UFC Fight Night 143 Cejudo vs. Dillashaw

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T.J, "Killashaw" -190

Dillashaw recently told Helwani he was sent down "to kill" the 125 division. Henry Cejudo win over Demetrious Johnson for the 125 belt , was more Johnson not being his best then Henry Cejudo getting better , he seemed like he lacked any demanding careful consideration or application or heart in the fight , it was a weak Decision (split) that Cejudo took the belt by dominating the take-downs . Henry Cejudo 2008 Summer Olympics credentials speak for its self, and of course will want a ground battle. Henry Cejudo would be the biggest win of his T.J. Dillashaw career to become a two-division champion, that is a boss move . Dillashaw’s boxing and stand up and timing on the feet is light years better than Cejudo’s. Cejudo’s boxing did sting Demetrious Johnson and helped set up the ground game, but Dillashaw will counter this with feinting to set up his other attacks. i was not impressed by Cejudo top game where Dillashaw will be phyicaly stronger than Cejudo, and has an extremely good takedown offense , and is more brutal with the top game. Benavidez is the last man to have beaten Cejudo, Benavidez and Dillashaw used to be longtime teammates at Team Alpha Male. That was until Dillashaw departed with striking coach Duane Ludwig in Colorado. Benavidez was still friendly with Dillashaw after the leave and even still trained with him a bit. Dillashaw, who will be dropping an extra 10 pounds for his flyweight title fight .
 

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1. How much will the weight cut affect Dillashaw ? If Dillashaw does fail to hit the 125-pound limit, the UFC has a backup plan in place. Two-time flyweight title challenger Joseph Benavidez will step in and face Cejudo for the title if Dillashaw is heavy. Benavidez is scheduled to meet Dustin Ortiz on the main card of the event. Benavidez has already beat Dustin Ortiz once on the UFC Fight Night 57 Edgar vs. Swanson. That might fuck with Benavidez focus. There is no one-pound allowance for UFC title fights.

2. Freestyle wrestling brings together traditional wrestling, judo, and sambo techniques Vs Modern MMA shoot wrestling ? Ryan Hall exemplified this last week what i would call Modern MMA wrestling. Freestyle wrestlers always seem to bring a never tap, never say die mentality, but i trace my roots to a more JKD "non-classical" and a more violent style that i feel is closer to real combat. Dillashaw is one of the smartest MMA fighters, He was enrolled in graduate school, planning to become a physician’s assistant. Then, Team Alpha Male founder Urijah Faber, who was also a former wrestler and assistant coach at UC Davis, approached him about pursuing mixed martial arts. He can push the envelope of MMA and make it evolve.
 

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1. How much will the weight cut affect Dillashaw ? If Dillashaw does fail to hit the 125-pound limit, the UFC has a backup plan in place. Two-time flyweight title challenger Joseph Benavidez will step in and face Cejudo for the title if Dillashaw is heavy. Benavidez is scheduled to meet Dustin Ortiz on the main card of the event. Benavidez has already beat Dustin Ortiz once on the UFC Fight Night 57 Edgar vs. Swanson. That might fuck with Benavidez focus. There is no one-pound allowance for UFC title fights.

2. Freestyle wrestling brings together traditional wrestling, judo, and sambo techniques Vs Modern MMA shoot wrestling ? Ryan Hall exemplified this last week what i would call Modern MMA wrestling. Freestyle wrestlers always seem to bring a never tap, never say die mentality, but i trace my roots to a more JKD "non-classical" and a more violent style that i feel is closer to real combat. Dillashaw is one of the smartest MMA fighters, He was enrolled in graduate school, planning to become a physician’s assistant. Then, Team Alpha Male founder Urijah Faber, who was also a former wrestler and assistant coach at UC Davis, approached him about pursuing mixed martial arts. He can push the envelope of MMA and make it evolve.


