Jets plan to make a run at Jim Harbaugh

Betallsports · Dec 24, 2018

[FONT=&quot]Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh has said he’s staying put. That won’t keep at least one NFL team from trying to lure him back.

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[FONT=&quot]Per a league source, the Jets are the team that is planning to make a run at Harbaugh after the season ends.

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[FONT=&quot]The thinking is that the Jets plan to make Harbaugh a financial offer he can’t refuse, well in excess of the $7 million he earns at Ann Arbor.

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[FONT=&quot]Harbaugh is finishing his fourth season with Michigan. He left Stanford after four years, and he left the 49ers after four years.

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[FONT=&quot]The Jets started digging on Harbaugh roughly four weeks ago, and the plan remains to attempt to interview him, which presumes that coach Todd Bowles will be fired after the season.

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[FONT=&quot]It’s still unclear whether the Jets will change coaches only, or whether G.M. Mike Maccagnan also will be replaced. Harbaugh may want full control over the roster and the draft if he takes the job, and maybe the Jets will give it to him.

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[FONT=&quot]Again, Harbaugh has said he’s not leaving. But no matter what it may cost to get him, it’s free to try.[/FONT]

Avocado33 · Dec 24, 2018

Jim Harbaugh is the most overrated coach in sports. I’ve never seen anyone get praised so much for not accomplishing anything

Willie99 · Dec 24, 2018

Isn't Belichick looking for a new home?

Merry Christmas Mikey

Betallsports · Dec 24, 2018

Willie99 said:
Isn't Belichick looking for a new home?

Merry Christmas Mikey

Yeah maybe he can stay longer than an hour or whatever it was . lol

Merry Christmas Buddy

stock07 · Dec 24, 2018

StanfordSam said:
Jim Harbaugh is the most overrated coach in sports. I’ve never seen anyone get praised so much for not accomplishing anything

Jim Harbaugh
-Led University of San Diego to 2 straight Pioneer League Championships in 3 years there.

-Turned a 4-8 Stanford team into a 12-1 Orange bowl winning team in 4 years there.

-He went to the 49er's, a team who had not had a winning season or been to the playoffs in 10 years. They went 13-3 his first season and went to the NFC Championship game. The next season 49er's went 11-4-1, won the NFC championship and went to the Super Bowl. The Next season 49er's went 12-4 and went to the NFC Championship game.

His last season in SF 8-8 down year and he is the best Coach Mich. has seen in awhile. His down fall is he cant win the "big game". However their are ALOT of coaches who cant even GET to the "big game". I feel he is better suited as an NFL coach. He is not overrated at all and the Jets would be lucky to get him. But you are just an old buckeye homer so of course you are blind to his success.

Avocado33 · Dec 24, 2018

The best Michigan coach they've had in a while? That's not saying a lot, seeing as they thought it was a good idea to hire Rich Rodriquez and Brady Hoke.

This guy was supposed to come in and revitalize the rivalry with Ohio State, and make Michigan an instant national contender and premiere Big Ten title contender. He has't won the Big Ten East yet, let alone a Big Ten title.

Urban/Harbaugh was supposed to be Urban/Bo. He's 0-4 against Ohio State.

10-3, 10-3, 8-5, and now 10-2 with a bowl game pending. Is that really better than what Michigan was? Lloyd Carr was a good coach who was producing similar results, and he got run out of town. Harbaugh really hasn't improved Michigan at all. He's kept them as the top 15-20 program it is.

He's not a bad coach obviously, but the hype that surrounds him is absolutely insane. He was instantly put on Urban's level before he coached a game at Michigan. It was blatantly disrespectful.

I do agree that he is more suited for the NFL level.

Avocado33 · Dec 24, 2018

*Woody/Bo

stock07 · Dec 24, 2018

For sure Wolverines supporters had higher hopes for him. And I hate to admit it but he is no match for urban in the college ranks. But both Ohio state/Michigan fans put too much stock in one game in determining if they had a “successful “ season or not. Meyer couldn’t handle the NFL he is a great college coach though. Harbaugh can handle the NFL and I feel like that’s where he should have stayed. I wouldn’t have taken the Michigan job if I were him but I give him props for at least giving the fans something to look forward too. I would love to see him go to the Jets and win a super bowl there, that would erase the 0-4 buckeye taste out his mouth and be a miracle in itself. LoL.

Avocado33 · Dec 24, 2018

stock07 said:
For sure Wolverines supporters had higher hopes for him. And I hate to admit it but he is no match for urban in the college ranks. But both Ohio state/Michigan fans put too much stock in one game in determining if they had a “successful “ season or not. Meyer couldn’t handle the NFL he is a great college coach though. Harbaugh can handle the NFL and I feel like that’s where he should have stayed. I wouldn’t have taken the Michigan job if I were him but I give him props for at least giving the fans something to look forward too. I would love to see him go to the Jets and win a super bowl there, that would erase the 0-4 buckeye taste out his mouth and be a miracle in itself. LoL.

