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Thread: It's very simple. Jon Gruden is a winner!

  1. #1 It's very simple. Jon Gruden is a winner! 
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    Good to see a winning coach back in the fold with the Raiders. So many coaches in the NFL who can't even hold Gruden's jock.
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    Ehh, 10 years away from the game is a long time. Wasn't a fan of Oak's offseason at all, he made a lot of moves signing "name" vets and I just think thats a strategy from a bygone era.

    The # of snaps, impact that older players are having in the league has declined rapidly in the last 7-8 years. Squeezing a few more years out of those 30 somethings just doesn't work as well as it used to.

    Maybe Carr and him make some magic but I think we're looking at Joe Gibbs Part 2 on the Skins all over again with them.
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    Gibbs was not from a different era. He was from a different epoch.

    I'm not saying Gruden will have them winning a Superbowl or some crazy shit like that, but he'll have them winning.


    Gruden was the king of managing trash QB's. Look at Oak and Tampa Bay. They didn't win b/c of the QB's they had. They won b/c Gruden was at the helm. Plain and simple. Also, Gruden beat the Patriots in New England before we found out that Bellicheat is close to God... oh wait, the game got rigged and New England won.

    But I think that is a good description of Gruden. He can go into New England and smash Bellicheat's head against the wall and compete.


    It's early so I don't expect them to win out the gate. And they've got Corky a door-to-door Bible salesman as their QB, but Gruden will get the train going. Just a matter of time.


    Think 9-7 is a decent goal for year one. 10-6 would be fantastic.
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    I'm not doubting his resume, he was a top tier coach when he coached but coaching vs TV is just a whole different animal when it comes to analyzing the game.

    10 years is a long damn time, look at Jeff Fisher with the Rams 2 years ago. He was a good coach from that era as well. Game changes fast, and not everyone adapts like Bill Belichick or even Andy Reid.

    Just their offseason alone has me thinking he's taking a very antiquated approach.

    Beyond that, I just think that team is in a shitty situation in general. In a year, they're not even going to have a homefield in Vegas as that will become the vacation weekend for every visiting team's fan base.
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    It's early. I don't expect miracles early. Also, with Washington .... well, that's where all great coaches go to die. Schottenheimer and the like.

    Hard to find a owner so intent and wanting his team to lose like Snyder. I liked Fisher a lot but I rank Gruden much higher.
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    Fucking Raiders 13-7 and 1st and goal ... and fumble turnover.

    Need these bitches -2.5.
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    3rd and 11 from the 5.... and 1 for 6 on the 3rd down .... and they make it. Fuckign assholes better not blow this cover.
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    3rd and 10.... stuffed. But a flag and 1st down. Jesus.
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    3rd down again.... and another 1st down. Ha ha. This shit should've been put away.
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    If they get a TD here, no doubt in my mind OAK won't cover -2.5.
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    2nd and 18 from the 19.... watch them do some more miracle shit now.
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    How can you challenge a previous play after a ball was snapped on the next play?

    Rule change ... or what is this?
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    Fucking overturned.

    This is going to be a disaster. It's fuckign coming.
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    Detoilet starting from own 15

    3rd and 19... likely the game right here...
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    16-10, 2:17

    Det ball

    No TD and it's a winner
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    And holy fucking shit. Kicks it out of bounds. Fucking christ

    1st and 10 at the 40

    Going to lose
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    And Cassell is in... fuck. Former quality QB.

    Setting up for a nightmare.
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    3rd and 4 ...

    3rd and 14 ....

    4th and 11... and first down


    fuckign christ
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    1st and 10 at 35 ...... tick fucking tock
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    review... clearly incomplete

    holy fuck... they say it's complete


    FUCK ME. GOING TO LOSE
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    2nd and 10... at 35
    3rd and 10..... 32 seconds
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    gruden had good players, i think he is overrated
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    why do they need connor cook on the roster
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