What the hell is this shit? Ryan Hall isn’t a wrestler at all, he’s a straight up BJJ player with a huge emphasis on heel hooks, knee bars, and anything leg related. Benavidez won’t be fucked with because of having to make 125 on the dot, hell he’s had to do it twice already when fighting for the UFC Flyweight title. The rest of this shit is just jibberish...
 

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What the hell is this shit? Ryan Hall isn’t a wrestler at all, he’s a straight up BJJ player with a huge emphasis on heel hooks, knee bars, and anything leg related. Benavidez won’t be fucked with because of having to make 125 on the dot, hell he’s had to do it twice already when fighting for the UFC Flyweight title. The rest of this shit is just jibberish...


Jibberish is an understatement.
 

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Agree ... I Like "nonsense" more

Can't stand people that try to come off as experts and are totally misleading others with BAD info.
 

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What are you guys doing with this fight? I bet Dillashaw when it came out at -190 and I'd probably going to bet it for more in the next day or two. I expected this line to be like -350.

Cejudo just isn't that good and it is a horrible style matchup for him. His gameplan vs superior fighters is just to use his wrestling to lay and pray on them but TJ is bigger, has excellent TDD and has a huge edge in striking.

Short of just being fucked with a bad weight cut (he has 1 of the best nutrition/training teams out there from what I understand) I really don't see many pathways to victory for Cejudo.

UFC obviously put this together not because it is a superfight or anything (its on ESPN, not even PPV..No one really cares about it, hype is minimal) but so TJ beats him and then they can end the commercial failure that is the 125 pound division.
 

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I think it's sad to label the 125 division as a "commercial failure." Hey, I get it, people don't like the little guys fighting, just like most don't like the girls (tell that to Nunes), but they're always some of the scrappiest and most entertaining fights around. It's a huge part why I like the regional scene way better than the World Powers scene because it's loaded with little guys and gals that just flat out scrap. Always entertaining...

As for this fight, I see more value in Cejudo than most, although I say he still probably doesn't win, he far from "just isn't that good." His stand up is highly improved, sub game has improved, wrestling speaks for itself, and he seems to be getting better in the cardio game (striking and cardio def the two main weaknesses)...

Reports are that TJ is sitting at 130 and has been since two weeks out of the fight. He should def be the bigger man come fight time, but Cejudo has had problems missing weight as well, and moves to Bantamweight too, which may be the underlying ticket to this fight, it doesn't matter if he wins or loses because he can gladly move to BW and still collect a nice paycheck...
 

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Can't lie and say that the OP being on TJ doesn't make me like Cejudo a tad more, though, but he is long overdue to hit a juicy play, ass backwards analysis or not...
 

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As far as caliber of fighter/resume of champions, he is pretty thin compared to TJ. If TJ doesn't lose that 50/50 decision to Cruz then he would likely be considered P4P #1 right now (besides Jones if active I guess)...He's been dominating the 135 pound division since he beat Barao, and this is against elite competition.

Cejudo lost 2 of is last 4 fights before his victory over DJ. If he fought Benavidez tomorrow I'm not even sure he would be favored.

It was a nice victory over DJ but the difference in the fight was him using wrestling and winning close rounds that way, he barely hurt him. If he beats Dillashaw then I think it would almost certainly have to be the same way and I just don't see it. Very tough to win 5 round fights that way against a bigger man with the caliber of TDD/elusiveness TJ has. So then it comes to striking, Dillashaw stood toe to toe with Garbrandt twice and Cejudo is gonna touch his chin?


We're talking a top P4P guy, a multi-time champion vs a contender that just came off a huge upset in a lower division. And the top P4P guy is the bigger man from the bigger weight class.
 

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When I say not that good I just mean in the context of a champ vs champ fight against a bigger guy that blows him away resume wise.

He's getting too much credit for the DJ victory IMO.