Yeah, that's the issue with him that I have. It's not that he's a bad coach (he's a good coach), but he was instantly compared to Urban. That's what pissed me/a lot of fans off. Urban, as much as people hate the guy, is one of the greatest college football coaches ever. I don't love the guy as a person, but he truly is a transcendent coach who did amazing things for the Ohio State program.

It was simply disrespectful to compare Harbaugh to a proven legend like Urban. But I suppose when you're that desperate to win, it's not unfathomable to over-hype the guy and get too optimistic.

Reality is Ohio State/Michigan is a huge measuring stick for coaches at the two schools. People have been fired over their performance in the rivalry. I don't think THAT much weight should be placed on it, but if you proclaim someone a savior of a program, they gotta deliver in that game at minimum.

I think Harbaugh needs to go to a place in the NFL with a good, somewhat developed QB and an above average defense. I think he can do well in that setting. He's a good coach. He just isn't a savior, which a lot of people made him out to be.

Albatross · Dec 24, 2018

Lol at people who think he has made Michigan relevant again.......fking Germy Proot just broke his ass.

bodyforlife · Dec 24, 2018

StanfordSam said:
Jim Harbaugh is the most overrated coach in sports. I’ve never seen anyone get praised so much for not accomplishing anything

Yep, ditto. He's the last coach I'd want coaching my teams when the chips are on the line. He turns into a complete idiot under the big lights every time.

https://theshadowleague.com/jim-harbaugh-loses-another-big-game/

bodyforlife · Dec 24, 2018

College

2009 - Embarrassing loss to Cal puts him in the Sun Bowl and the team loses.

2010 - Collapses to Oregon (note: his QB was Andrew Luck) and team ends up in the Orange Bowl for his ONLY bowl victory in his time at Stanford.

With Michigan, he is 1-2 in bowl games. A win in the Citrus bowl and losses in the the Orange Bowl and the Outback Bowl

Pro

2012 - He gets the Niners to the Superbowl and the team looks completely unprepared for the game. The Ravens come out and completely dismantle his team in the first half. And then suddenly, there's a power failure (hmmm). The extended delay gives his team some time to regain their composure, but with the game within his grasp, he makes the most idiotic coaching calls on the final set of downs cementing the victory for the Ravens

2013 - With his defense playing an incredible game (only one blown play in the entire game), Harbaugh stupidly decides he's going to milk the clock in the final series of the game and lets roughly 30 seconds roll off in what was the coaching blunder of the century (did I mention his defense was playing incredible). His team still needs to score a TD to win. His offense seizes up under the time pressure, and his moron QB challenges the best corner in football at the time (Richard Sherman) who tips the ball and it gets picked off.

Seriously, what a fucking moron!!!

FairWarning · Dec 27, 2018

It wouldn’t surprise me if he listens to the Jets if Mich loses this bowl game. They already have four players leaving for the NFL.

FairWarning · Dec 27, 2018

StanfordSam said:
Yeah, that's the issue with him that I have. It's not that he's a bad coach (he's a good coach), but he was instantly compared to Urban. That's what pissed me/a lot of fans off. Urban, as much as people hate the guy, is one of the greatest college football coaches ever. I don't love the guy as a person, but he truly is a transcendent coach who did amazing things for the Ohio State program.

It was simply disrespectful to compare Harbaugh to a proven legend like Urban. But I suppose when you're that desperate to win, it's not unfathomable to over-hype the guy and get too optimistic.

Reality is Ohio State/Michigan is a huge measuring stick for coaches at the two schools. People have been fired over their performance in the rivalry. I don't think THAT much weight should be placed on it, but if you proclaim someone a savior of a program, they gotta deliver in that game at minimum.

I think Harbaugh needs to go to a place in the NFL with a good, somewhat developed QB and an above average defense. I think he can do well in that setting. He's a good coach. He just isn't a savior, which a lot of people made him out to be.

He went from being being a creative coach to being the modern Bo since arriving. He’s far too conservative in these big games.

EasyMoney · Dec 27, 2018

good lord you people. Sure I'm positive there are Michigan fans that thought they would win more than they have but those people are fucking idiots. I am a Michigan fan. Would it have been nice to win the big ten or make a playoff sometime in his first 4 years, sure. Obviously that would've been great. Am I disappointed at the job he is doing, umm no. Guy has won 10 games three times in 4 years. Michigan has won 10 games 4 other times in the 2000's. They have won 10+ 5 times in the last 15 years and 3 of the 5 are his 4 years. He has like the 5th highest winning percentage of any active coach. Michigan was a fucking train wreck for the decade before him and you think I'm mad because he has only gotten the program to #7 nationally. GTFO. Look, Dabo, Urban, Saban, yes those guys are super elite college coaches that have an unbelievable track record. Chances are highly highly unlikely that any coach is going to come into a dumpster fire of a program and start beating those coaches right out of the gate. News flash, Nick Saban wasn't nick saban right out of the gate either. He never had a great team at MSU, he had 1 elite year out of 5 at LSU and then he is the best coach in football at Bama, which he was 7-6 his first year there. Dabo's first 4 years at clemson..... 4-3, 9-5, 6-7. Any fan that expects the new coach to come in and win national championships right off the bat isn't being realistic. Sure, it does happen here and there but its pretty damn rare

michael777 · Dec 27, 2018

Jim has been a miserable failure at Uof M and most hate him around here and would love to see him gone

