbed 66-year-old Timothy Caughman to death and was charged with terrorism by New York state authorities.
  • In May, a 35-year-old white man from Oregon named Jeremy Joseph Christian began harassing Muslim teenagers on a train in Portland, telling them “We need Americans here!” Two men interceded; Christian then stabbed and killed them both.
In fact, between 2001 and 2015, more Americans were killed by homegrown right-wing extremists than by Islamist terrorists, according to a study by New America, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, DC.


A June 2017 study by Reveal and the Center for Investigative Reporting found a similar pattern:

Domestic_terrorism_incidents_by_type.png
[h=3]Even the “radical Islamic terrorists” are usually US citizens[/h]In Trump’s very first speech to Congress, he claimed that “the vast majority of individuals convicted of terrorism and terrorism-related offenses since 9/11 came here from outside of our country.”
But none of the perpetrators of the major US terrorist attacks carried out in the name of Islam in the past 15 years have come from the nations on Trump’s travel ban (either the original oneor the new, revised version that was released late last month). In fact, the country home to the biggest number of terrorists who have carried out successful attacks inside the US is the US itself.
The San Bernardino shooting that killed 14 people was carried out by an American-born US citizen of Pakistani descent and a lawful permanent US resident of Pakistani descent. The Orlando nightclub shooter who murdered 49 people was an American-born US citizen of Afghan descent. The Boston marathon bombers, who identified as ethnic Chechen, came to the US from Kyrgyzstan and grew up in Cambridge, Massachusetts, before carrying out attacks that left three dead. Faisal Shahzad, the attempted Times Square bomber, was Pakistani-American. Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 people at Fort Hood in 2009, was born in Virginia to Palestinian parents.
And as my colleague Zack Beauchamp has written, the average likelihood of an American being killed in a terrorist attack in which an immigrant participated in any given year is one in 3.6 million —even including the 9/11 deaths. The average American is more likely to die from their own clothing or a toddler with a gun than an immigrant terrorist. But we’re not banning guns and T-shirts from coming into the country.
Adopting extremist views and committing horrendous acts of violence in the name of some "righteous" cause, be it religion or politics or just plain old hatred, isn't something that only Muslims, or Arabs, or immigrants, or any other group of people do. It's something humans do.

Ummmmm... I can prove that blacks have killed more. Take the challenge?
 

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White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners


Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.
Nice try.

There are an estimated 1.9-2.0 million Middle Eastern Americans according to the U.S. Census,
including both Arab and non-Arab Americans, comprising 0.6% of the total U.S. population.

Meanwhile White Americans constitute the majority, with a total of about 246,660,710, or
77.35% of the population.


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Nice try.

There are an estimated 1.9-2.0 million Middle Eastern Americans according to the U.S. Census,
including both Arab and non-Arab Americans, comprising 0.6% of the total U.S. population.

Meanwhile White Americans constitute the majority, with a total of about 246,660,710, or
77.35% of the population.


You're such an ass.
He sure is......
 

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the only white people I see rioting are liberals, somebody evidently has a powerful imagination, and it's safe to say any other demographic that's rioting are also democrats

one of the things fucking idiots are best at is rewriting history and spin, it's all they got

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It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimization rate was six times higher.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. (remember, that only 13% of the US population is black)

------- Bet that doesnt fit the "White Men are the most violent" narrative you have been spoon fed --------
 

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Still about 3000 more to even be close as of 9-11
 
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Still about 3000 more to even be close as of 9-11

So the white/right wing extremists are trying more often and hitting more often but the Islamic extremists have killed more overall? Hmm..So basically saying both are terrorists but the Islamic terrorists are more proficient at it than the white/right extremists terrorists? Got it. Lol.

Facts are facts and you can spin it however you want in a futile attempt to discredit they story.

I won't bother responding to the idiotic and flawed, illogical replies/trolling on here. Facts are facts. We have a white/right wing extremist problem in the U.S and the Liberals are maybe getting a little worked up at protests that you are whining about but these right wing extremists are planning and carrying out actual attacks.

Right wing extremists...they will try to confuse the issue in the most absurd ways lol. It's a disease and inferior intellect combined with hatefilled ideology.
 