If TJ wins his decision vs Cruz and Cejudo loses his decision vs DJ (12/25 media at ringside had it for DJ and it really was a 50/50 fight) then this line is not -190 (granted they wouldn't be fighting if that was the case but I think you get the point of the hypothetical exercise) It would be much higher.
 

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Can't lie and say that the OP being on TJ doesn't make me like Cejudo a tad more, though, but he is long overdue to hit a juicy play, ass backwards analysis or not...

Isn't he basically on every favorite in title fights? Lol

I do agree with the majority of his write-up though. Sometimes little things influence lines that really shouldn't, like both of these guys having belts and 1 of them coming off a SD victory over 1 of the GOAT's, but it doesn't really change what the matchup is.
 

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Isn't he basically on every favorite in title fights? Lol

I do agree with the majority of his write-up though. Sometimes little things influence lines that really shouldn't, like both of these guys having belts and 1 of them coming off a SD victory over 1 of the GOAT's, but it doesn't really change what the matchup is.

His write-ups are ass backwards garbage! The parts you agree with are stolen straight from mmamania.
 

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His write-ups are ass backwards garbage! The parts you agree with are stolen straight from mmamania.

Well, atleast it is better than the guy that says Jon Jones is gonna lose every fight for the last 8 years. Luckily for him he never took me up on that dime bet (despite proposing it and then going AWOL once I said let's do it)

Also to that guy, please don't come into the thread and tell me Jones would lose to Roy Nelson and a bunch of other guys. I know, I know, you've told me 50 times.
 

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Well, atleast it is better than the guy that says Jon Jones is gonna lose every fight for the last 8 years. Luckily for him he never took me up on that dime bet (despite proposing it and then going AWOL once I said let's do it)

Also to that guy, please don't come into the thread and tell me Jones would lose to Roy Nelson and a bunch of other guys. I know, I know, you've told me 50 times.

Well, speaking of Jones, call me crazy, but I see some value with Anthony Smith at these huge odds. If Jones looks like he did in the Gus fight, Smith could even get the KO. The kid just keeps improving and does have some decent hands, and he’ll try to close the distance and push the pace a little more than Gus (Gus’ downfall). Granted, it may get him KO’d in the end, but it’s the right approach to his chances to “shock the World.”
 

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Why would the UFC have Jones fight some guy no one knows where he is huge fav?

This dude could get popped for the sauce at any moment, OJ his girl, beatup a civilian, etc....Get as many big money fights out of him as you can.



Two other fights I have leans on are Bader -320 vs Fedor....Fedor just a name at this point really, Bader is the class of Bellator and has dominated every fight he has been in there besides the Phil Davis fight, who is a tough guy to dominate because of his style. But he's head and shoulders above anyone in that tournament.

And Ngannou +190 vs Cain...Cain hasn't had a quality win in 5.5 years unless you count Travis Browne. That's a massive layoff to then go back and fight top comp. Tough to comeback after that type of layoff against an elite opponent. Ngannou hype went a little too far but he has bricks for hands, that line seems to be pretty strongly pricing in Cain is still in his prime which is a big leap.
 

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That Fedor line is one of the most insane lines I have ever seen. I like Fedor to clip him or submit him on the ground. Fedor is faster and stronger. Only thing that worries me is his age and his body has taken a beating over the years. Don't know how much he has left in the tank. I will go small on Fedor based on his experience, strength, and speed.

Still waiting on Jones to fight a guy in HW that we know and enough with the middle/supermiddle weights
 

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Fader hasn't beaten anyone that isn't washed up or looking for a paycheck in over a decade. That's not an exaggeration.

Bader is a legitimate top 5-10 LHW, Fedor isn't faster or stronger but whatever I'm not going to go to great lenghts to make the case for a guy winning when he is -320....Good to hear you think that though.


Nice call on Jones/Gus, good thing you decided to slank away rather than bet me. Next time you tell someone you want to put a dime on a fight, make sure they don't have a dime to put on it. Otherwise when they call you out, you kinda look like a clown.
 

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