Avocado33 · Dec 27, 2018

EasyMoney said:
good lord you people. Sure I'm positive there are Michigan fans that thought they would win more than they have but those people are fucking idiots. I am a Michigan fan. Would it have been nice to win the big ten or make a playoff sometime in his first 4 years, sure. Obviously that would've been great. Am I disappointed at the job he is doing, umm no. Guy has won 10 games three times in 4 years. Michigan has won 10 games 4 other times in the 2000's. They have won 10+ 5 times in the last 15 years and 3 of the 5 are his 4 years. He has like the 5th highest winning percentage of any active coach. Michigan was a fucking train wreck for the decade before him and you think I'm mad because he has only gotten the program to #7 nationally. GTFO. Look, Dabo, Urban, Saban, yes those guys are super elite college coaches that have an unbelievable track record. Chances are highly highly unlikely that any coach is going to come into a dumpster fire of a program and start beating those coaches right out of the gate. News flash, Nick Saban wasn't nick saban right out of the gate either. He never had a great team at MSU, he had 1 elite year out of 5 at LSU and then he is the best coach in football at Bama, which he was 7-6 his first year there. Dabo's first 4 years at clemson..... 4-3, 9-5, 6-7. Any fan that expects the new coach to come in and win national championships right off the bat isn't being realistic. Sure, it does happen here and there but its pretty damn rare

The guy that Harbaugh was directly compared to, Urban Meyer, went 82-9 overall and 54-4 in Big Ten play

He turned a 6-7 team into a 12-0 team his first season

He won a national championship, and never lost more than 2 games in a single season.

That's the guy who is apparently "rivals" with Jim Harbaugh. Maybe you're one of those reasonable Michigan fans that didn't expect Harbaugh to be on Urban's level immediately. It's the elevation of Harbaugh to Urban's level, by many people, that makes no sense to me. It was prematurely declaring OSU/Michigan a rivalry again before Harbaugh had coached a game that pisses people off.

BTW Jim Tressel came to OSU in 2001 and went 7-5 in his first season, then went 14-0 and won a national championship the next season. So it may be rare, but Ohio State's last two coaches (Fickell doesn't really count, as he was a one year interim coach) won almost right away and maintained a level of national success throughout their entire tenures.

EasyMoney · Dec 27, 2018

StanfordSam said:
The guy that Harbaugh was directly compared to, Urban Meyer, went 82-9 overall and 54-4 in Big Ten play

He turned a 6-7 team into a 12-0 team his first season

He won a national championship, and never lost more than 2 games in a single season.

That's the guy who is apparently "rivals" with Jim Harbaugh. Maybe you're one of those reasonable Michigan fans that didn't expect Harbaugh to be on Urban's level immediately. It's the elevation of Harbaugh to Urban's level, by many people, that makes no sense to me. It was prematurely declaring OSU/Michigan a rivalry again before Harbaugh had coached a game that pisses people off.

BTW Jim Tressel came to OSU in 2001 and went 7-5 in his first season, then went 14-0 and won a national championship the next season. So it may be rare, but Ohio State's last two coaches (Fickell doesn't really count, as he was a one year interim coach) won almost right away and maintained a level of national success throughout their entire tenures.

I literally don't know a single person that has compared Harbaugh to urban meyer. Urban meyer has the highest winning percentage of any coach in the last 70 years. People were/ are excited about what Michigan is doing now compared to the last 10 years but i don't know anyone that is saying Harbaugh is better than Meyer.

Avocado33 · Dec 27, 2018

EasyMoney said:
I literally don't know a single person that has compared Harbaugh to urban meyer. Urban meyer has the highest winning percentage of any coach in the last 70 years. People were/ are excited about what Michigan is doing now compared to the last 10 years but i don't know anyone that is saying Harbaugh is better than Meyer.

Maybe you didn't know any, but I know a lot of Michigan fans and they thought the hiring of Harbaugh saved the program, re-ignited the rivalry with Ohio State, etc, and it's not exactly a secret that a lot of the nation thought he was going to save the program.

The guy really hasn't even given Michigan fans reason to be mildly excited. He hasn't really improved the program at all. 10-3 isn't something to be proud of when you're at a "Michigan-level" program.

I'm not going to praise you for being better than RichRod or Brady Hoke. Those were comical hires, so I guess Harbaugh is better than those. But what has he done to elevate himself over Lloyd Carr even?

Harbaugh isn't going to succeed at Michigan until he adapts to a more modern style of football. He is a good coach, but his style doesn't work at the college level anymore. You're not going to beat teams like Ohio State with that meat/potatoes bullshit that works against teams like Nebraska.

Albatross · Dec 27, 2018

Michigan hasn't sniffed a conference championship since 2003. The only positive is Urban is gone, so maybe they may have a chance to sniff winning a Big 10 title by default and a down Big 10.

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