Rams @ Saints Championship Game Referee Info

Loves2kickass · Jan 15, 2019

Referee: Bill Vinovich

Saints are 8-4 with Bill Vinovich officiating when Brees is the QB for the Saints.

The Rams are 0-8 in last 12 years when he is officiating.

He does not call alot of penalties which apparently doesn't bode well for the Rams on the Road in New Orleans.

exploited17 · Jan 15, 2019

Sounds bad but whatever record is in the past two years is all that matters. And I'm guessing it isn't that bad. Unless you believe he hates the Rams for some reason it is a non issue even if all 8 were in the past two years.

Loves2kickass · Jan 15, 2019

True, just throwing it out there

Acebb · Jan 15, 2019

Vinovich has never assessed a Rams opponent more penalty yardage than the Rams in any Rams game he's been a part of.

LOL

Loves2kickass · Jan 15, 2019

Just an observation and the team records are accurate from my research.

Acebb · Jan 15, 2019

exploited17 said:
Sounds bad but whatever record is in the past two years is all that matters. And I'm guessing it isn't that bad. Unless you believe he hates the Rams for some reason it is a non issue even if all 8 were in the past two years.

He officiated 2 Rams games this year and they lost both.

Loves2kickass · Jan 15, 2019

halekulani · Jan 15, 2019

wish they used such trends to exclude refs from the game

Serbone · Jan 15, 2019

I wish there was more extensive data on refs and the key issues are, how often they call:

OL holding
defensive PI
defensive holding.

Those can change a game dramatically, the Super Bowl last year they did not call OL holding and it was a track meet, QBs in the pocket stood there safely.
All 4 teams this weekend are top passing squads but if there is no OL holding calls it obviously favors a passing team.
At a bar this year over a month ago, all the early games were on and a few guys were yelling out how the Pats NEVER were called for OL holding, it was true, I started to watch and it was ridiculous.
I am sure there are some that know this kind of thing... I realize it is not that simple, but there is something there.

G-Man! · Jan 16, 2019

halekulani said:
wish they used such trends to exclude refs from the game

We need more replay options. Any play that shows a wrong call, should be reversed. Even if the whistle was blown. There should be no dead play. If there was a turnover and the guy with the ball was on his way to a score, the score should be allowed.
Refs get too much control.

wizard1183 · Jan 16, 2019

Actually a Rams fan is outraged and has over 1000ppl petitioning to get him away from the game....said it’ll stop the fixing lol

wtd03 · Jan 16, 2019

wizard1183 said:
Actually a Rams fan is outraged and has over 1000ppl petitioning to get him away from the game....said it’ll stop the fixing lol

yep

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...e-bill-vinovich-from-nfc-title-game-vs-saints

wizard1183 · Jan 16, 2019

Needless to say NFL ain’t changing refs over stupid shit like this. They don’t give 2 fucks what ppl think. The Jets fan outraged over Patriots stealing signal calls? He was a lawyer trying to go up against a juggernaut. FAILED!

bigwang · Jan 18, 2019

Serbone said:
I wish there was more extensive data on refs and the key issues are, how often they call:

OL holding

defensive PI

defensive holding.

Those can change a game dramatically, the Super Bowl last year they did not call OL holding and it was a track meet, QBs in the pocket stood there safely.
All 4 teams this weekend are top passing squads but if there is no OL holding calls it obviously favors a passing team.
At a bar this year over a month ago, all the early games were on and a few guys were yelling out how the Pats NEVER were called for OL holding, it was true, I started to watch and it was ridiculous.
I am sure there are some that know this kind of thing... I realize it is not that simple, but there is something there.

You want to know how the ref calls things on pass plays like holding on tackles, roughing passer, grounding and his definition of fwd progress on runs. Those are his calls.
Vinovich was ref in 1st matchup of saints/rams. 6 accepted penalties combined for less than 65 yds. Road teams have been called for more penalties 8-6-2 when he was ref this season. His crew calls less than league average as you said. The only games his crew has called a lot of yds this season was giants vs wash shit show and the saints wk 17 exhibiton vs car.

powerz · Jan 18, 2019

[h=2]Officials[/h]

Official	Home Record (ATS)	Under Record	PPG
Bill Vinovich	38-44 (46.3% -7.95 units)	47-37 (56.0% 7.80 units)	44.9

powerz · Jan 18, 2019

kc game

[h=2]Officials[/h]

Official	Home Record (ATS)	Under Record	PPG
Clete Blakeman	63-71 (47.0% -10.32 units)	72-67 (51.8% 1.19 units)	45.8

bobbyjones2 · Jan 18, 2019

Referees are humans and have biases against players and or teams. Great find.

Loves2kickass · Jan 18, 2019

bobbyjones2 said:
Referees are humans and have biases against players and or teams. Great find.

Guess who the Pats/Chiefs ref is.....DEFLATE GATE.....lol

Biz · Jan 18, 2019

These stats are random.

There are streaks in randomness.

Serbone · Jan 18, 2019

Biz said:
These stats are random.

There are streaks in randomness.

agree

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