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[h=1]Leader of neo-Nazi group linked to Charlottesville attack was a US marine[/h]
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[FONT=&quot]Dillon Hopper, the self-styled ‘commander’ of the Vanguard America group that attacker James Fields marched with, was a sergeant in the US marine corps

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[FONT=&quot][h=1]Leader of neo-Nazi group linked to Charlottesville attack was a US marine[/h]
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[FONT=&quot]Dillon Hopper, the self-styled ‘commander’ of the Vanguard America group that attacker James Fields marched with, was a sergeant in the US marine corps

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[FONT=&quot]The leader of the neo-Nazi group that James Fields marched with in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday before allegedly killing a protester with his car served in the US marine corps until earlier this year.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Dillon Hopper, the self-styled “commander” of Vanguard America, is a recently retired marine staff sergeant and veteran of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Members of his white supremacist group marched in Virginia last weekend.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hopper, 29, has been using his former name, Dillon Irizarry, when appearing in public for Vanguard America. But he officially changed his name to Dillon Ulysses Hopper in November 2006, according to court records in his native New Mexico.
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[FONT=&quot]Hopper’s active duty with the marines ended in January this year, according to a Department of Defense record. He has lived in California and Ohio since returning to the US. Hopper’s full service record could not immediately be obtained. His Facebook avatar is currently a cartoon image of Donald Trump building a wall.
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[FONT=&quot]Hopper and Vanguard America did not respond to messages seeking comment. Hopper’s identity was first reported by Splinter.
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[FONT=&quot]Fields, a 20-year-old military bootcamp dropout from Maumee, Ohio, has been charged with crimes including murder after allegedly driving his Dodge Challenger into a crowd of people in Charlottesville who were demonstrating against the far-right. The crash killed 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injured about 20 others.

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[FONT=&quot]Fields had been photographed standing among members of Vanguard America earlier in the day. He was pictured holding a shield bearing the group’s logo and was wearing the same distinctive outfit – white polo shirt and khakis – as many Vanguard members. The group has said, however, that Fields is not a member.
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[FONT=&quot]Vanguard America is only about a year old. It is one of a handful of new white supremacist organizations that are attempting to radicalize young white men across the country. Its manifesto is racist and its website URL references the Nazi slogan “blood and soil”. The group bars people who are not of white European heritage.

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[FONT=&quot]Hopper was promoted to staff sergeant by the marines in October last year, according to a local news report, and had been due to “train, teach and mentor” potential marine officers. The article said Hopper had joined the military shortly after graduating from high school in Roswell, New Mexico, in 2005.
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[FONT=&quot]In a speech to fellow Nazis in Pikeville, Kentucky, earlier this year, Hopper said that since taking over the leadership of American Vanguard he had tried to strengthen the group with lessons learned from his time in the military.
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[FONT=&quot]“I’ve kind of tooken [sic] that experience and scrubbed the Vanguard pretty good with it,” Hopper said, “and I’m getting a pretty good product.”
In an interview with the Guardian in May, a Vanguard America organizer from Texas, who would identify himself only as a “vice commander” named Thomas, said that a “large percentage” of Vanguard’s members are college-aged, and that most are in their early twenties. Members must be aged between 18 and 45.

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“We also uphold standards of dress and grooming and physical fitness because our ideology is one of strength and purity and self-improvement,” he said.Like Identity Evropa, a similar white nationalist group, Vanguard America seeks to recruit clean-cut, more professional white men, rebranding racist organizing in a preppier image. Visible neck and hand tattoos, for instance, are discouraged, and one organizer said that obese men would be disqualified from joining.
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[FONT=&quot]Thomas would not provide any details about the group’s process for vetting members, other than to say that it included an interview. A questionnaire once used by the group for screening, which was obtained by the Guardian, asked for details of applicants’ professions, beliefs and criminal histories. It asked how often they consumed tobacco or alcohol and “how long you’ve been ‘red pilled’,” a phrase used on the far-right to mean aware of supposed difficult truths.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Vanguard America has attracted attention by putting up racist posters on college campuses in areas such as Maryland, Washington DC and Texas.
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[FONT=&quot]In May, a 23-year-old black college student was stabbed to death by a white man on the University of Maryland’s campus. Richard Collins III, was about to graduate, and had just been commissioned as a second lieutenant in the US army.
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[FONT=&quot]The alleged killer had been part of a Facebook group named “Alt-Reich”, authorities said. The Vanguard America spokesman objected to links between made between Collins’s stabbing and the white nationalist posters that had appeared on campus.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“There are murders of all ideologies,” he said, going on to say: “We don’t promote this kind of action.”[/FONT]
 
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The media and right wing extremists' propaganda wants you to believe we have a Mooslem problem lol. Yet the real rising issue is the extremist right wing problem. It's not wonder the FBI take it so seriously. (They are)
 

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So the white/right wing extremists are trying more often and hitting more often but the Islamic extremists have killed more overall? Hmm..So basically saying both are terrorists but the Islamic terrorists are more proficient at it than the white/right extremists terrorists? Got it. Lol.

Facts are facts and you can spin it however you want in a futile attempt to discredit they story.

I won't bother responding to the idiotic and flawed, illogical replies/trolling on here. Facts are facts. We have a white/right wing extremist problem in the U.S and the Liberals are maybe getting a little worked up at protests that you are whining about but these right wing extremists are planning and carrying out actual attacks.

Right wing extremists...they will try to confuse the issue in the most absurd ways lol. It's a disease and inferior intellect combined with hatefilled ideology.
Yes they are but yours don't pass the smell test.
 
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